I-195 (NJ) replacement of reassurance shields w/ mile marker/reassurance signs?

[bzakharin]

Sorry for the misinformation. The shields are only on full-mile markers, not on the fractions in both directions. I was confused about where I saw what last week.

[PHLBOS]

Thread bump:
(only because I made reference to PTC's approach to mile markers earlier on this thread, Reply #13 from last June)

While traveling to and from Hickory Run State Park yesterday, I noticed along stretches of the Northeast Extension (I-476), north of Landale that the PTC has been installing enhanced mile markers at every whole mile and large mile markers (w/no shield or direction) at every 0.1 mile.  These were installed along off the shoulders.  The older-style whole-mile markers, located on the median barrier, still remain.

So PTC is indeed moving towards enhanced mile markers (at least for its whole miles) along its roadway system.

[ekt8750]

Thread bump:
(only because I made reference to PTC's approach to mile markers earlier on this thread, Reply #13 from last June)

While traveling to and from Hickory Run State Park yesterday, I noticed along stretches of the Northeast Extension (I-476), north of Landale that the PTC has been installing enhanced mile markers at every whole mile and large mile markers (w/no shield or direction) at every 0.1 mile.  These were installed along off the shoulders.  The older-style whole-mile markers, located on the median barrier, still remain.

So PTC is indeed moving towards enhanced mile markers (at least for its whole miles) along its roadway system.

Are they the same style ones that PennDOT has been installing?

[PHLBOS]

Are they the same style ones that PennDOT has been installing?

Similar (for the whole mile markers).  The only differences I see between these and the ones along the Blue Route are that the Turnpike ones feature a bubble 3di-shield with Series C numerals (Series B for direction cardinals) and also display a line below the whole number and its decimal .0 display.  In contrast, the PennDOT whole markers along I-476 do not feature a decinal .0 display and feature crowded Series D numerals with a standard 3di-shield.

The new decimal mile markers (these do not feature route shields or direction cardinals) along both the Blue Route and Turnpike sections of I-476 are identical.

[storm2k]

Looks like the enhanced signs may make to at least some state signed routes. There is a new enhanced MM sign on Rt 3 just past the 17SB onramp (MM 7). I would not be surprised if freeway (and Jersey Freeway) class state roads get them and 2 lane undivided ones don't.

[NJRoadfan]

Non-freeways only get markers every half milepost anyway, so no big push there.

[Mr. Matté]

Even though we already knew about this, here's an article on NJ.com confirming the reasoning behind it to the general public. And yes, like all comment sections on that website, they're all complaining about Muh Taxes.
http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2015/11/why_do_interstate_highways_have_new_mile_marker_si.html

[vdeane]

Aren't the regular sized standard markers (like the ones in Vermont) still allowed in the MUTCD?  Why not use those?  IMO they look MUCH nicer.

NY seems to be based on region.  Region 1 does not use enhanced tenths.  In fact, the only place we use enhanced markers at all is on the Northway.  We haven't been adding tenth mile markers to places that have never had them and I've never seen them back to back either (which seems like a huge waste of money to me).  Region 2 doesn't use mile markers at all.  Region 7 uses enhanced exclusively, but only on full mile intervals.  Region 4 had their own, but hasn't been replacing them recently and there are many places where they're missing completely as a result (they use enhanced for full mile intervals now, though the only place they're installed is on I-490 west of downtown).  Region 6 uses standard markers and only at full mile intervals.  Region 8 shrunk the standard markers down to the size of the markers they used to use.  Regions 3, 5, and 9 appear to be using enhanced tenths for new installs.  Regions 10 and 11 don't use mile markers at all, and the Thruway appears to have made no effort at switching anything.  Did I forget any?

Let's just say that getting the regions to do anything is like herding cats.

[ixnay]

You will be surprised.  Ask our friend who works on the NJTA how many people say they are on the New Jersey Parkway, or the Garden State Turnpike, or on the New York Parkway. 

You (or our NJTA friend) forgot the New York Turnpike.

Way back during Palm Sunday week in 1979, my HS senior class (30 strong, plus 2 teacher chaperones [we were a private school near Philly]) went to Niagara Falls for our 3-night class trip.  We rode a chartered Trailways bus for the overnight ride over the PA TPK NE Extension, then up I-81, picking up what one of my classmates, seeing the toll booth, thought was the New York Turnpike on the other side of the 'Cuse.  (I don't think I-390 existed in its entirety back then, and NY 17 hadn't begun morphing into I-86 yet.)  But I-690 existed IIRC, but our driver may not have known about it, otherwise he might have saved us a few cents.

ixnay