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I-11 Study Site

Started by swbrotha100, October 16, 2012, 10:13:36 PM

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swbrotha100

I found this link when on the ADOT website. The first public meeting in Arizona for the proposed Interstate 11 is on October 23 in Phoenix.

http://i11study.com/wp/


NE2

Sweet, an Interstate through Area 51.
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ShawnP

Can't see the need for it north of Vegas.

mgk920

The only possible way that I can see it continuing is to feed it into I-580 at Carson City via US 95 most of the way and then continue beyond into California.  But then where?

Mike

NE2

Quote from: mgk920 on October 17, 2012, 10:09:28 PM
The only possible way that I can see it continuing is to feed it into I-580 at Carson City via US 95 most of the way and then continue beyond into California.
It might be slightly more feasible to cut over to US 395 somewhere in the Bishop area, since US 395 is already mostly four lanes compared to US 95's two.

Quote from: mgk920 on October 17, 2012, 10:09:28 PM
But then where?
If you're into unnecessary fictional freeways, west from Susanville on SR 44 to Redding and SR 299 to Arcata.
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Henry

Quote from: mgk920 on October 17, 2012, 10:09:28 PM
The only possible way that I can see it continuing is to feed it into I-580 at Carson City via US 95 most of the way and then continue beyond into California.  But then where?

Mike
Perhaps continue on up US 395 all the way to Spokane!
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ShawnP

Seems like both states want this.

Anyone care to put a timeframe on this?

I say complete by 2025.

ARMOURERERIC

I don't know how to answer without being political, but if Reid maintains any kind of leadership position, 2025 is doable

ShawnP

Believe it or not.

I am as die hard a Conservative as you can get.

Yet, I am a road geek and yes like new and/or rebuilt roads.

I say take money from the Choo-Choo train fund and build I-11, I-69, I-73/74 and I-49.

NE2

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Alps

conservatives support road building? over transit? holy fucking nutbusters.

mgk920

Quote from: ShawnP on October 26, 2012, 12:17:13 PM
Believe it or not.

I am as die hard a Conservative as you can get.

Yet, I am a road geek and yes like new and/or rebuilt roads.

I say take money from the Choo-Choo train fund and build I-11, I-69, I-73/74 and I-49.

What do you mean by the words 'Choo-Choo'?

:hmmm:

Mike

Alps

Quote from: mgk920 on October 27, 2012, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: ShawnP on October 26, 2012, 12:17:13 PM
Believe it or not.

I am as die hard a Conservative as you can get.

Yet, I am a road geek and yes like new and/or rebuilt roads.

I say take money from the Choo-Choo train fund and build I-11, I-69, I-73/74 and I-49.

What do you mean by the words 'Choo-Choo'?

:hmmm:

Mike
The government is wasting billions on steam engines, clearly.

Scott5114

Quote from: NE2 on October 26, 2012, 12:29:10 PM
baa

This adds no content and is insulting. Do not post it again.
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kkt

Quote from: ShawnP on October 26, 2012, 12:17:13 PM
I say take money from the Choo-Choo train fund and build I-11, I-69, I-73/74 and I-49.

It sounds like you haven't checked the Amtrak budget.  If you killed Amtrak and put the money from its subsidy in a bank every year, in 50 years or so you might have enough money for one major road project.

(And several states would raise state taxes to support former Amtrak routes, only less efficiently as several separate operations instead of one.)

vdeane

I think he's talking about the high-speed rail pipe dream that many politicians have right now.
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ShawnP

Yep the high speed rail pipe dream.

Interstate Trav

So the portion from Phoenix to Las Vegas is just to connect the two cities, and more likely ro be built, but there wanting to add a Southern Leg to Connect to Mexico, and a Northern One to Connect to Reno and all the way to Canada?

roadfro

The immediate focus for future I-11 is specifically to connect Las Vegas and Phoenix. As generally proposed, I-11 would be established using I-515 in Las Vegas, the future Boulder City bypass, the Hoover Dam bypass, upgrades to existing US 93 in Arizona, and the proposed Hassayampa Freeway outside of the Phoenix metro area.

