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Re: Tennessee
« Reply #300 on: August 14, 2016, 12:13:06 PM »

Tennessee Adds New 77 Miles of Highway to Interstate System

TDOT sent out a news bulletin on August 12, 2016 officially designating the entire stretch of SR 840 as I-840. Signage will start being put in place next week and should be complete by the end of the year.

I didn't see this anywhere on the forum as I skimmed through four pages of unread posts (just returned from a mega road trip out west) so I thought I'd share it here. If it's been posted elsewhere already, then ignore this post :-P
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Re: Tennessee
« Reply #301 on: August 14, 2016, 12:46:27 PM »

Tennessee Adds New 77 Miles of Highway to Interstate System

TDOT sent out a news bulletin on August 12, 2016 officially designating the entire stretch of SR 840 as I-840. Signage will start being put in place next week and should be complete by the end of the year.

I didn't see this anywhere on the forum as I skimmed through four pages of unread posts (just returned from a mega road trip out west) so I thought I'd share it here. If it's been posted elsewhere already, then ignore this post :-P

This is the first I'd heard of it. Hopefully while they're up there they can add "Memphis" where it's supposed to be.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8808893,-86.4719136,3a,27.8y,315.73h,95.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-mYDhDuD3sJ1whadyCIbxg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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Re: Tennessee
« Reply #302 on: August 14, 2016, 03:42:05 PM »

Tennessee Adds New 77 Miles of Highway to Interstate System

TDOT sent out a news bulletin on August 12, 2016 officially designating the entire stretch of SR 840 as I-840. Signage will start being put in place next week and should be complete by the end of the year.

I didn't see this anywhere on the forum as I skimmed through four pages of unread posts (just returned from a mega road trip out west) so I thought I'd share it here. If it's been posted elsewhere already, then ignore this post :-P

I posted yesterday on the AASHTO 2015 thread, but should have added here as well.  All of the 840 BGS signs along I-24, I-40, I-65, US41/70S (and others, I'm sure) need to have all of their control cities adjusted to Memphis/Dickson (west) and Knoxville/Lebanon (east).  The attached is what I believe is the worst example of the control cities on an 840 BGS https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8991882,-86.4457108,3a,75y,327.54h,87.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX7cnS5JeqBVnMCAfVM3maA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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Re: Tennessee
« Reply #303 on: August 15, 2016, 03:27:41 AM »

Huh, I took TN 840 when I went up to Kentucky a few days ago. Didn't see any new interstate shields, though.
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« Reply #304 on: August 15, 2016, 09:42:41 AM »

Somewhat surprised that TDOT waited this long to make the announcement.  FHWA and AASHTO signed off on it last year.
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Re: Tennessee
« Reply #305 on: August 15, 2016, 11:41:50 AM »

Huh, I took TN 840 when I went up to Kentucky a few days ago. Didn't see any new interstate shields, though.

I think the sign replacements are supposed to start this week.
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« Reply #306 on: August 15, 2016, 11:49:17 AM »

Well, I'm not the least bit surprised by this! Now to make VA 895 into I-895...
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« Reply #307 on: August 15, 2016, 12:27:31 PM »

Great now there will a large traffic count.
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Re: Tennessee
« Reply #308 on: August 15, 2016, 02:55:01 PM »

Huh, I took TN 840 when I went up to Kentucky a few days ago. Didn't see any new interstate shields, though.

I think the sign replacements are supposed to start this week.
Glad I got photos of some of the TN 840 shields when I did then.
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« Reply #309 on: August 15, 2016, 03:19:06 PM »

Well, I'm not the least bit surprised by this! Now to make VA 895 into I-895...

Good luck with that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_State_Route_895

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The road was originally planned as Interstate 895. However, in January 2002, when the Virginia Department of Transportation sought the Interstate designation from the Federal Highway Administration, it was informed that the expressway was not qualified for such a designation, as federal statute 23 USC 129(a)(1)(A) provides that federal funds may not be used for a tolled Interstate. Thus, toll roads using no federal funds and free roads of any funding source are eligible for Interstate designation, but toll roads that use federal funds are not. In this case, $9.28 million of the preliminary engineering (out of a total $324 million cost) was funded by the federal government, and the project ultimately opened as a toll road, disqualifying the road as a bearer of an Interstate shield.

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Re: Tennessee
« Reply #310 on: August 17, 2016, 07:11:15 PM »

Tennessee Adds New 77 Miles of Highway to Interstate System

TDOT sent out a news bulletin on August 12, 2016 officially designating the entire stretch of SR 840 as I-840. Signage will start being put in place next week and should be complete by the end of the year.

I didn't see this anywhere on the forum as I skimmed through four pages of unread posts (just returned from a mega road trip out west) so I thought I'd share it here. If it's been posted elsewhere already, then ignore this post :-P

Good for Tennessee. I wish some other states had some more foresight in numbering their urban highways.
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« Reply #311 on: August 17, 2016, 08:33:38 PM »

There goes my hard earned tax dollars wasted on changing a bunch of signs that don't need to be changed.
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Re: Tennessee
« Reply #312 on: August 17, 2016, 08:56:55 PM »

Yes, TDOT could have installed a couple of sets of traffic signals for that much money instead. The horror, the waste.

