US 9, person says it was an interstate highway

[Jim]

Is there some legal technicality that says US 9 does not cross between NY and NJ on the GWB?

[akotchi]

If you've lived in New Jersey, you'd know that what defines it is being between other places.  In keeping with that theme, it has a whole system of in-between routes that straddle caregories, like Interstate US 9.  NJ Route 27, for example, is not a NJ state route at all but rather a joint part of the New York and Pennsylvania systems.  Bergen County 503 is both an eight-lane tolled facility and bank drive-thru lane. 

US NJ 122
US NJ 173
NJ US 1, 9, 9W, 22, 30, 40, 46, 202, 206 - I've found all but 322
PA NJ 183
NJ I-80

Don't forget US NJ 140.

[Kacie Jane]

Is there some legal technicality that says US 9 does not cross between NY and NJ on the GWB?

Methinks roadman merely forgot there was another state line in play as well. (Although, personally I think it's a silly distinction to make if you're going to say it doesn't cross the Delaware line because the ferry isn't technically part of the route.  Also, why wouldn't the ferry be considered part of the route?)

[NJRoadfan]

Don't forget US NJ-495 either. Spotted that one the other day.

[Pete from Boston]

Is there some legal technicality that says US 9 does not cross between NY and NJ on the GWB?

Sort of.  US 1 and I-95 cross on the roadway, while 9 travels up the bridge cables and over the towers.  So it's there, but you can't really drive it.

[agentsteel53]

Don't forget US NJ-495 either. Spotted that one the other day.

wrong.  you're just bringing in Alanland shit into this thread.

[roadman65]

Be serious now.  I did not say that US 9 did not go between the states completely.  I only merely pointed out that it does not by way of pavement and just like one post said the US 9 is an interstate even though its not, the same point I was trying to make.

It is a three state route, and whether it crosses the border or not on a road or suggestively: who cares?  It is like there are two ways  to say tomato, do we go around correcting people when they say it differently than what we say individually?  I think not!

[agentsteel53]

whether it crosses the border or not on a road or suggestively: who cares? 

before I decide whether or not I care, I would like a visual demonstration of the "suggestively" alternative.

[Kacie Jane]

Be serious now.  I did not say that US 9 did not go between the states completely.  I only merely pointed out that it does not by way of pavement and just like one post said the US 9 is an interstate even though its not, the same point I was trying to make.

But it does into New York.  So even if you're trying to say it doesn't cross into Delaware, it would still be interstate.

[Alps]

Don't forget US NJ-495 either. Spotted that one the other day.

Whereeeeeeee

[NJRoadfan]

Whereeeeeeee

http://goo.gl/maps/1zD9n

[Zeffy]

Whereeeeeeee

http://goo.gl/maps/1zD9n

That entire assembly is ugly. That font reminds me of Calibri.

[agentsteel53]

Don't forget US NJ 140.

US NJ 30



re: the 495.  holy puke.

[Kacie Jane]

Don't forget US NJ 140.

US NJ 30

No no, that's NJ US 30, already accounted for in Steve's first post.

[agentsteel53]

DE NJ US 40

[Alps]

Whereeeeeeee

http://goo.gl/maps/1zD9n

And you'd think I'd have noticed that by now. It's entirely possible I did, and took a photo, and completely forgot.

[akotchi]

Whereeeeeeee

http://goo.gl/maps/1zD9n

And you'd think I'd have noticed that by now. It's entirely possible I did, and took a photo, and completely forgot.

I was just up there this morning -- the assembly is no longer there.  Though the street image linked was dated January 2013, so this must have come down recently.

[hotdogPi]

MA 62 has a few strange things:

First, it's 80 miles long (very long for Massachusetts) and still not that important.

However:

It's an east-west route, but if you get off MA 128 at exit 22 in Danvers, you will see either "north" or "south", depending on which direction you go on 62.

On MA 114 West, MA 62 looks like NJ 62 for one of the signs.

There is also a broken sign that just has a direction on it, I believe "East". The 62 somehow isn't there.

[PHLBOS]

It's an east-west route, but if you get off MA 128 at exit 22 in Danvers, you will see either "north" or "south", depending on which direction you go on 62.

