Redundant Street Names

[vtk]

South of the city limits in Traverse City, MI, the highway no longer uses "Division Street" for address purposes. Instead, it is "US 31 South" to contrast it with "US 31 East" on the other side of town. Depending on if a location is north or south of South Airport Road, street addresses are either "North US 31 South" or just "US 31 South".

That's messed up on a number of levels, IMO.

[ftballfan]

South of the city limits in Traverse City, MI, the highway no longer uses "Division Street" for address purposes. Instead, it is "US 31 South" to contrast it with "US 31 East" on the other side of town. Depending on if a location is north or south of South Airport Road, street addresses are either "North US 31 South" or just "US 31 South".

The north-south dividing line is actually Rennie School Rd, approximately 2.5 miles south of South Airport Rd.

[The Happy Hodag!]

The first street that came to mind was North Street in Appleton, WI, which is either East North Street or West North Street, depending on what side of Oneida Street you're on.

A true example of redundancy that I remember from my high school days was 5th Street Road near Antigo, WI, which is an offshoot of 5th Street in town.

-The Happy Hodag!

[bigboi00069]

Miami has a North River Drive (Both NW and SW) and a South River Drive (Both NW and SW). When it all gets abbreviated it looks quite redundant.

http://maps.google.com/?ll=25.777711,-80.203372&spn=0.00065,0.001204&t=h&z=20&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=25.777682,-80.203491&panoid=mqxPbjaSyt2UxRyh4i_d0g&cbp=12,254.4,,1,-5.81

[formulanone]

Miami-Dade has a lot of "Street Avenues", et al...which is completely redundant.

There's about 50 synonyms for road, couldn't decide on one for each direction?

[empirestate]

Bank Street Road, Batavia NY. And many other similar examples where city streets become county roads at the city limit, and the county names them in the same format. I don't think this is confined to Genesee County, either...

[BamaZeus]

yesterday we headed westbound on South Boulevard E. in Montgomery, so in effect we were going West on East South Boulevard, 3 directions at the same time

[Desert Man]

There are lots of streets and roads named "13", like 13th Place in L.A. where it meets Main Street and the local street gang "MS13" began their nationwide gang war from there. Today, through efforts of city leaders and local residents, the district was rechristened South L.A. no longer called South-Central (despite Central Ave. crosses there) and the section is renamed "Little Salvador" for the el Salvadoran community formed there in the 1980s/90s bordered by I-10/I-110 facing the USC campus and Staples Center. Nobody wants a number "13" on their neigbhorhood or be known solely for gangs and crime.

[roadman65]

Springfield Avenue in the Springfield, NJ area is used too much!
Post Merge: October 10, 2011, 10:47:12 PM
Boggy Creek Road in Kissimmee, FL is used too much.  At one point there are two Boggy Creek Roads that intersect.

Orange Blossom Trail could be considered redundant as it runs through Orange County along US 441 (changes briefly for Main Street in Apopka) then at Kissimmee it is Orange Blossom Trail in two places that are not directly linked except by number of route 17 & 92.  North of Kissimmee Orange Blossom Trail is US 17 & 92 as well as south of it, but through Kissimmee 17 & 92 changes alignments many times even before it was removed from Downtown Kissimmee.  Us road geeks do not, but others would consider it to be confusing.

[bigboi00069]

Kinda reminds me of how in North Miami Beach, FL, SR 826 AKA. NE 163 ST curves northward and becomes NE 167 ST. The 167 ST that existed where SR 826 was 163 ST intersects with SR 826 as 167th and results in the intersection of 167 ST and 167 ST.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=33162&hl=en&ll=25.928501,-80.182592&spn=0.001206,0.002411&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.808514,79.013672&vpsrc=6&hnear=Miami,+Florida+33162&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=25.928614,-80.182428&panoid=wr0NcT_oyIlSxmmFRrjX8A&cbp=12,276.26,,0,-4.06

And if memory serves me correctly, the arrows on the green street signs did not used to be there, making this intersection quite confusing.

[roadman65]

Broadway is redundant in the five boroughs of New York City.  Each borough has its own "Broadway" with Manhattan and The Bronx being the same one on US 9 that extends miles into neighboring Westchester County.  The other 4 are not connected nor run in a straight line from each other.

