Left Turns on Red for two one way streets.

[roadman65]

I live in Florida, and our RTOR laws allow for LTOR in areas where two one way streets intersecting unless the NO TURN ON RED sign appears like right turns.
A perfect example would be on US 17 in Punta Gorda, FL at its southern terminus with US 41.  Both US 17 and US 41 are both one way pairs at their junction.  Southbound US 17 actually crosses NB US 41 two blocks before it finally ends at US 41 SB.  You can turn left from US 17 being its one way onto SB US 41 that is also a one way to the left after stop during the red orientation.

I know in my former state of New Jersey, that is not allowed.  First of all there are not many one way streets intersection each other.  Second, most of New Jersey is densely populated.  Plus, I do not think it ever crossed peoples minds just like the original left turn arrows that now serve as protected left turns were originally used to denote the only turns allowed at the intersection when it was one way leftward and no turns to the right.

How many other states allow the LTOR for the record?

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

I believe Ohio does (for circumstances like you provided).

[Takumi]

Pretty sure I've been able to in Richmond and Petersburg.

[The High Plains Traveler]

I'm thinkin' California was maybe the first to enact this law, before 1970, Since a right turn on red was a "California right turn", this makes sense. Colorado allows it - lots of opportunities in downtown Denver.

[NE2]

A left turn on red from a two-way onto a one-way is more interesting.

[InterstateNG]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_turn_on_red#Left_turn_on_red

[Brandon]

I know Michigan allows LTOR from one-way and two-way streets onto a one-way street.  Illinois, IIRC, is just for a one-way to a one-way.

[vdeane]

Upstate NY allows LTOR in this situation as well I believe.

[Kacie Jane]

A left turn on red from a two-way onto a one-way is more interesting.

As the Wikipedia article says, Washington allows LTOR onto a one-way street from both a one-way street and a two-way street.  In practice though, I think most drivers are unaware that the latter maneuver is legal.

[kphoger]

Illinois and Kansas:  Legal in both.

[PHLBOS]

Both MA & PA allow LTOR for 2 intersecting one-way streets; although not everybody knows it.  This gets particularly annoying at the mezzanine ramps along the I-476/US 1 interchange in Marple Twp (Delaware County) PA.  Even with a small channelized left-lane-turn ramp, hardly anybody moves when the light is red (there are NO No Turn On Red signs).

[xcellntbuy]

Upstate NY allows LTOR in this situation as well I believe.

Yes indeed.  They are not permitted in the City of New York.  Right turn on red is also prohibited in the City of New York unless a sign allows it, and from my long ago travels, their ain't many!

[vtk]

I believe Ohio does (for circumstances like you provided).

Digest of Ohio Motor Vehicle Laws says so.

[PurdueBill]

Indeed Ohio does allow it.  In Akron there are several places where if you are the lead car and don't make your left on red when it's safe to do so, you will likely hear a reminder from behind you even.  Akron posts No Turn On Red signs in certain places where there is no right turn possible, which undoubtedly baffles those unfamiliar with left on red.  For example, the end of one-way Cedar St. at one-way Broadway St. involves Cedar defaulting onto Broadway as a quadruple left-turn lane onto Broadway's four lanes.  Free left-on-red for all would be mayhem (and very few are turning from the far left lane), so No Turn On Red is posted at the left turn only situation.  Further south on Broadway St. is a similar pair of signs for one-way South St., thanks to the intertwined expressway interchange.  It is probably very odd for some folks not familiar with left on red to see No Right Turn and No Turn On Red posted together.

[realjd]

A better question would be: is there anywhere in the US outside of NYC where LTOR is not allowed?

[NE2]

A better question would be: is there anywhere in the US outside of NYC where LTOR is not allowed?

According to Wikipedia, yes, somewhere between 6 and 8 states (the numbers don't add up).

[vtk]

For example, the end of one-way Cedar St. at one-way Broadway St. involves Cedar defaulting onto Broadway as a quadruple left-turn lane onto Broadway's four lanes.  Free left-on-red for all would be mayhem (and very few are turning from the far left lane), so No Turn On Red is posted at the left turn only situation.

I would expect "no turn on red except curb lane" which seems to be unnecessarily posted at every instance of a multi-lane right turn, considering right (or left) turns on red can only legally be made from the right- (or left-) most lane anyway.

[Revive 755]

A better question would be: is there anywhere in the US outside of NYC where LTOR is not allowed?

Missouri, although I think there were a couple intersections in St. Joesph with "Left Turn on red after stop" signs or something similar.