That interchange was recently re-configured and re-signed.  Those NORTH/SOUTH signs (are these on the LGS 'paddles' or trailblazer/reassurance signs?) are likely a design, fabricator or contractor mistake.

On MA 114 West, MA 62 looks like NJ 62 for one of the signs.

If memory serves that sign along with the LGS' were installed sometime in the 1980s.  Chances are, in that situation, the designer chose the generic MUTCD state highway shield rather than the Mass square/rectangle or it was another contractor/fabricator error.

There is also a broken sign that just has a direction on it, I believe "East". The 62 somehow isn't there.

Most likely a random act of theft/vandalism.

[jeffandnicole]

If you've lived in New Jersey, you'd know that what defines it is being between other places.  In keeping with that theme, it has a whole system of in-between routes that straddle caregories, like Interstate US 9.  NJ Route 27, for example, is not a NJ state route at all but rather a joint part of the New York and Pennsylvania systems.  Bergen County 503 is both an eight-lane tolled facility and bank drive-thru lane. 

US NJ 122
US NJ 173
NJ US 1, 9, 9W, 22, 30, 40, 46, 202, 206 - I've found all but 322
PA NJ 183
NJ I-80

Here's a County US 322:





This is signage for a detour of the old US 322 in Mullica Hill, NJ. US 322 was bypassed, and the new routing was signed US 322 (probably never officially done properly though thru the feds).  The old road was never assigned any route number, as far as I know.  The road is now closed for a dam reconstruction project, so this appears to be the resulting signage.  It should be known that, with a few exceptions, county routes are only 5xx, 6xx & 7xx.  Definitely not 322. And I haven't seen County 322 signage on the actual route itself.

(Edited to fix knows to known)

[Alps]

If you've lived in New Jersey, you'd know that what defines it is being between other places.  In keeping with that theme, it has a whole system of in-between routes that straddle caregories, like Interstate US 9.  NJ Route 27, for example, is not a NJ state route at all but rather a joint part of the New York and Pennsylvania systems.  Bergen County 503 is both an eight-lane tolled facility and bank drive-thru lane. 

US NJ 122
US NJ 173
NJ US 1, 9, 9W, 22, 30, 40, 46, 202, 206 - I've found all but 322
PA NJ 183
NJ I-80

Here's a County US 322:





This is signage for a detour of the old US 322 in Mullica Hill, NJ. US 322 was bypassed, and the new routing was signed US 322 (probably never officially done properly though thru the feds).  The old road was never assigned any route number, as far as I know.  The road is now closed for a dam reconstruction project, so this appears to be the resulting signage.  It should be knows that, with a few exceptions, county routes are only 5xx, 6xx & 7xx.  Definitely not 322. And I haven't seen County 322 signage on the actual route itself.

Ho.
Lee.
Crap.
I have NEVER seen a county/US mistake before. Congrats.
EDIT: Okay, I'm not sure WHAT this is. I highly doubt CR 322 is a thing.

[MrDisco99]

Maybe they were referring to the section between Croton and Peekskill, which, if I remember right, may have originally been built to be part of I-87, before it was signed on the Thruway instead.


EDIT: OK it was actually for a proposed I-487 which never happened...

http://www.nycroads.com/roads/croton/

[NE2]

Maybe they were referring to the section between Croton and Peekskill, which, if I remember right, may have originally been built to be part of I-87, before it was routed on the Thruway instead.

The Hudson River Expressway between I-287 and I-84 was in fact planned as I-87 until the early 1960s, when I-87 was moved east to current I-684 and the HRE was renumbered I-487. I-87 was moved to the Thruway south of I-84 in 1970.

This was of course in New Jersey per the original post.

[Mr. Matté]

Switching back to CR 322, in a bizarre way, it is technically correct to call that road a county route; it is maintained by them per this and this.

[SteveG1988]

Switching back to CR 322, in a bizarre way, it is technically correct to call that road a county route; it is maintained by them per this and this.

I agree, that actually makes a lot of sense to label it as 322, if it wasn't right next to 322...Do it like the state labels old 322 for the ferry, increase the number by 2, CR 324