Smith Street is used a few times in Woodbridge, NJ as the different ones are in different zip codes with different section names.  Example: the Keasbey part of the township has the continuation of Perth Amboy's Smith Street signed as it, and the Avenel section has one located off US 1 & 9.  I believe Iselin (also part of Woodbridge) has one, but cannot be sure.

[InterstateNG]

Broadway is redundant in the five boroughs of New York City.  Each borough has its own "Broadway" with Manhattan and The Bronx being the same one on US 9 that extends miles into neighboring Westchester County.  The other 4 are not connected nor run in a straight line from each other.

That's not redundant.

[vtk]

Broadway is redundant in the five boroughs of New York City.  Each borough has its own "Broadway" with Manhattan and The Bronx being the same one on US 9 that extends miles into neighboring Westchester County.  The other 4 are not connected nor run in a straight line from each other.

That's not redundant.

Ambiguous, perhaps.

[national highway 1]

From Melbourne, Victoria...

High Street Rd is an eastern continuation of High St through the SE suburbs of Melbourne.

[apeman33]

The road leading to the new high school in Garden City, Kansas, (my hometown) has been christened "Buffalo Way Boulevard".

[Takumi]

Richmond has a few "(name) Street Road"s: Broad Street Road (US 250 in Goochland County; becomes Broad Street at the Henrico-Goochland line), Hull Street Road (US 360 in Chesterfield County and western Richmond; becomes Hull Street closer to Manchester's old downtown) and Cary Street Road (VA 147 between I-195 and Three Chopt Road, all within Richmond city limits). A non-roadgeek friend once joklingly commented on the latter that if it were longer it should be Cary Street Road Boulevard Highway.

[Brandon]

Surprised no one's brought up West Lane Road up near Rockford, IL.

[Kacie Jane]

On Page 1, I posted about Bellingham's E/W North Street.

There's also James Street Road and Yew Street Road.  For whatever reason, James Street and Yew Street gain an extra suffix when they leave the city limits.

[roadman65]

Colonial Drive in Ocoee, FL and Winter Garden, FL used to be WB. Bill McGee Highway years ago.  What is interesting is the Bill is nickname for the name William which is what the "W" stands for in the name.  It should have been just WB McGee Highway or just Bill McGee Highway.  Orange County, FL decided to make all of SR 50 through the Orlando area Colonial Drive so it would be uniform to avoid constant name changes like many places in my homestate of New Jersey with names changing at town lines and major streets.  So this redundant name use is something of the past, but still worth mentioning.

Sorry about the 5 Broadways as I misunderstood what the topic meant.

Oh, and Street Road in Bucks County, PA that is PA Route 132.

[kphoger]

I find it quite commonsense that a Street would change its name to Street Road upon leaving city limits.  The term Street typically refers only to an urban setting, so a name like 5th Street Road immediately makes me think that it's a rural road that leads to 5th Street, in exactly the same way that Herrin Road is a rural road that leads to the town of Herrin.

[roadman65]

I find it quite commonsense that a Street would change its name to Street Road upon leaving city limits.  The term Street typically refers only to an urban setting, so a name like 5th Street Road immediately makes me think that it's a rural road that leads to 5th Street, in exactly the same way that Herrin Road is a rural road that leads to the town of Herrin.

Morris County, NJ does it right with Sussex Turnpike.  When the roadway enters Morristown it becomes Sussex Avenue cause its no longer that suburban type of artery, but a city street.

Elizabeth, NJ has something similar with Jersey Street becoming Jersey Avenue on the west side of town.  Here its not a change of coporation but within the city limits. Then a short while later it becomes Third Avenue upon leaving Elizabeth.  No redundancy either.

I still often wonder why in New York there is a street just called Bowery with no Street, Avenue, Boulevard, etc.  No name at all.  I mean I see streets with the title "The" and no name, but its just plain "Bowery."

[empirestate]

The Bowery does take the definite article in common usage, even if not signed that way. It's a rare construction in the US (definite article + proper name), where we almost exclusively use proper name + designator (street/road/avenue etc.). It tends to give things an antique or old-world flair, though I'd wager that most current instances are newly fabricated just for that reason. The Bowery is one authentic example, at least.

[Ian]

One that I just remembered seeing a few weeks ago: Boulevard Avenue in Atlantic City, NJ.

[kphoger]

I always got a kick out of Chicago Avenue in Chicago.  Well, duh!!

[formulanone]

There's a State Road in West Branch, Michigan which is neither a state road nor a county-designed highway.