[NE2]

I would expect "no turn on red except curb lane" which seems to be unnecessarily posted at every instance of a multi-lane right turn, considering right (or left) turns on red can only legally be made from the right- (or left-) most lane anyway.

It might be unnecessary where you are, but in Florida you can turn on red from any lane. (You can also turn on a red arrow.)

[roadman65]

A better question would be: is there anywhere in the US outside of NYC where LTOR is not allowed?

Obviously, living in New Jersey all my life has made me unaware of many practices that many states use.  For example, I thought nationwide that the driving age is 17, but later found out that New Jersey is one of few states that have that rule.  Many are 16, with NYC being 18 and from what I heard if you come from a state that has a lower age and drive in the 5 boroughs; NYPD will not honor the license either.

Anyway, I did not even realize that many states do have LTOR.  I did learn, also, that many are unaware that it exists in their state.  Probably, many who do know of it, do not encounter one way to one way on a regular basis and when they do, they forget about it.

[wytout]

Massachusetts allows it.  There is an intersection I frequent that you can make a left on red, at the intersection of Old Colony and Main Street in Hyannis.  West of The intersection main street is 1 way, east of the intersection main street is 2 way.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=main+street+hyannis&hl=en&ll=41.65431,-70.280468&spn=0.000676,0.001125&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=46.409192,73.740234&hnear=Main+St,+Barnstable,+Massachusetts+02601&t=h&z=20

[PurdueBill]

For example, the end of one-way Cedar St. at one-way Broadway St. involves Cedar defaulting onto Broadway as a quadruple left-turn lane onto Broadway's four lanes.  Free left-on-red for all would be mayhem (and very few are turning from the far left lane), so No Turn On Red is posted at the left turn only situation.

I would expect "no turn on red except curb lane" which seems to be unnecessarily posted at every instance of a multi-lane right turn, considering right (or left) turns on red can only legally be made from the right- (or left-) most lane anyway.

Because the far-left lane on Cedar would turn left into the left-turn lane for Exchange off of Broadway, heading back the opposite direction of Cedar, few actually turn left from the left lane of Cedar.  Most use the right two lanes to go left on Broadway, then right on Exchange to continue heading east.

"No turn on red except curb lane" is common but fortunately not always posted at right-on-red locations.  The Ohio Digest of Motor Vehicle laws mentions left on red being legal from the extreme left lane to the extreme left lane, but makes no mention of such a restriction for right on red.  Is that buried in the law but not shared in the digest?

[1995hoo]

A better question would be: is there anywhere in the US outside of NYC where LTOR is not allowed?

Off the top of my head I know DC and North Carolina don't allow it.

In practice I've found few people know it's allowed anywhere. I hate being stuck behind someone who won't do it when it's OK.

[empirestate]

Upstate NY allows LTOR in this situation as well I believe.

Everywhere in New York State, actually, including NYC where specifically permitted by signs. (Turns on red in either direction are prohibited citywide, but in accordance with this law, posted exceptions can be found for both.)

I have a handy iPhone app called State Lines, which summarizes state laws of various kinds, including this one.

A better question would be: is there anywhere in the US outside of NYC where LTOR is not allowed?

Yes: any other city in New York with a population of one million or greater. The same is true of right turns, of course, and it is this law that causes the blanket prohibition in NYC. There is, of course, no other city in the state currently meeting that population cutoff, but if Buffalo and Erie County were to somehow merge, for example, the law would then apply there as well. Such a city is then empowered to exclude itself from the law by local ordinance, but it hasn't happened yet, with NYC opting instead for posting specific exceptions.

Interestingly, the Town of Hempstead has about 3/4 million population, and might some day pass the million mark, but as it is not a city this law wouldn't apply. Neither would it apply in Staten Island were they to secede from the city, and it's in this borough, naturally, where most of the posted exceptions are found.

(See Title 7, Article 24, Section 1111 of the Vehicle & Traffic Code for the text.)

[Duke87]

Can't say I've ever made a left on red. Then again, how often do I find myself looking to make a left at a light from one one way street onto another outside of New York City? Very rare indeed.

Were I to find myself in such a circumstance I would do it if I had enough of a sight line to safely do so, without worrying about what the local law might actually be (it's usually legal).
Similarly, I will make a right on a red arrow if I can do so safely, regardless of local law (again, usually legal).

Except if there is a red light camera.... then I'm waiting for the light to turn green no matter what. Not interested in testing whether the camera is properly programmed.