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Started by roadman65, February 25, 2016, 06:32:41 AM

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roadman65

One thing that always fascinated me is the fact that VA 168 in Norfolk, VA has a short freeway segment at its north end in Ocean view  However, one intersection prior to its end (Mason Creek Road) was left at grade. 

I know there are a lot of examples like this where a road could be a complete freeway if only one intersection was grade separated, which really makes this thread about that.  Or even if its a short segment, like this one as some of you might not consider VA 168 being a freeway being that its less than a mile long.  However, this is about that one oddball intersection that breaks a streak so to say.

Are there any roads like this you would like to point out?
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jeffandnicole

US 1 in NJ could be all freeway-like for its first 11 miles, except for one intersection with Bakers Basin Road at about the half-way point. 

NJ 29 has 2 traffic lights just about right next to each other between 195 and downtown Trenton.


Max Rockatansky

California has a ton of them, way too many to list so I'll just reel off some of the more notable:

US 101:  Between L.A. and downtown San Fransisco there isn't traffic lights and for the most part it's a freeway.  There are still at grade intersections scattered all over the place.

CA 58:  Granted this will likely be a full freeway in the not so distant future but even in the four lane divided sections from Boron west to Bakersfield there are still at grade intersections here and there.

CA 60:  Basically this is a full freeway from downtown L.A. to I-10 save for the last couple miles before the I-10 terminus where at grades intersections exist.

Rothman

Makes me think of the Saw Mill River Parkway.  There's at least one traffic light on it in Hastings-on-Hudson.
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briantroutman

US 202/322 in West Chester, PA. It's a continuous freeway all the way south from King of Prussia, and before it merges with the old road south of West Chester, you have to contend with a traffic light at Matlack Street.

sandwalk

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There's a 6-mile stretch of State Route 21 in the western suburbs of Akron, Ohio that would be a complete freeway from I-77 to I-76, if not for one at-grade intersection.

Within the last year, though, that intersection was modified. The traffic light was removed and left turns were eliminated at Minor Road. It's now more of a RIRO situation.

Link: http://www.ohio.com/news/local/minor-road-state-route-21-exit-lanes-to-be-lengthened-1.663439

Map: https://goo.gl/maps/RGwEdEAUdeM2

MisterSG1

Autoroute 20 in Quebec has an at-grade rail crossing in Saint-Hyacinthe. I'm fairly sure the track is a spur and it rarely sees any rail traffic, but still, it feels uncomfortable to have to cross an at grade rail track on a freeway.

There are also two at-grade rail crossings on Route 2 in New Brunswick in the greater Moncton area, it would be nice if these tracks could be grade separated, no matter how inactive the rail is.

txstateends

I guess one possible addition would be the oh-why/WTH at-grade crossing with signal on US 69-US 75 by the Choctaw casino between Calera and Durant, OK.  I don't know if somebody thinks 1 whole person is gonna miss the turnoff to go gambling, or miss 1 of the 2 truck stops/smoke shops there or what, but too bad, build a overpass there anyway !! >ugh< (/rant)
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bzakharin

NJ 18 has 17 lights (with a freeway-like section between #5 and #6) and a U-turn across the median in its 10-mile non-freeway section, which  guess is not that impressive, but in the northern 3 miles or so there are only 2 lights, which seem to be easily eliminatable and would extend the northern freeway section to nearly 7 miles instead of the current 4

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Rothman

Quote from: 1 on February 25, 2016, 02:26:13 PM
MA 2, implied exit 29.

Eh, it operates as a freeway enough as is; there isn't a traffic light there.
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SectorZ

Quote from: Rothman on February 25, 2016, 02:41:53 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 25, 2016, 02:26:13 PM
MA 2, implied exit 29.

Eh, it operates as a freeway enough as is; there isn't a traffic light there.

Actually, eastbound the traffic light is active, given Mt. Elam Rd is a dead end street from that direction. It was kept there due to residents demanding it since they had no choice but to use that intersection to leave home. Westbound it's just a blinking yellow/blinking red situation.

Rothman

Quote from: SectorZ on February 25, 2016, 04:58:29 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 25, 2016, 02:41:53 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 25, 2016, 02:26:13 PM
MA 2, implied exit 29.

Eh, it operates as a freeway enough as is; there isn't a traffic light there.

Actually, eastbound the traffic light is active, given Mt. Elam Rd is a dead end street from that direction. It was kept there due to residents demanding it since they had no choice but to use that intersection to leave home. Westbound it's just a blinking yellow/blinking red situation.

