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Mileage sign destinations for NJ Turnpike and Garden State Parkway

Started by J Route Z, May 12, 2013, 03:30:52 PM

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jeffandnicole

Quote from: Roadgeek999 on May 14, 2013, 05:18:29 PM
Quote from: dgolub on May 13, 2013, 07:01:30 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on May 13, 2013, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: J Route Z on May 12, 2013, 03:30:52 PM
On the NJ Turnpike, I think the best destinations would be, starting in the south, near the Delaware Memorial Bridge heading north:
Camden
Trenton
New Brunswick
Newark
George Washington Bridge

Then Turnpike southbound,

New Brunswick
Trenton
Camden
Wilmington, DE

Since when is Trenton anywhere near the Turnpike?

It's a few miles away from the turnpike via I-195 and NJ 29.
Camden is much further away from the Turnpike than Trenton and there is no direct route from the Turnpike to Camden.  Surely they could think of a better control city.

Interchange 3 - NJ 168 goes directly into Camden.


motorway

Quote from: civilmaher on May 13, 2013, 01:40:30 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 13, 2013, 10:21:14 AM
Quote from: civilmaher on May 13, 2013, 09:45:34 AM
▼▼Here's a fairly new NB GSP mileage distance sign right at Exit 168:
Oh, fine, use real-life examples.  Takes the fun out of it. :-P

Why speculate when it's already been done? :D

I like the I-87/I-287, although I think they should have included a NYS Thruway shield as well.

Interstatefan78

What about NJTP authority putting Mileage Signs for the Hudson County Extension perhaps they will say Newark 12, Watchung 23 and Phillipsburg 67 or Clinton 53. Also NJ Turnpike should use Woodbridge 6 Newark 23, JCT I-80/US-46 34 if coming from New Brunswick (Exit 9)

NE2

pre-1945 Florida route log

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Alps

Turnpike and Parkway are not going to use distance signs on the mainline in the near future.

Roadgeek999

Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 15, 2013, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: Roadgeek999 on May 14, 2013, 05:18:29 PM
Quote from: dgolub on May 13, 2013, 07:01:30 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on May 13, 2013, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: J Route Z on May 12, 2013, 03:30:52 PM
On the NJ Turnpike, I think the best destinations would be, starting in the south, near the Delaware Memorial Bridge heading north:
Camden
Trenton
New Brunswick
Newark
George Washington Bridge

Then Turnpike southbound,

New Brunswick
Trenton
Camden
Wilmington, DE

Since when is Trenton anywhere near the Turnpike?

It's a few miles away from the turnpike via I-195 and NJ 29.
Camden is much further away from the Turnpike than Trenton and there is no direct route from the Turnpike to Camden.  Surely they could think of a better control city.

Interchange 3 - NJ 168 goes directly into Camden.
You're right.  I was thinking of the fact that there isn't a direct route to Philly and you have to take surface streets from Exit 4, NJ 73.

NE2

All you have to do to get to Camden-Philly is hop over to I-295. One light, I think, on NJ 73, and none at all at the Del Mem Br. Eliminating that light on NJ 73 would be much cheaper than building an interchange with the Turnpike.
pre-1945 Florida route log

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KEVIN_224

I assume you mean the intersection with Fellowship Road, jughandle and all, in Mount Laurel? I'd love to see how the traffic would flow there with no light!  :meh:

jeffandnicole

Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 23, 2013, 12:40:56 AM
I assume you mean the intersection with Fellowship Road, jughandle and all, in Mount Laurel? I'd love to see how the traffic would flow there with no light!  :meh:

I've thought about it either.  There's a hotel on the NE corner, a Lukoil gas station on the NW corner, the jughandle from 73 South to Fellowship in the SE corner, and a Bob Evens and an empty lot which will become part of a shopping center in the SW corner.  The ramps for the NJ Turnpike are within 500' of the intersection; the ramps for 295 are within 1000'.  Without taking property, buildings, and maybe a complete redesign of the ramp system, it's almost impossible to grade-separate 73 & Fellowship.

The final result would be a very expensive project.

Pete from Boston

Quote from: Steve on May 19, 2013, 01:36:53 PM
Turnpike and Parkway are not going to use distance signs on the mainline in the near future.

The Parkway lately hasused VMS to post miles/minutes according to current conditions.

NJRoadfan

Quote from: Steve on May 19, 2013, 01:36:53 PM
Turnpike and Parkway are not going to use distance signs on the mainline in the near future.

Than where did the fairly brand new sign at Exit 168 pictured in this thread come from?

jeffandnicole

Quote from: Steve on May 19, 2013, 01:36:53 PM
Turnpike and Parkway are not going to use distance signs on the mainline in the near future.

Here's one on the NJ Turnpike:



(Note: That is rain on the windshield.  And I was a passenger when I took the pic)

Mr. Matté

Traffic was only moving at an average of 62.7 mph on the Jersey Turnpike? I guess they don't want to advertise the actual time it takes to get there so they don't officially announce that everyone speeds on there.  :)

jeffandnicole

I had read a report involving the I-95 corridor (which includes the length of the NJ Turnpike) where those time travel signs will max out the time calculation at 65 mph...even in states where I-95 is 70 mph.  Figure that the Delaware Memorial bridge is slightly south of the end of the Turnpike, add in a minor fudge factor, and what you see is what you get.  I've never see a time better on that sign than the 45 minutes; 47 miles shown.

Your personal results may differ.  :D


Alps

Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 23, 2013, 10:36:59 AM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 23, 2013, 12:40:56 AM
I assume you mean the intersection with Fellowship Road, jughandle and all, in Mount Laurel? I'd love to see how the traffic would flow there with no light!  :meh:

I've thought about it either.  There's a hotel on the NE corner, a Lukoil gas station on the NW corner, the jughandle from 73 South to Fellowship in the SE corner, and a Bob Evens and an empty lot which will become part of a shopping center in the SW corner.  The ramps for the NJ Turnpike are within 500' of the intersection; the ramps for 295 are within 1000'.  Without taking property, buildings, and maybe a complete redesign of the ramp system, it's almost impossible to grade-separate 73 & Fellowship.

The final result would be a very expensive project.
I've drawn it up. It's actually not nearly as damaging as you'd think.

Kacie Jane

Quote from: Mr. Matté on June 04, 2013, 12:21:59 PM
Traffic was only moving at an average of 62.7 mph on the Jersey Turnpike? I guess they don't want to advertise the actual time it takes to get there so they don't officially announce that everyone speeds on there.  :)

Similar in Washington.  There's a VMS just before a mileage sign that reads "Lynnwood 12, Seattle 26".  The drive times on the VMS are never any shorter than "Lynnwood 11 MIN, Seattle 26 MIN", even though I'd put the average speed for those rare occasions of light traffic around 70.  (The speed limit is 60 mph.  I'm not sure what accounts for the difference for Lynnwood.)



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