Illinois interesting bid annoucements

[SSOWorld]

[Max Rockatansky]

I don't see Wisconsin getting flat highway trophies, obviously it's because they are inferior. 

[kphoger]

Route 1 is mostly but not completely flat, but most of its hills are unexceptional.

[SkyPesos]

Not so fast. Here's a photo I took in Illinois. Doesn't look flat to me.



Checkmate.

Looks flat to me.

[Max Rockatansky]

Not so fast. Here's a photo I took in Illinois. Doesn't look flat to me.



Checkmate.

Looks flat to me.

You're only saying that because you are from Indiana.  That's almost as bad as being from Wisconsin.  I bet you aspire to be an Entenmann's delivery driver.

[SkyPesos]

You're only saying that because you are from Indiana.

Wrong state but ok

[Max Rockatansky]

You're only saying that because you are from Indiana.

Wrong state but ok

If you from ain't Illinois then you're the enemy.  Haven't you figured out how it works from Crash yet?

[TheHighwayMan3561]

You're only saying that because you are from Indiana.

Wrong state but ok

If you from ain't Illinois then you're the enemy.  Haven't you figured out how it works from Crash yet?

Deniers are either from Wisconsin, or Entenmann's truck drivers with an axe to grind.

[JoePCool14]

You're only saying that because you are from Indiana.

Wrong state but ok

If you from ain't Illinois then you're the enemy.  Haven't you figured out how it works from Crash yet?

I am from Illinois and I'm pretty sure I'm still the enemy.

[Max Rockatansky]

You're only saying that because you are from Indiana.

Wrong state but ok

If you from ain't Illinois then you're the enemy.  Haven't you figured out how it works from Crash yet?

Deniers are either from Wisconsin, or Entenmann's truck drivers with an axe to grind.

Three years is a long time to wait for vengeance. 

[paulthemapguy]

Three years is a long time to wait for vengeance.

I think you just found the tagline for the action flick written about his life.

COMING THIS FRIDAY...
THREE YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO WAIT FOR VENGEANCE

[Max Rockatansky]

Three years is a long time to wait for vengeance.

I think you just found the tagline for the action flick written about his life.

COMING THIS FRIDAY...
THREE YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO WAIT FOR VENGEANCE

In a state where everything is flat, one man stands alone against the onslaught of Wisconsinites and Entenmann's drivers...

"The dash cam makes everything look further away than it is..."

ILLINOIS IS FLAT

Coming to movie theaters only May 6th, 2022.

THREE YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO WAIT FOR VENGEANCE

[Crash_It]

Crash is still trying to say that IDOT is somehow superior in their "Construction tactics", "Transportation tactics" and "rehabbing surfaces"? This old tripe needs to go.
For every deficiency Crash comes up with in Wisconsin, I can come up with one in Illinois. It's not that difficult.

For example, IMHO, Wisconsin does a much better job of signing state highway to state highway junctions for the general public. I don't have to guess what direction a road is heading.

I've never been confused at any junction in IL.

[Crash_It]

I enjoy my time driving in Wisconsin significantly more than in Illinois ... less signal slap-happy than Illinois ...

The signal lights are timed better in Illinois than Wisconsin.

I'll take fewer stoplights over better-timed stoplights any day.  And Illinois is definitely signal slap-happy.

WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP

[Max Rockatansky]

Crash is still trying to say that IDOT is somehow superior in their "Construction tactics", "Transportation tactics" and "rehabbing surfaces"? This old tripe needs to go.
For every deficiency Crash comes up with in Wisconsin, I can come up with one in Illinois. It's not that difficult.

For example, IMHO, Wisconsin does a much better job of signing state highway to state highway junctions for the general public. I don't have to guess what direction a road is heading.

I've never been confused at any junction in IL.

How can you be confused with all that featureless flatness?  You can see Entenmann's delivery trucks coming from miles away. 

[TheHighwayMan3561]

WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP

You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.

[Max Rockatansky]

WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP

You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.

