Football (North America: NFL, CFL, Arena Football, minor leagues)

[MNHighwayMan]

With all the punting that happened, I was certain there would be a fake at least once. I was disappointed.

[abefroman329]

Yeah, I know, I do think that the Yankees are soulless corporate big spending and boring.

Yeah, but so are the Pats.  Plus, when you align yourself with any one politician, you alienate roughly 50% of the population.

[MantyMadTown]

And the Patriots/Belichick sold their soul to win. There, that was easy.

Just like they've been doing for the past 18 years.

[Roadgeekteen]

Yeah, I know, I do think that the Yankees are soulless corporate big spending and boring.

Yeah, but so are the Pats.  Plus, when you align yourself with any one politician, you alienate roughly 50% of the population.
[/quote] I don't like Trump but I don't give a crap about Brady/BBs political views.

[abefroman329]

Yeah, I know, I do think that the Yankees are soulless corporate big spending and boring.

Yeah, but so are the Pats.  Plus, when you align yourself with any one politician, you alienate roughly 50% of the population.

I don't like Trump but I don't give a crap about Brady/BBs political views.

I thought it was Kraft who praised Trump, not Belichik.  And it's not anything specific to Trump, it's what happens when you praise any politician.

[Roadgeekteen]

The AAF is starting in case you want more football.

[abefroman329]

I think I'd rather watch the AFL.

[ET21]

True football isn't back for 8 months

[kevinb1994]

True football isn't back for 8 months

I think you mean a month or two less than that.

[mgk920]

True football isn't back for 8 months

I think you mean a month or two less than that.

Outside of North America, it's going on right now, their seasons end in May.

Mike

[kevinb1994]

True football isn't back for 8 months

I think you mean a month or two less than that.

Outside of North America, it's going on right now, their seasons end in May.

Mike

I see.

[mgk920]

Just wondering: when is the most recent year that any of the Boston sports teams would have been relegated if a system existed?

The 2006-07 Celtics were 24-58 and dead last in the Eastern Conference, 2nd worst team in the league.  Of course, they would bring in KG, and Ray Allen that summer to form The Big 3 and win it all the next year.

Under my figuring, if the NBA season ended with yesterday's games (Sunday, 2019-02-03), relegating would be the New York Knicks (10-42 - .192 - 15th place in Eastern Conference), Phoenix Suns (11-43 - .204 - 15th place in Western Conference) and the Cleveland Cavaliers (11-42 - .208 - 14th place in Eastern Conference - wild card).

Anyone need any more proof that LeBron James was the league's MVP last season?



Mike

[jakeroot]

This game is really boring. What went wrong?

It wouldn't be so bad if the halftime show and most of the commercials weren't also terrible.

I thought NFL 100 was the best commercial. When the ball fell off that cake and everyone froze for a second it was perfect....didn't even need the "FUMMMBLLLLE!!!!"  yell to know what was coming.

That commercial was one of the best things I've ever seen, period.

[NWI_Irish96]

The Rams didn't cheat...they were the beneficiaries of a bad call.

The Patriots were the chief beneficiaries of the bad call, and nobody is going to convince me that it wasn't in the ref's mind when that call wasn't made.  It was obvious to everybody that the Rams were a better matchup for the Patriots, and it still took a juiced-up Edelman to win.

[Roadgeekteen]

Just wondering: when is the most recent year that any of the Boston sports teams would have been relegated if a system existed?

The 2006-07 Celtics were 24-58 and dead last in the Eastern Conference, 2nd worst team in the league.  Of course, they would bring in KG, and Ray Allen that summer to form The Big 3 and win it all the next year.

Under my figuring, if the NBA season ended with yesterday's games (Sunday, 2019-02-03), relegating would be the New York Knicks (10-42 - .192 - 15th place in Eastern Conference), Phoenix Suns (11-43 - .204 - 15th place in Western Conference) and the Cleveland Cavaliers (11-42 - .208 - 14th place in Eastern Conference - wild card).

Anyone need any more proof that LeBron James was the league's MVP last season?



Mike

And that's why we don't relegate in American sports.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

It's easier to relegate when you have the infrastructure to do so. The UK has that, the US doesn't. And that's perfectly fine. There are no "worst to first"  stories in English soccer because "worst"  plays in another division the next season.

[formulanone]

There are no "worst to first"  stories in English soccer because "worst"  plays in another division the next season.

Not always.

[texaskdog]

The AAF is starting in case you want more football.

Got my tickets for the San Antonio Commanders opening game Saturday.

[Bruce]

Just wondering: when is the most recent year that any of the Boston sports teams would have been relegated if a system existed?

The Revolution finished 16th out of 19th in MLS in 2012, which would be good enough for a relegation play-off in most leagues.

Speaking of MLS, this is a random stat that shouldn't be taken too seriously (but is a barometer of the new sports landscape):

https://twitter.com/Justin_FOX5/status/1092244752123215873

[MantyMadTown]

Just wondering: when is the most recent year that any of the Boston sports teams would have been relegated if a system existed?

