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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4850 on: June 24, 2022, 01:49:18 PM »

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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4851 on: June 24, 2022, 02:01:38 PM »

I'm surprised they haven't thrown meters on the ramps along I-77 in Charlotte south of downtown uptown yet. But then again I guess the pandemic got in the way, being that's the reason for the existing ones to be suspended
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4852 on: June 24, 2022, 05:23:21 PM »

I'm surprised they haven't thrown meters on the ramps along I-77 in Charlotte south of downtown uptown yet. But then again I guess the pandemic got in the way, being that's the reason for the existing ones to be suspended

Honestly, the ramps along I-77 aren't the issue, there isn't that much traffic coming on/off the ramps during rush hour. The reality is that the traffic is coming/going to Ballantyne and South Carolina, so the traffic always begins/ends at the I-77/I-485 merger to Uptown.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4853 on: June 28, 2022, 02:38:44 PM »

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7994296,-78.1507002,14z/data=!5m1!1e1
What is up with Google signing US 264 as I-40 ALT?
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4854 on: June 28, 2022, 04:24:44 PM »

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7994296,-78.1507002,14z/data=!5m1!1e1
What is up with Google signing US 264 as I-40 ALT?

There are I-40 ALT detour signs for the I-40 construction south of Raleigh
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4855 on: June 28, 2022, 04:27:03 PM »

Lengthy detour I must admit.

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I did find signs in the field on it though. Taken in September 2020.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4856 on: June 28, 2022, 09:18:55 PM »

There are still ALT I-85 signs on US-64 from the construction years ago. They'll get around to removing them..... eventually. Also parts of NC-50 are signed as ALT I-40 too. Not a lengthy detour, but not the best of alternates being a 2 lane road in the area.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4857 on: June 28, 2022, 11:07:16 PM »

There are still ALT I-85 signs on US-64 from the construction years ago. They'll get around to removing them..... eventually. Also parts of NC-50 are signed as ALT I-40 too. Not a lengthy detour, but not the best of alternates being a 2 lane road in the area.
When I was coming back from Greenville about a year ago there was still an ALT I-85 sign on I-95 in Roanoke Rapids.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4858 on: June 29, 2022, 10:42:33 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/A3xVTF6LiAeEhi8Y6

Hope this anomaly goes away with the I-587 sign replacement.The shields and the guide contradict each other.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4859 on: June 29, 2022, 01:01:27 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/A3xVTF6LiAeEhi8Y6

Hope this anomaly goes away with the I-587 sign replacement.The shields and the guide contradict each other.

It's confusing, but they don't contradict.  US-258 is multiplexed with I-587 between Exit 63 (the one you posted) and Exit 66.  So if you get off on Exit 63 looking for northbound US-258 you'll simply get to the bottom of the offramp and find a trailblazer to go straight through to get back onto the freeway.  Indeed, the BGS for this exit should be marked for South US-258 and it would be even less confusing if there was a pull-thru BGS over the left lane for "East I-587" and "North US-258".  But alas, US-258 is a minor road in both North Carolina and Virginia (lesser status than most of the state routes intersecting it), and I doubt that such confusion will warrant a fix.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4860 on: June 29, 2022, 01:16:42 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/A3xVTF6LiAeEhi8Y6

Hope this anomaly goes away with the I-587 sign replacement.The shields and the guide contradict each other.

It's confusing, but they don't contradict.  US-258 is multiplexed with I-587 between Exit 63 (the one you posted) and Exit 66.  So if you get off on Exit 63 looking for northbound US-258 you'll simply get to the bottom of the offramp and find a trailblazer to go straight through to get back onto the freeway.  Indeed, the BGS for this exit should be marked for South US-258 and it would be even less confusing if there was a pull-thru BGS over the left lane for "East I-587" and "North US-258".  But alas, US-258 is a minor road in both North Carolina and Virginia (lesser status than most of the state routes intersecting it), and I doubt that such confusion will warrant a fix.

The BGS is older than when US 258 was placed on now-I-587 around Farmville in late 2009.  North Carolina often will not replace a BGS solely for routing changes like that and opt to wait for normal lifespan replacement.  They could do an interim fix and add a 3rd posting with US 258 Business on it.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4861 on: June 29, 2022, 01:26:15 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/A3xVTF6LiAeEhi8Y6

Hope this anomaly goes away with the I-587 sign replacement.The shields and the guide contradict each other.

It's confusing, but they don't contradict.  US-258 is multiplexed with I-587 between Exit 63 (the one you posted) and Exit 66.  So if you get off on Exit 63 looking for northbound US-258 you'll simply get to the bottom of the offramp and find a trailblazer to go straight through to get back onto the freeway.  Indeed, the BGS for this exit should be marked for South US-258 and it would be even less confusing if there was a pull-thru BGS over the left lane for "East I-587" and "North US-258".  But alas, US-258 is a minor road in both North Carolina and Virginia (lesser status than most of the state routes intersecting it), and I doubt that such confusion will warrant a fix.


Youíre thinking like Indiana does in other roads beginning concurrency on freeways.

NCDOT still uses Nashville for US64 on I-95 instead of Raleigh due to when I-95 first opened there US 64 was only a freeway in Nash County and arterial the rest of the drive to the Capital.  Instead you get a cheap addition to the sign.

NCDOT seems very cheap for a state that wants interstates everywhere.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4862 on: July 02, 2022, 01:26:31 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/sTSMYb7X27V5Gv1x7
I was noticing that US 64 ALT from Rocky Mount to Williamston is signed with either the ALT or ALTERNATE banner instead of the A suffix like US 74 ALT in Asheville is signed.

