State routes whose numbers reflect their status as former US routes?

Started by KCRoadFan, August 15, 2020, 11:17:04 PM

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bing101

Quote from: sprjus4 on August 16, 2020, 12:17:27 AM
CA-60 reflects the original alignment of US-60 before I-10 took over most of its alignment west of Phoenix. It is a major east-west freeway parallel to I-10 in the Los Angeles metropolitan area.
Isn't CA-60 technically on a previous alignment of CA-26 and I-10 San Bernardino Freeway is on a previous alignment on US-60 and US-70. Remember at the time of the west end of I-10's construction there was a proposed idea that the Santa Monica Freeway was going to be part of CA-26 prior to becoming a part of  I-10.
     
 
There is also a CA-10 between US-101 to I-10 at the East LA interchange.


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Quote from: bing101 on August 16, 2020, 07:08:39 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on August 16, 2020, 12:17:27 AM
CA-60 reflects the original alignment of US-60 before I-10 took over most of its alignment west of Phoenix. It is a major east-west freeway parallel to I-10 in the Los Angeles metropolitan area.
Isn't CA-60 technically on a previous alignment of CA-26 and I-10 San Bernardino Freeway is on a previous alignment on US-60 and US-70. Remember at the time of the west end of I-10's construction there was a proposed idea that the Santa Monica Freeway was going to be part of CA-26 prior to becoming a part of  I-10.
     
 
There is also a CA-10 between US-101 to I-10 at the East LA interchange.

But out in the Moreno Valley Badlands it definitely is on the alignment of US 60.  There is even a US 60 shield from I-10 west which is cover plated by a CA 60 shield.  Either none of CA 60 utilizes any of the original alignment of US 60, that was all surface highway by the time it made it to California.

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DandyDan

The section of IA 163 east of Des Moines to Oskaloosa used to be US 163, and US 63 before that. The hidden designation for the old US 6 going east to I-80 from downtown Council Bluffs is IA 906.
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JayhawkCO

There's an almost answer as well.

UT 162 was supposed to be an eastward extension of US163.  It was initially signed as UT163.  When that fell through, they lowered the number by one to avoid confusion.

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froggie

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 15, 2020, 11:24:45 PM
it's *possible* part of MN 55 southeast of Minneapolis was old US 55

I don't think this is was the case (neither does Steve Riner).  US 55 came up Lyndale from the south from Lakeville.

Bitmapped

For Ohio:
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 16, 2020, 07:03:07 AM
OH 21
OH 25
OH 309
OH 430
OH 435
former OH 440, which was once and now is again US 40
OH 527
OH 550
OH 821
OH 833

For West Virginia:
WV 152
WV 527
WV 211, which was a pre-bypass alignment of the now-truncated US 21

Bruce

Washington:

SR 99: the urban section of US 99 that was deemed too important to hand over to cities
SR 410: the cross-mountain section of US 410; other remaining sections are either part of US 12 or

Oregon:

OR 99/99W/99E: Obviously all bits of US 99
OR 126: Former US 126, itself former US 28
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ErmineNotyours

Don't forget the short WA-10 between Cle Ellum and Ellensburg, retaining the high mileage mileposts from Seattle.

KeithE4Phx

Arizona:  AZ 80, 89, and 89A.

In reverse, US 93 started out as AZ 93.
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Quote from: KeithE4Phx on August 17, 2020, 11:00:01 PM
Arizona:  AZ 80, 89, and 89A.

In reverse, US 93 started out as AZ 93.

Same with AZ 95 partially becoming US 95. 

KeithE4Phx

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 17, 2020, 11:34:14 PM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on August 17, 2020, 11:00:01 PM
Arizona:  AZ 80, 89, and 89A.

In reverse, US 93 started out as AZ 93.

Same with AZ 95 partially becoming US 95.

I believe it's another "reverse."  The current AZ 95 was never a part of US 95 AFAIK, but the current US 95 was the southernmost leg of AZ 95 decades ago.
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Quote from: KeithE4Phx on August 17, 2020, 11:50:18 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 17, 2020, 11:34:14 PM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on August 17, 2020, 11:00:01 PM
Arizona:  AZ 80, 89, and 89A.

In reverse, US 93 started out as AZ 93.

Same with AZ 95 partially becoming US 95.

I believe it's another "reverse."  The current AZ 95 was never a part of US 95 AFAIK, but the current US 95 was the southernmost leg of AZ 95 decades ago.

