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Roads/Highways referred to by a name/number other that what is signed

Started by TEG24601, January 24, 2015, 11:48:08 AM

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Pete from Boston


Quote from: 1 on February 09, 2015, 11:28:04 AM
Does "the next left", "the next right", or anything similar count as a different name? (Only in places where it would be common, like a short concurrency. Example: MA 125 at MA 114.)

Not unless "my street" counts as a different name.  I say it all the time–"park anywhere once you're on my street," "a family that lives on my street..."  But no.



Brandon

Quote from: kphoger on February 07, 2015, 04:22:25 PM
It seems to me that a lot of these posts (my own included) are about numbered routes going by a certain name.  Some have been about numbered routes going by another number or named routes going by a number, both of which are usually due to decommissioned routes or what have you.  But how many examples are out there of named routes going by a different name?

The Feeder Ramps in Chicago connecting River North with the Kennedy Expressway.  Officially, they're Ohio and Ontario Streets.  Everyone just calls them the Feeder Ramps, including the traffic reporters.
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ekt8750

Quote from: PHLBOS on February 07, 2015, 03:48:50 PM
Quote from: odditude on February 07, 2015, 11:50:53 AMI've seen signs with Schuylkill Expressway and Delaware Expressway on them recently (within the last two years) - pretty sure the Schuylkill signs were in the Fairmount Park area, probably at either Girard or MLK.
Those Delaware Expressway signs (with I-95 shields on them) are in Northeast Philly and date back to when I-95 was first built and a handful of them are still around.

As far as signs that actually have the words Schuylkill Expressway on them; I know for a fact that there no BGS' at Girard Ave. (US 13/30) near the zoo that list such.  MLK doesn't even connect to I-76 so one is not likely to see any expressway signs whatsoever along that road.  If there's a sign that does indeed mention the Schuylkill Expressway by name on it; it's probably on a small sign of sorts.

The last BGS' listing Schuylkill Expressway on them I'm aware of were (past tense intentional since the signs are no gone) located at the PA 291/Oregon Ave. interchange (Exits 347A-B) in South Philly.

Speaking of which, the BGSs for MLK Drive exit still haven't been updated. They still say Montgomery Ave/West River Drive even though the road changed names almost 10 years ago.

The Nature Boy

People along the former US 74 alignment (where the current I-74/US 74 multiplex exist) will refer the road as "Old 74." It's legally, "US ALT 74."

sbeaver44

I've heard locals (especially of the older generation) refer to any of Old York Rd-PA 177-PA 382 between Dillsburg, Rossville, and Lewisberry, PA as Space Highway.  I think this is because a) the roads seem to go to nowhere populated and b) they are built with seemingly much higher design speeds than any other 2-lane roads around the immediate area, with wider lanes, long straightaways, and gentle curves. 

PA 177's real name is Rosstown* Road between Rossville and the Warrington-Newberry Twp line, and then is Rossville Road to Lewisberry.  PA 382's real name is Lewisberry Road, which it inherits at its north end from PA 114.  Old York Road's name has historically been poorly signed, I didn't even know the name of it till I was 22 and we used it to go to York all the time as a kid.  Old York Road is also interesting because it effectively serves as a faster PA 74, bypassing Wellsville.  PennDOT wanted to route 74 onto Old York but they're having some difficulty deciding how to handle the Dillsburg end.

*I don't know why Warrington can't seem to do anything right with PA 177.  Rosstown Rd?  The place is named Rossville!  Signing PA 177 as East-West at the intersection with Pinetown Rd** when it's a North-South highway?  Sure.
**This refers to the Pinetown Rd that intersects 177 at Pinchot State Park, not the Pinetown Rd nearer to Lewisberry.  We SUCK at creative road names out here.  There are 3 Lisburn Roads (2 of which intersect each other), 3 Old York Roads, 2 Ridge Roads, 2 Pinetown Roads (which nearly intersect each other), at least 2 Lewisberry Roads, at least 2 Mount Airy Roads, 2 Siddonsburg Roads, 3+ York Roads, and 2 Andersontown Roads.  All these are separate, distinct roads that are within a few miles of each other.  When I see unique names like Thundergust Mill Rd, I smile.








Bruce

Seattle's dwindling number of state highways are almost never referred to by their numbers.


  • SR 99: Split between Aurora Avenue, the Alaskan Way Viaduct, or East Marginal Way
  • SR 513: Montlake Boulevard or Sand Point Way
  • SR 519: I don't even know where it is anymore, between all the lane shifts from the viaduct replacement construction.
  • SR 520: Referred to by number. The floating bridge it uses is never referred to by its official name, but as the "520 floating bridge".

That said, Seattle needs more named freeways.
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A map NE2 posted in the New Jersey Turnpike thread prompted me to think of the Bay Ridge neighborhood in Brooklyn. The street referred to as Bay Ridge Avenue on the road signs and subway map is universally known as 69th Street locally. If you call it "Bay Ridge Avenue," a lot of residents won't realize where you mean.
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SectorZ

Quote from: The Nature Boy on February 09, 2015, 05:02:44 PM
People along the former US 74 alignment (where the current I-74/US 74 multiplex exist) will refer the road as "Old 74." It's legally, "US ALT 74."

