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At-Grade Intersections with Exit Numbers

Started by Ned Weasel, August 11, 2020, 07:19:12 AM

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Ned Weasel

This thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27394.0 , along with a discussion last night about sharp-turn exits from freeways, got me thinking about something.  How common is it to have exit numbers for at-grade intersections, whether they're on Interstates or not?  Most of us know that the Garden State Parkway used to have a few of these toward the southern end, but I'm not sure if any remain besides Exit 0: https://goo.gl/maps/WeGJcZ6yRzA1mcEU6

But then, you have the occasional at-grade intersection on an Interstate highway, whether it's RIRO or allows cross-traffic.  Exit 106 on I-25 in Colorado is a pair of RIRO T-intersections: https://goo.gl/maps/YWryP7uXmsk9u2z78 , https://goo.gl/maps/stVdZ1B9y64gTgeb9 , https://goo.gl/maps/xcff2rSQwzr53Jcz9 , https://goo.gl/maps/ZFBAYfn7xPGaXPXKA (not sure what happened to the camera here).

What others can we add to the list?
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ozarkman417

The north end of I 35 has one with MN 61

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Ned Weasel

Oh, I forgot some!  Some of those goofy, blue-signed exits on US 69 in McAlester, Oklahoma are merely at-grade turns:

https://goo.gl/maps/Vv72qkANj8uZPkoJ7
https://goo.gl/maps/wm3yX4dixYooiKa76
https://goo.gl/maps/u4tjAm6kKRMUk1bn6
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1995hoo

Nova Scotia has a fair number of these on some of the 100-series highways (the one I particularly recall is NS-103 heading east out of Yarmouth parallel to the smaller roads that make up the Lighthouse Route tourist drive, but that route is not unique in the province in this respect). Here's an example: https://goo.gl/maps/hTvX4ckGQfPQ3gRE6 (the "exit" is where that car is coming from the left up ahead).

Note that while in the above-referenced example the left-aligned exit tab complies with the convention with which most of us are familiar, it seems like Nova Scotia left-aligns all exit tabs regardless of where the exit is and the type of road. Consider this one on NS-103 for a crossroads near Shelburne or this one on a freeway-grade section of NS-104.
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jmacswimmer

I-83's southern terminus at Fayette St in Baltimore is signed as "exit 1".
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zachary_amaryllis

Quote from: stridentweasel on August 11, 2020, 07:19:12 AM
But then, you have the occasional at-grade intersection on an Interstate highway, whether it's RIRO or allows cross-traffic.  Exit 106 on I-25 in Colorado is a pair of RIRO T-intersections: https://goo.gl/maps/YWryP7uXmsk9u2z78 , https://goo.gl/maps/stVdZ1B9y64gTgeb9 , https://goo.gl/maps/xcff2rSQwzr53Jcz9 , https://goo.gl/maps/ZFBAYfn7xPGaXPXKA (not sure what happened to the camera here).

this isn't far from where i live. but that is absolutely bananas.. seems like a terrible idea, since we know no-one ever speeds in this area.
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Ned Weasel

Quote from: 1995hoo on August 11, 2020, 08:51:19 AM
Note that while in the above-referenced example the left-aligned exit tab complies with the convention with which most of us are familiar, it seems like Nova Scotia left-aligns all exit tabs regardless of where the exit is and the type of road. Consider this one on NS-103 for a crossroads near Shelburne

That one should be center-aligned, if it really needs an exit number.

Quoteor this one on a freeway-grade section of NS-104.

Kansas used to do that a lot.  I'm glad they stopped.
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NWI_Irish96

Quote from: ozarkman417 on August 11, 2020, 07:25:28 AM
The north end of I 35 has one with MN 61

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The north end of I-65 does not, so apparently there is no set standard.
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1995hoo

Quote from: stridentweasel on August 11, 2020, 10:27:54 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 11, 2020, 08:51:19 AM
Note that while in the above-referenced example the left-aligned exit tab complies with the convention with which most of us are familiar, it seems like Nova Scotia left-aligns all exit tabs regardless of where the exit is and the type of road. Consider this one on NS-103 for a crossroads near Shelburne

That one should be center-aligned, if it really needs an exit number.

....

I don't know about "should." I don't know what, if any, standard Canada has for that sort of thing.
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commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

texaskdog

lots of them on I-90 in south Dakota & Montana & wyoming

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Ned Weasel

Quote from: texaskdog on August 11, 2020, 11:00:20 AM
lots of them on I-90 in south Dakota & Montana & wyoming

Are those at-grade intersections, or are they normal exits where the only thing signed is the exit number?
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crispy93

The West Side Highway (NY 9A) in Manhattan signs several intersections with exit numbers: https://goo.gl/maps/VEyLdThyRwUsP5AX9

And there are some at-grade intersections on the Saw Mill River Parkway in lower Westchester, NY that have the same (bonus LEFT exit tab): https://goo.gl/maps/PqzDDqLtV7ZnnuAA9
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jmacswimmer

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Mccojm

#15
Not sure if this meets the topic at question but here's my example.

EB I-495 Long Island Expressway Eastern Terminus in Calverton/ Riverhead NY is signed as Exit 73 even though the expressway essentially just squeezes down to one lane and merges into CR-58.
https://goo.gl/maps/hQPyJXhiCS2h2FPJ8

Here's an at grade intersection at NY-347 & NY-111 in Smithtown NY. There's no exit number but there exit tab for N-S as there's a connecting ramp for all turns onto 111 to avoid turn movements at main intersection of 111/347. There a similar sign in opposite direction as well.
https://goo.gl/maps/9dvPrp83DQbb78268


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kurumi

In Norwich, CT 2 exit 26 at Yantic Lane was at-grade. This was eliminated when the 2/32 interchange area was reconstructed in 2001.
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hbelkins

Can't recall off the top of my head, but didn't the at-grade portions of NY 17 between the Thruway and Binghamton have exit numbers?
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Eth

I vaguely recall this being the case on US 98 (maybe US 98 Business?) in Panama City, FL back in the '90s.

TheHighwayMan3561

Quote from: ozarkman417 on August 11, 2020, 07:25:28 AM
The north end of I 35 has one with MN 61



But it's the exit ramp numbered, not the intersection.

roadman65

US 98 in Bay County, FL used to have numbers.

US 258 in Hampton, VA used to have letter exits at service road crossovers back in the 70's.

NY 9A in New York City does left over from Miller's Westside Highway.
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vdeane

Quote from: hbelkins on August 11, 2020, 01:33:06 PM
Can't recall off the top of my head, but didn't the at-grade portions of NY 17 between the Thruway and Binghamton have exit numbers?
Exit 98 was the only signed one as far as I know, but exits 85 and 86 are still there around Hale Eddy.
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zachary_amaryllis

not sure if this qualifies.. but it seems like its in the ballpark..

co-115 in colorado springs.. is a 2-lane all the way from penrose to near fort carson. then, shortly after a traffic light, there's a sign for exit 40-something.. and the road becomes a semi-expressway for a little bit, before turning into (where's the southern colo guy?) nevada street?

https://goo.gl/maps/hDD6JTSBYqijFu3Y7

you might have to zoom or pan this around to see the sign.. google maps is really kicking my butt today for some reason.
its not at grade per se.. but close..
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KCRoadFan

Doesn't NY 9A/the West Side Highway in NYC have some intersections like this (at grade with exit numbers)? Maybe FDR Drive as well? Anyway, when I saw the thread title, that was the first thing that came to mind for me.



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