To add to that, I've found Chicago's freeway network to have the worst traffic jams in the country.  When I lived in downtown I found it easier to use surface streets (stop lights included) to get anywhere in the city the majority of daylight hours.  Everyone pretty much dog piles onto the antiquated and overburdened free expressways.

[edwaleni]

WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP

You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.

To add to that, I've found Chicago's freeway network to have the worst traffic jams in the country.  When I lived in downtown I found it easier to use surface streets (stop lights included) to get anywhere in the city the majority of daylight hours.  Everyone pretty much dog piles onto the antiquated and overburdened free expressways.

I found the opposite in Atlanta. Why? Because there wasn't an easy grid style local street system to get around the mess on the expressways.

In fact in my last Atlanta backup, it came to a complete halt and everyone got out of their cars and started talking to each other.

As for Chicago? Yes, I can't tell you how many times I would get off at Western and use Roosevelt instead of the Ike. It got so bad for awhile I was on a first name basis with Jennifer Keiper @ WBBM Traffic.

She went to Fox News Radio for awhile and is now a staff reporter for CBS News.

[Crash_It]

WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP

You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.

Says the person from a state that also has traffic backups in it's major cities as well (experienced that first hand last summer).  Milwaukee has traffic backup as well too and that's also with 41/894 in bad condition. Guess you haven't seen the progress of the Jane Byrne interchange. When it's completed this fall, it'll relieve most of if not all of the congestion.

[SEWIGuy]

WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP

You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.

Says the person from a state that also has traffic backups in it's major cities as well (experienced that first hand last summer).  Milwaukee has traffic backup as well too and that's also with 41/894 in bad condition. Guess you haven't seen the progress of the Jane Byrne interchange. When it's completed this fall, it'll relieve most of if not all of the congestion.

I have travelled during rush hour in both cities pretty extensively.  Milwaukee's are mild and a short length of time.  Chicago's are awful.  LA was worse however.

[Max Rockatansky]

WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP

You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.

Says the person from a state that also has traffic backups in it's major cities as well (experienced that first hand last summer).  Milwaukee has traffic backup as well too and that's also with 41/894 in bad condition. Guess you haven't seen the progress of the Jane Byrne interchange. When it's completed this fall, it'll relieve most of if not all of the congestion.

I have travelled during rush hour in both cities pretty extensively.  Milwaukee's are mild and a short length of time.  Chicago's are awful.  LA was worse however.

The problem Los Angeles has over longer developed cities like Chicago is distance of travel.  In Chicago even places like O'Hate aren't exactly "far"  by West Coast city standards to downtown.  I-405 as example is 72 miles long, it can be a really long haul to get anywhere even if the traffic is just the "slow down"  variety.  FWIW I feel as though the San Francisco Bay Area is a closer analog to Chicagoland.  The Bay Area is compact and doesn't have a ton of options for limited access roadways much like Chicago.  Surface road travel over San Francisco Bay just isn't a thing.

[JoePCool14]

Guess you haven't seen the progress of the Jane Byrne interchange. When it's completed this fall, it'll relieve most of if not all of the congestion.

What do we all get if you're wrong?

[Max Rockatansky]

Guess you haven't seen the progress of the Jane Byrne interchange. When it's completed this fall, it'll relieve most of if not all of the congestion.

What do we all get if you're wrong?

A box of Entenmann's from the display case at the end of the aisle.

[Brandon]

WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP

You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.

Says the person from a state that also has traffic backups in it's major cities as well (experienced that first hand last summer).  Milwaukee has traffic backup as well too and that's also with 41/894 in bad condition. Guess you haven't seen the progress of the Jane Byrne interchange. When it's completed this fall, it'll relieve most of if not all of the congestion.

Like hell it will.  The Circle has sucked, sucked, and will suck even with the rebuild.  Funny that you call I-894 in bad condition when I saw multiple vehicles with flat tires due to potholes on the shoulder of I-55 between Weber and US-30 Friday evening.  I-894 is damn smooth compared to that POS.

[kphoger]

I saw multiple vehicles with flat tires due to potholes on the shoulder of I-55 between Weber and US-30 Friday evening.

Those flats were actually due to overinflation.