Not to mention that the signs on 840 east of I-24 are two decades old at this point. They're probably due for replacement anyway.

If you want to complain about waste, complain that TDOT spent 100% state funds to construct the route rather than utilizing federal matching funds in the hope that it would get them out of doing environmental paperwork that they ended up having to do anyway when they got sued, blowing probably $500+ million that could have been leveraged with federal funds elsewhere. West Tennessee might have gotten 385 done a decade earlier or East Tennessee might have gotten 475 actually built instead.
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Re: Tennessee
« Reply #313 on: August 19, 2016, 02:36:52 PM »


If you want to complain about waste, complain that TDOT spent 100% state funds to construct the route rather than utilizing federal matching funds in the hope that it would get them out of doing environmental paperwork that they ended up having to do anyway when they got sued, blowing probably $500+ million that could have been leveraged with federal funds elsewhere. West Tennessee might have gotten 385 done a decade earlier or East Tennessee might have gotten 475 actually built instead.

It was pointed out years ago on MTR that Tennessee used state funds to build US 23 (now I-26) from the Erwin area up to the NC state line at Sams Gap to keep from having to do federally-required environmental work, despite the road being eligible for federal funding since it was an ARC corridor (Corridor B). That may have forced North Carolina's hand to finish its section of the route between the state line and Mars Hill, since Tennessee already had the freeway done.
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Re: Tennessee
« Reply #314 on: August 19, 2016, 08:58:03 PM »

I-840 neutered shields are at some entrance ramp areas -- noticed at exit 47 (Almaville Rd) and exit 34 (Peytonsville Rd).  None at exit 50 (Veterans Pkwy) or at exit 42 (US31A/41A).
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Re: Tennessee
« Reply #315 on: August 21, 2016, 01:24:16 PM »

Last Friday I didn't see any I-840 shields in the Murfreesboro area.
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« Reply #316 on: August 25, 2016, 05:34:01 PM »

Got I-840 added to Google Maps.
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« Reply #317 on: August 26, 2016, 09:27:16 AM »

No I-840 shields as of this morning along the junction with I-65.  I was on I-65 and all of the BGS have the SR 840 shields.
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Re: Tennessee
« Reply #318 on: August 29, 2016, 08:36:27 AM »

No I-840 shields as of this morning along the junction with I-65.  I was on I-65 and all of the BGS have the SR 840 shields.

Jeff R reported that only stand alone shields are posted for I-840 so far. All guide signs remain the same for now.

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Re: Tennessee
« Reply #319 on: August 30, 2016, 03:13:03 PM »


It was pointed out years ago on MTR that Tennessee used state funds to build US 23 (now I-26) from the Erwin area up to the NC state line at Sams Gap to keep from having to do federally-required environmental work, despite the road being eligible for federal funding since it was an ARC corridor (Corridor B).

What a bizarre decision to refuse federal reimbursement.  Can't remember if Appalachian funds were 100% at the moment.
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« Reply #320 on: August 30, 2016, 06:09:52 PM »

I really don't like it when they make a future Interstate a state highway first. I personally believe if they are going to make a road an Interstate, it should be an Interstate from the moment its built or designated.
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« Reply #321 on: August 30, 2016, 07:27:45 PM »


It was pointed out years ago on MTR that Tennessee used state funds to build US 23 (now I-26) from the Erwin area up to the NC state line at Sams Gap to keep from having to do federally-required environmental work, despite the road being eligible for federal funding since it was an ARC corridor (Corridor B).

What a bizarre decision to refuse federal reimbursement.  Can't remember if Appalachian funds were 100% at the moment.

I doubt it.  It was completed back in the mid-1990's.
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« Reply #322 on: August 31, 2016, 01:54:29 PM »

John Lansford was the one who made that statement. Of course he always criticized Tennessee for their design of the highway. He never met a neighboring DOT that he didn't hate.  :-D
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Re: Tennessee
« Reply #323 on: August 31, 2016, 03:54:20 PM »


It was pointed out years ago on MTR that Tennessee used state funds to build US 23 (now I-26) from the Erwin area up to the NC state line at Sams Gap to keep from having to do federally-required environmental work, despite the road being eligible for federal funding since it was an ARC corridor (Corridor B).

What a bizarre decision to refuse federal reimbursement.  Can't remember if Appalachian funds were 100% at the moment.

I doubt it.  It was completed back in the mid-1990's.


Yeah, just looked it up.  ADHS funding wasn't 100% until 2012.
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« Reply #324 on: September 25, 2016, 11:45:55 AM »

SR 7 has just been realigned in Columbia.  It now no longer continues south of US 43/ US 412.  It now exits the current roadway runs east to end at US 31 along US 43.
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