I've driven down that road lots of times, having grown up in western MA.  Using GSV, if you move back and forth, actually shows EB as a yellow blinker as well.  I've certainly never hit a red light ever there.  I suppose I'll just count myself remarkably lucky. :D

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5476435,-71.813168,3a,75y,271.32h,93.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sktuK4SflAh3DRFBrCJaERw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That said, a red light may be triggered when someone actually comes down the road nonetheless.
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vdeane

NY 198

The proposed US 219/I-86 interchange

The at-grade rail crossings on NY5/12, NY 49, and NY 840

The two remaining at-grades on NY 5/8/12 in Utica
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noelbotevera

US 22/322 in the Lewistown Narrows. Once you are close to Lewistown, there's an at grade rail crossing I've never seen used. I'm pretty sure that'll stay there forever.

US 322 between PA 45 to Potters Mills. You can connect the two freeway segment to create a continuous freeway from Harrisburg to State College.
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jp the roadgeek

CT 9 in Middletown.  The 2 traffic lights prevent it from becoming a 3DI.
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SignGeek101

BC 91. It's 23 km (14 mi) long, and has one at-grade, smack in the middle. Apparently, there is work being done to remove the traffic lights there though. Other than that, it's full freeway.

Takumi

VA 150 has a section between Forest Hill and VA 147 with at-grades and traffic signals.
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jakeroot

Quote from: SignGeek101 on February 25, 2016, 11:15:25 PM
BC 91. It's 23 km (14 mi) long, and has one at-grade, smack in the middle. Apparently, there is work being done to remove the traffic lights there though. Other than that, it's full freeway.

Last I checked, the project is (unfortunately) still stalled. Delta/New Westminster conflicts regarding the original interchange design are mostly to blame.

If you can find some information about the interchange on a provincial website, big props to you. It's regarded online as a "ghost project"

Thing 342

The Christiansburg and Blacksburg bypasses on US-460 would be a single, contiguous 14-mile freeway were it not for a traffic light at Southgate Drive.

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SectorZ

Quote from: Rothman on February 25, 2016, 05:54:01 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on February 25, 2016, 04:58:29 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 25, 2016, 02:41:53 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 25, 2016, 02:26:13 PM
MA 2, implied exit 29.

Eh, it operates as a freeway enough as is; there isn't a traffic light there.

Actually, eastbound the traffic light is active, given Mt. Elam Rd is a dead end street from that direction. It was kept there due to residents demanding it since they had no choice but to use that intersection to leave home. Westbound it's just a blinking yellow/blinking red situation.

I've driven down that road lots of times, having grown up in western MA.  Using GSV, if you move back and forth, actually shows EB as a yellow blinker as well.  I've certainly never hit a red light ever there.  I suppose I'll just count myself remarkably lucky. :D

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5476435,-71.813168,3a,75y,271.32h,93.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sktuK4SflAh3DRFBrCJaERw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That said, a red light may be triggered when someone actually comes down the road nonetheless.

That was what I meant to say, it is a yellow blinker that changes red when someone comes down Mt. Elam.

cl94

US 4 in western Vermont has an active grade crossing 1/4 mile from the eastern end.

NY 198 was mentioned. That was supposed to be a full freeway with a trench where the kid was hit, but old-timers have told me that they built it at grade due to the high water table. Knowing that the light rail tunnel has a major leak in that area from groundwater, it makes perfect sense.

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Duke87

Quote from: Rothman on February 25, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
Makes me think of the Saw Mill River Parkway.  There's at least one traffic light on it in Hastings-on-Hudson.

There's a lot more than one.

The "freeway" portion of the Saw Mill effectively ends at Executive Blvd. North of there there are over a dozen at grade intersections, although not all of them are signalized.

That said there are a couple decent runs where you don't have to worry about red lights. There are no signalized intersections between Lawrence St in Dobbs Ferry and Marble Ave in Thornwood (~11 miles) and none between Roaring Brook Rd and I-684 (~9 miles). Both of these segments contain unsignalized intersections where the median does not break and left turns are not allowed.

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cpzilliacus

U.S. 29 in Maryland has sections that are full-freeway, other sections that are expressway, and still others that are just arterial highway with no access control. 

Most of it in Howard County is either freeway or expressway.

In Montgomery County, it is arterial (long sections just a wide city street), but there are also expressway and freeway sections.
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roadman65

I forgot about US 1 in Chester County, PA.  Just shy of the MD Border, it has one at grade intersection making it not a freeway to the actual state line. 
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