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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4625 on: September 15, 2020, 02:48:27 PM »

Along the same lines as above, this is a full stop sign that is required not to stop for cross traffic, but to come to a complete stop to ensure that you will then downshift and ride as slow as possible.  This is a STEEP downhill.  Loma Vista Dr Beverly Hills, CA

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1084934,-118.3921293,3a,75y,179.16h,85.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sB7NQ3enikApC5uZWJxOkwQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Not a mistake.  But a rare example of a stop sign without a cross street.
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4626 on: September 15, 2020, 02:56:16 PM »

Along the same lines as above, this is a full stop sign that is required not to stop for cross traffic, but to come to a complete stop to ensure that you will then downshift and ride as slow as possible.  This is a STEEP downhill.  Loma Vista Dr Beverly Hills, CA

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1084934,-118.3921293,3a,75y,179.16h,85.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sB7NQ3enikApC5uZWJxOkwQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Not a mistake.  But a rare example of a stop sign without a cross street.

That's a wicked downhill stretch there. I have never seen a residential street with a runaway truck ramp.
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4627 on: September 15, 2020, 04:58:32 PM »

Along the same lines as above, this is a full stop sign that is required not to stop for cross traffic, but to come to a complete stop to ensure that you will then downshift and ride as slow as possible.  This is a STEEP downhill.  Loma Vista Dr Beverly Hills, CA

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1084934,-118.3921293,3a,75y,179.16h,85.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sB7NQ3enikApC5uZWJxOkwQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Not a mistake.  But a rare example of a stop sign without a cross street.

That's a wicked downhill stretch there. I have never seen a residential street with a runaway truck ramp.

The street gets a lot more traffic than you would think, because there are so few connections between Mullholland Drive and Sunset.  There are a handful of major ones like the freeways, Laurel Canyon, Coldwater Canyon, Beverly Glen.  If Coldwater Canyon gets busy, enough traffic makes a left onto Cherokee Ln that leads to Loma Vista as an alternate way to reach Sunset Blvd.

Given the downhill, the city believes that the best shot of people driving this stretch safely is if people start the downhill at the speed of 0 MPH (with a full stop).  Arguably, this stop sign is probably not needed any more as there is now a full stop and roundabout at Carla Ridge about 500 feet behind the stop sign at the crest of the hill.  [Don't know when that was put in, but I know it didn't exist when I explored the area in the 1990's.]
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4628 on: September 19, 2020, 11:10:25 PM »

Along the same lines as above, this is a full stop sign that is required not to stop for cross traffic, but to come to a complete stop to ensure that you will then downshift and ride as slow as possible.  This is a STEEP downhill.  Loma Vista Dr Beverly Hills, CA

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1084934,-118.3921293,3a,75y,179.16h,85.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sB7NQ3enikApC5uZWJxOkwQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Not a mistake.  But a rare example of a stop sign without a cross street.

14% grade?  :wow:
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4629 on: September 20, 2020, 09:40:06 PM »

On WB I-80 in Iowa, there are detour assemblies for a closure of the loop ramp to the unsigned Business 61 through Davenport.  Except these detour assemblies are missing the business banner, so the detour assemblies are conflicting with the signs for SB US 61 which continues along I-80 to I-280.
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4630 on: September 25, 2020, 01:54:37 PM »

I posted this over in the NJ thread, but it’s much more appropriate here.

This pic was taken at Airport Circle in Pennsauken. The incorrect sign is the street name blade. On Armistice Day (Nov 11) in 1929, the boulevard to the Ben Franklin Bridge was renamed from Bridge Boulevard to Admiral Wilson Boulevard to commemorate a Camden native and WWI naval hero.

Except that they forgot to make it official. Fine, in 1937, they finally codified the name change with an official ordinance.

This sign was installed LONG after either of these events, so not entirely sure what the heck happened here.




Source of historical info: DVRBS.com, (c)2014, Phillip Cohen. Site’s a bit of a mess, but he’s got a ton of fascinating info on Camden area history.
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4631 on: October 03, 2020, 10:03:59 PM »

Oops!