Am I to assume that the inconsistency has to do with different governing districts as one likes the suffix while another likes the banner?   
https://goo.gl/maps/LQYGmEzTLoEKtJ5A7
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4863 on: July 02, 2022, 09:56:10 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/sTSMYb7X27V5Gv1x7
I was noticing that US 64 ALT from Rocky Mount to Williamston is signed with either the ALT or ALTERNATE banner instead of the A suffix like US 74 ALT in Asheville is signed.

Am I to assume that the inconsistency has to do with different governing districts as one likes the suffix while another likes the banner?   
https://goo.gl/maps/LQYGmEzTLoEKtJ5A7

Possibly. The suffix version was the original standard for North Carolina and you will see that version all over the state, while the banner version appears most common in eastern North Carolina. Currently, there are 15 alternate routes in the state, eight of which are suffixed and seven of which are bannered.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4864 on: July 02, 2022, 11:18:34 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/sTSMYb7X27V5Gv1x7
I was noticing that US 64 ALT from Rocky Mount to Williamston is signed with either the ALT or ALTERNATE banner instead of the A suffix like US 74 ALT in Asheville is signed.

Am I to assume that the inconsistency has to do with different governing districts as one likes the suffix while another likes the banner?   
https://goo.gl/maps/LQYGmEzTLoEKtJ5A7

Possibly. The suffix version was the original standard for North Carolina and you will see that version all over the state, while the banner version appears most common in eastern North Carolina. Currently, there are 15 alternate routes in the state, eight of which are suffixed and seven of which are bannered.

Thought so. North of Raleigh, US 1 has a US 1A and the Pine Level alternate of US 70:is suffixed. 

I always remembered as a kid seeing A suffixed in NC and bannered in SC.   So it would make even more sense  if they were phasing out A suffixes, but US 74A in Western NC would then be ALT as it was created in the last thirty years .
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4865 on: July 03, 2022, 01:19:17 PM »

The Cape Fear Memorial Bridge, opened in 1969, is the iconic lifeblood of Wilmington, North Carolina.  It is also the biggest traffic headache and infrastructure concern of the growing southeastern North Carolina city.

While different proposals to replace or bypass are being considered, debated, rejected, and rejuvenated, the aging bridge carries over 60,000 vehicles a day and that number is growing.

A history of this unique bridge and a look at its future.

https://www.carolinaxroads.com/2022/07/cape-fear-memorial-bridge.html
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4866 on: July 05, 2022, 08:12:08 AM »

The Cape Fear Memorial Bridge, opened in 1969, is the iconic lifeblood of Wilmington, North Carolina.  It is also the biggest traffic headache and infrastructure concern of the growing southeastern North Carolina city.

While different proposals to replace or bypass are being considered, debated, rejected, and rejuvenated, the aging bridge carries over 60,000 vehicles a day and that number is growing.

A history of this unique bridge and a look at its future.

https://www.carolinaxroads.com/2022/07/cape-fear-memorial-bridge.html

You mean the bridge that was originally US 17, then not, and now US 17 again?  :bigass: :bigass:
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4867 on: July 07, 2022, 09:18:35 AM »

Oof, terrible news for people who take US 70/I-42 into Raleigh. Ramp merging onto I-40 will be closed for more than a year.


https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article263092168.html
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« Reply #4868 on: July 07, 2022, 09:24:49 AM »

Oof, terrible news for people who take US 70/I-42 into Raleigh. Ramp merging onto I-40 will be closed for more than a year.


https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article263092168.html
The ramp from US-70 westbound to I-40 eastbound (i.e. south towards I-95) will be closing, not the ramp onto I-40 west towards Raleigh.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4869 on: July 07, 2022, 12:46:13 PM »

Oof, terrible news for people who take US 70/I-42 into Raleigh. Ramp merging onto I-40 will be closed for more than a year.


https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article263092168.html
The ramp from US-70 westbound to I-40 eastbound (i.e. south towards I-95) will be closing, not the ramp onto I-40 west towards Raleigh.

Thanks for clearing it up. Still really bad for the people who live around JoCo tho.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4870 on: July 07, 2022, 02:07:43 PM »

Oof, terrible news for people who take US 70/I-42 into Raleigh. Ramp merging onto I-40 will be closed for more than a year.


https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article263092168.html
The ramp from US-70 westbound to I-40 eastbound (i.e. south towards I-95) will be closing, not the ramp onto I-40 west towards Raleigh.

Thanks for clearing it up. Still really bad for the people who live around JoCo tho.

Ultimately this will just clog up NC 42 even more than it already is.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4871 on: July 07, 2022, 02:38:16 PM »

What is the volume of traffic that uses that ramp pre-closure?
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4872 on: July 07, 2022, 08:26:59 PM »

What is the volume of traffic that uses that ramp pre-closure?

Per the traffic forecast diagram on the public hearing map, 1,750 ADT in 2016 (after splitting in half for both directions) and 2,100 estimated for the design year of 2040. The online AADT viewer shows 1,200 for the ramp in 2020. The AADT shapefiles from NCDOT have the ramp at 1,400 in 2019 and 1,200 in 2018.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4873 on: July 07, 2022, 08:46:00 PM »

Do other states have truck rollover advisory/warning signs on interstate mainlines, or is North Carolina special?

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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #4874 on: July 07, 2022, 11:04:32 PM »

What is the volume of traffic that uses that ramp pre-closure?

Per the traffic forecast diagram on the public hearing map, 1,750 ADT in 2016 (after splitting in half for both directions) and 2,100 estimated for the design year of 2040. The online AADT viewer shows 1,200 for the ramp in 2020. The AADT shapefiles from NCDOT have the ramp at 1,400 in 2019 and 1,200 in 2018.
That means peak hour volume of no more than 200, roughly. That should fit on back roads.

 


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