Studies are being considered on extending proposed I-11 south from Phoenix to Mexico and north from Vegas to eventually reach Canada (not necessarily via Reno).
Roadfro - AARoads Pacific Southwest moderator since 2010, Nevada roadgeek since 1983.

Interstate Trav

Quote from: roadfro on October 31, 2012, 05:26:02 AM
The immediate focus for future I-11 is specifically to connect Las Vegas and Phoenix. As generally proposed, I-11 would be established using I-515 in Las Vegas, the future Boulder City bypass, the Hoover Dam bypass, upgrades to existing US 93 in Arizona, and the proposed Hassayampa Freeway outside of the Phoenix metro area.

Studies are being considered on extending proposed I-11 south from Phoenix to Mexico and north from Vegas to eventually reach Canada (not necessarily via Reno).

Oh ok.  So the section from Phoenix to Las Vegas, is there enough of a traffic demand to have a need for it?  I personally would like to see I-11 get built, but just wondering.

I remember seeing one map of the potential I-11 North of Las Vegas and it not going to Reno, but what I wonder is since Nevada is pretty Rural what would it be connecting, if not Reno, or atleast have a connection to a Spur to Reno or something like that.  Boise Idaho perhaps? 

I guess what I was wondering since you do seem to know quite a bit more about Nevada highways then me, is, is there a real need for I-11 North of Las Vegas?  Or is it a build it and they will come type of idea.

Again I really am curious to hear your input and appreciate the information you already told  me.

roadfro

Quote from: Interstate Trav on October 31, 2012, 10:22:11 PM
Quote from: roadfro on October 31, 2012, 05:26:02 AM
The immediate focus for future I-11 is specifically to connect Las Vegas and Phoenix. As generally proposed, I-11 would be established using I-515 in Las Vegas, the future Boulder City bypass, the Hoover Dam bypass, upgrades to existing US 93 in Arizona, and the proposed Hassayampa Freeway outside of the Phoenix metro area.

Studies are being considered on extending proposed I-11 south from Phoenix to Mexico and north from Vegas to eventually reach Canada (not necessarily via Reno).

Oh ok.  So the section from Phoenix to Las Vegas, is there enough of a traffic demand to have a need for it?  I personally would like to see I-11 get built, but just wondering.

ADOT has worked on upgrading much of the US 93 Vegas to Phoenix corridor to at least divided highway over the last decade or so. When you look at that added to the recent completion of the Hoover Dam Bypass bridge (four-lane interstate quality construction) and the proposed Boulder City Bypass (talked about for years due to the amount of through traffic)--there's definitely enough traffic to warrant it.

[I'll keep further discussion about proposed I-11 north of Las Vegas to the appropriate thread in Pacific Southwest board. Suffice it to say it is highly unlikely that traffic counts would indicate a need to upgrade any north/south highways in Nevada to four lanes (let alone interstate) anytime soon.]
Roadfro - AARoads Pacific Southwest moderator since 2010, Nevada roadgeek since 1983.

vdeane

Quote from: Interstate Trav on October 31, 2012, 10:22:11 PM
I guess what I was wondering since you do seem to know quite a bit more about Nevada highways then me, is, is there a real need for I-11 North of Las Vegas?  Or is it a build it and they will come type of idea.
It's a "we forgot that other roads already connect Canada and Mexico" type of idea.
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texaskdog

Quote from: ShawnP on October 17, 2012, 09:00:37 PM
Can't see the need for it north of Vegas.

Vegas to Reno, sure

Billy F 1988

So, I am curious. What exactly is the intent for I-11? Is it like some spur route that could potentially be fed into other routes like I-15 or I-84 for instance? The map in NE2's post isn't quite giving me a clear idea as to what I-11 is planned to go through.
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