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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4632 on: October 03, 2020, 10:48:29 PM »

Oops!


Washington still going strong on Botts' dots, eh?
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4633 on: October 04, 2020, 12:57:13 AM »

Oops!



Reminds me of when someone from IDOT installed a Left Turn Only sign for a Right Turn Only lane. High quality workmanship indeed.
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4634 on: October 04, 2020, 02:34:41 AM »

Washington still going strong on Botts' dots, eh?

Just a couple cities, but yes they're still regularly installed.
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4635 on: October 04, 2020, 10:21:12 AM »

I'm not sure which one is right, but one of these two signs has to be wrong because they designate the same road with two different suffixes.

"North Point Drive"

"UCSD Northpoint Drwy"
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4636 on: October 05, 2020, 10:41:11 AM »

Marshall Street EB (SH154) @ US 271 Gilmer TX.  Really messed up sign. SH154 Should have a straight arrow. Note the big green sign on 271SB that shows 154 crossing both ways.

There is too much on that single masthead even if the signage were right.

The signs on GSV not the current ones. I have a photo, but can't post it.
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4637 on: October 06, 2020, 10:12:47 PM »

Oregon's shields are supposed to have the wide part of the shield at least a little above the vertical midpoint, like a dog's nose.  The person who made this sign must be from New Jersey.

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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4638 on: October 07, 2020, 01:15:11 AM »

^^  Maybe it's the missing New Jersey Highway 99 from "Tweeter and the Monkey Man."
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4639 on: October 18, 2020, 12:24:26 AM »

A two-fer here.  The sign is upside down.  And besides, it is supposed to be white, rectangular and show a single forward arrow passing around a barrier.  This sign when oriented properly is supposed to show a divided highway ahead.

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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4640 on: October 18, 2020, 12:59:44 PM »



Should be US 62
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4641 on: October 18, 2020, 02:24:14 PM »

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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4642 on: October 18, 2020, 05:58:37 PM »

It looks like they fixed it when the route changed from I-540 to I-49.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0550595,-94.196223,3a,75y,167.9h,95.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_RP40f6e5r_ZwI3oAhEK2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Didn't stop them from changing those over-sized banners though.
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4643 on: October 20, 2020, 06:54:54 AM »

This wasn't erroneous before, but now it is: https://goo.gl/maps/kkf8qiqKqsGz36UQ9 .  Funny how that works.
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4644 on: October 20, 2020, 11:50:37 AM »

This wasn't erroneous before, but now it is: https://goo.gl/maps/kkf8qiqKqsGz36UQ9 .  Funny how that works.

You could make the argument it was also initially erroneous, due to that left-turn lane there.
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« Reply #4645 on: October 20, 2020, 11:56:09 AM »

This wasn't erroneous before, but now it is: https://goo.gl/maps/kkf8qiqKqsGz36UQ9 .  Funny how that works.

You could make the argument it was also initially erroneous, due to that left-turn lane there.

Maybe, but I think they just forgot to change the sign.  https://goo.gl/maps/AYWX3zkSZWHPAnM9A
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4646 on: October 20, 2020, 02:37:19 PM »

If I'm not mistaken, advanced intersection lane control signs (R3-8 series) can exclude lanes not on the side of the road that they are posted on.

For example, a one-way street with several lanes, but the sign only shows a right turn and an optional right/through movement.

According to MUTCD Chapter 2B, it would seem that lane control signs can be omitted when option lanes are not used; as long as dedicated turn bays are provided, they can be omitted. This could alternatively be implying that roads where a through lane becomes a turn lane do require them. I'm not sure what qualifies as a turn bay: any dedicated turn lane? Only those lanes where there is a "jog" to enter them?
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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4647 on: October 20, 2020, 04:18:40 PM »

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Re: Erroneous road signs
« Reply #4649 on: October 20, 2020, 09:29:12 PM »




Should be US 62

US/State mixup shield error signs

I was going to say the same thing... but honestly, it's whatever at this point. You find the right thread, good for you. If you don't, it is what it is. It's mildly annoying, but I'm not going to around policing what goes where anymore.
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