A lot of people call US 1 in MA between Danvers and Newburyport as "Old Route 1" despite it still being US 1. I've wondered if it's a relic from when what is now I-95 was built, where they put 1 onto it and renumbered the current 1 to MA 17 for a few years.

oscar

In Alaska and Hawaii, it is completely unexceptional for people to refer to highways by name rather than route number. But for a few roads people use an unofficial name rather than the official and signed name. For example, Alaska's Dalton Highway (AK 11) is often called the "Haul Road". On Hawaii's Big Island, county 137 is officially the Kaimu-Kapoho Road (name is poorly signed if at all), but most people call it the "Red Road" even though most of the original red cinder pavement has been covered by either smoother black asphalt or rougher black lava.

On Maui, many people call the county-owned part of the Piilani Highway south of the Haleakala volcano (county 31) part of the Hana Highway. It doesn't help that part of CR 31 south of Hana is officially part of the Hana Highway, and there is only one pair of signs at Kalepa Gulch south of Kipahulu informing motorists of the name change at that point.
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PHLBOS

Quote from: Cjzani on March 16, 2015, 11:12:52 AMA lot of people call US 1 in MA between Danvers and Newburyport as "Old Route 1" despite it still being US 1. I've wondered if it's a relic from when what is now I-95 was built, where they put 1 onto it and renumbered the current 1 to MA 17 for a few years.
That's very likely.  While most may not recall the short-lived MA 17 designation for US 1; they do remember that I-95 was originally constructed & signed as (the new or relocated) US 1.

My mother is one of those that refers to that stretch of US 1 as the Old Route 1.
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Sykotyk

I'm surprised a big one hasn't shown up.

Pittsburgh has the Parkway West and Parkway East along what is now I-376. Parkway West basically is I-376 from around the airport to the I-279 interchange, while Parkway East is from I-279 to I-76. Sometimes people will reference I-279 north out of town to I-79 as Parkway North, but not nearly as often as Parkway West or Parkway East.

SidS1045

Quote from: bzakharin on February 04, 2015, 04:32:19 PM
The Manhattan portion of I-95 gets called the Cross Bronx

I don't believe I've ever seen any signage at all calling it by its technically correct name, the Trans-Manhattan Expressway.  It is, after all, only 0.8 miles long.
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bugo

The OK 51 freeway in Tulsa is known as "The BA" (Broken Arrow Expressway). The downtown loop (I-244/444) is known as "The IDL" (Inner Dispersal Loop). Mena Street in Arkansas is known as "Main Street".

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Bickendan

OR 104S: Not signed, its streetname blades call it "Alt US 101". Even better, "Alt US 101" on the other side of US 101 has a segment with no route number, then runs concurrent with Bus US 101.

Zzonkmiles

In South Carolina, SC277 is often referred to as "I-277," especially on advertisements in the newspaper for car dealerships. They'll even put the 277 on an interstate shield.

national highway 1

Prior to 2013, the Sydney-Newcastle Freeway, signed as National Highway 1, was commonly referred to as the 'F3', reflecting the originally planned Freeway Route F3 route number allocated to the freeway but was never signposted due to the abandonment of the superfluous Freeway Route system before the route was constructed. Since the introduction of Alphanumeric route numbering system in New South Wales in 2013, the freeway has been renamed the 'M1 Pacific Motorway' and is now commonly referred to as the M1 in traffic reports.
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SidS1045

Quote from: spooky on January 26, 2015, 09:01:02 AM
most folks on the South Shore simply refer to the Southeast Expressway as "the world's longest parking lot."

Fixed.
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spooky

Quote from: SidS1045 on May 06, 2015, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: spooky on January 26, 2015, 09:01:02 AM
most folks on the South Shore simply refer to the Southeast Expressway as "the world's longest parking lot."

Fixed.

needs more expletives.

tribar


cl94

Quote from: SidS1045 on May 06, 2015, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: spooky on January 26, 2015, 09:01:02 AM
most folks on the South Shore simply refer to the Southeast Expressway as "the world's longest parking lot."

Fixed.

No, the Long Island Expressway is the world's longest parking lot
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Brandon

Quote from: tribar on May 07, 2015, 11:29:43 AM
Practically any freeway in Chicago sans I-57

They're signed.  They are marked on the big green signs, and they are even marked on street blades at interchanges.
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tribar

Quote from: Brandon on May 07, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
Quote from: tribar on May 07, 2015, 11:29:43 AM
Practically any freeway in Chicago sans I-57

They're signed.  They are marked on the big green signs, and they are even marked on street blades at interchanges.

I thought this was what people referred to them as, not how they were signed.  My bad.

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Pete from Boston


Quote from: roadman on May 08, 2015, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: SidS1045 on May 06, 2015, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: spooky on January 26, 2015, 09:01:02 AM
most folks on the South Shore simply refer to the Southeast Expressway as "the Pulaski Skyway."

Fixed.
Fixed again

Fixed ag... wait, never mind–reusing the name of a major bridge for a few inconspicuous miles of highway would be absurd.



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