The Revolution finished 16th out of 19th in MLS in 2012, which would be good enough for a relegation play-off in most leagues.

Speaking of MLS, this is a random stat that shouldn't be taken too seriously (but is a barometer of the new sports landscape):

https://twitter.com/Justin_FOX5/status/1092244752123215873

Yeah this was just a sucky game this year. And postseason matches for the NFL and the MLS are way different so they don't even compare.

[mgk920]

Just wondering: when is the most recent year that any of the Boston sports teams would have been relegated if a system existed?

The Revolution finished 16th out of 19th in MLS in 2012, which would be good enough for a relegation play-off in most leagues.

Speaking of MLS, this is a random stat that shouldn't be taken too seriously (but is a barometer of the new sports landscape):

https://twitter.com/Justin_FOX5/status/1092244752123215873

How did the face-value ticket prices compare (I am working on the assumption that both stadia were sold out for the games)?

Mike

[formulanone]

Just wondering: when is the most recent year that any of the Boston sports teams would have been relegated if a system existed?

The Revolution finished 16th out of 19th in MLS in 2012, which would be good enough for a relegation play-off in most leagues.

Speaking of MLS, this is a random stat that shouldn't be taken too seriously (but is a barometer of the new sports landscape):

https://twitter.com/Justin_FOX5/status/1092244752123215873

Just because Indianapolis Motor Speedway has 150,000 attendees for the Indy 500 each year, doesn't mean that it's twice as popular as football.

There's a gradual viewership change in recent times, just as baseball was once the largest draw; soccer is gaining a steady foothold in the US. But football is still king, despite a slipping grasp.

[Eth]

Just wondering: when is the most recent year that any of the Boston sports teams would have been relegated if a system existed?

The Revolution finished 16th out of 19th in MLS in 2012, which would be good enough for a relegation play-off in most leagues.

Speaking of MLS, this is a random stat that shouldn't be taken too seriously (but is a barometer of the new sports landscape):

https://twitter.com/Justin_FOX5/status/1092244752123215873

Yeah this was just a sucky game this year. And postseason matches for the NFL and the MLS are way different so they don't even compare.

Yeah — perhaps most importantly, the MLS Cup was held in the home stadium of one of the participants, whereas the closer of the two Super Bowl teams was from 900 miles away. Happy as I am to stan for United, it isn't a fair comparison by any means.

[abefroman329]

Just wondering: when is the most recent year that any of the Boston sports teams would have been relegated if a system existed?

The Revolution finished 16th out of 19th in MLS in 2012, which would be good enough for a relegation play-off in most leagues.

Speaking of MLS, this is a random stat that shouldn't be taken too seriously (but is a barometer of the new sports landscape):

https://twitter.com/Justin_FOX5/status/1092244752123215873

Yeah this was just a sucky game this year. And postseason matches for the NFL and the MLS are way different so they don't even compare.

Yeah — perhaps most importantly, the MLS Cup was held in the home stadium of one of the participants, whereas the closer of the two Super Bowl teams was from 900 miles away. Happy as I am to stan for United, it isn't a fair comparison by any means.

I don't know that there's much of a correlation between distance from the teams' home cities and attendance at the SB.

However, it's also possible that seating capacity at the stadium is higher for soccer than football.

[jeffandnicole]

Just wondering: when is the most recent year that any of the Boston sports teams would have been relegated if a system existed?

The Revolution finished 16th out of 19th in MLS in 2012, which would be good enough for a relegation play-off in most leagues.

Speaking of MLS, this is a random stat that shouldn't be taken too seriously (but is a barometer of the new sports landscape):

https://twitter.com/Justin_FOX5/status/1092244752123215873

Yeah this was just a sucky game this year. And postseason matches for the NFL and the MLS are way different so they don't even compare.

Yeah — perhaps most importantly, the MLS Cup was held in the home stadium of one of the participants, whereas the closer of the two Super Bowl teams was from 900 miles away. Happy as I am to stan for United, it isn't a fair comparison by any means.

I don't know that there's much of a correlation between distance from the teams' home cities and attendance at the SB.

However, it's also possible that seating capacity at the stadium is higher for soccer than football.

Bingo.

The stadium is sold out.  The issue is how the tickets are counted.  Often times, it's tickets that are sold and paid for.  If tickets were held back for security, players, etc, they may not be counted in the total.  You can have sell outs for every event in the stadium, but the numbers will always differ, even for the same like-event (ie: the 8+ Atlanta Falcon games held every year).

Maybe Mr. Justin Felder should also state what the average ticket price was.  I'm sure the Superbowl attendance at 70,081 is more significant when the ticket price starts at $900, versus MLS Cup tickets when the ticket price starts at $70 (with secondary market prices starting about 250% higher).