AZ 95 came before US 95 was extended into Arizona.  AZ 95 was indeed south of Quartzsite on what is now US 95:

https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~317842~90086223:State-Farm-Road-map--Arizona,-New-M?sort=Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No&qvq=q:arizona%20road;sort:Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No;lc:RUMSEY~8~1&mi=22&trs=46

DandyDan

I knew I forgot one in Iowa. I've been on it, too. IA 471 in western Iowa is the former route for US 71. This is the segment through Early which previously had US 20 as well.

Three county highways fit as well in Iowa. D20 east from the Moorland exit through Fort Dodge and on to Webster City was US 20.  Another D20 going west from Iowa Falls to north of Williams was US 20. H34 between Hastings and Corning in SW Iowa was previously US 34
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hbelkins

Quote from: Bitmapped on August 17, 2020, 04:28:42 PM
For West Virginia:
WV 152
WV 527
WV 211, which was a pre-bypass alignment of the now-truncated US 21

Was US 33 ever routed on what is now WV 331? Or is it a former county route (33/1, perhaps) that got promoted to primary status?
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Mapmikey

Quote from: hbelkins on August 18, 2020, 09:54:28 AM
Quote from: Bitmapped on August 17, 2020, 04:28:42 PM
For West Virginia:
WV 152
WV 527
WV 211, which was a pre-bypass alignment of the now-truncated US 21

Was US 33 ever routed on what is now WV 331? Or is it a former county route (33/1, perhaps) that got promoted to primary status?

Was US 33 from inception until late 1970s...

http://www.vahighways.com/wvannex/route-log/wv331.htm


CNGL-Leudimin

A former example: NE 38 (or N-38), a remnant of US 38 due to its replacement route US 6 going further North across Omaha, deleted in 2003.
Quote from: US 89 on August 16, 2020, 03:39:07 PMUtah had apparently tried multiple times in the 1950s to add the corridor from Tremonton, UT to Sage, WY to the US route system - variously proposed as US 30, 330, and even 30C. All those proposals got hung up at some point, probably either because AASHTO rejected them or Utah couldn't get Wyoming to go along with them. At any rate, in the 1960s Utah created a State Route 30 along that Sage-Tremonton corridor, and to justify the number, the route was extended further west over SR 70 to what was then Nevada SR 30 towards Montello. Of course, Nevada's SR 30 was changed to 233 in a major 1978 renumbering.

Wow, US 30C would have long predated I-69C had it came through. I would have preferred US 530, as that route existed within Utah, unlike US 330.
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TheHighwayMan3561

Quote from: DandyDan on August 18, 2020, 07:34:50 AM
Three county highways fit as well in Iowa. D20 east from the Moorland exit through Fort Dodge and on to Webster City was US 20.  Another D20 going west from Iowa Falls to north of Williams was US 20. H34 between Hastings and Corning in SW Iowa was previously US 34

Minnesota also has
County 52 in Clay and Wilkin Counties
County 10 in Ramsey and Anoka Counties
County 61 segments in Pine and Carlton, and St. Louis and Lake
County 14 in Steele and Waseca Counties

ethanhopkin14

How about inverse.   In Texas, SH-57 became US-57

Also SH-290, SH-75 and SH-81 are former US-290, US-75 and US-81 respectively.  For the most part, Texas is done with the number once it is no longer a US highway. 

kphoger

Quote from: DandyDan on August 18, 2020, 07:34:50 AM
Three county highways fit as well in Iowa. D20 east from the Moorland exit through Fort Dodge and on to Webster City was US 20.  Another D20 going west from Iowa Falls to north of Williams was US 20. H34 between Hastings and Corning in SW Iowa was previously US 34

But those only "fit" by chance.  They only have those numbers because that's where they fit on the grid.  Iowa county highway numbers tend to increase from north to south, beginning with 10.

Webster CH-D20 is three miles south of D14, one mile south of D18.

Hardin CH-D20 is a half-mile south of D15, three miles north of D25.  Its latitude is also only one mile off from that of Webster CH-D20.  This is just a matter of making multiple counties' grids more or less make sense with each other.

Mills/Montgomery/Adams CH-H34 is between H26 and H38.  Now, you could probably convince me that those counties' entire grids were based on the location of H34, but you'd have to put forward some evidence to convince me.

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Road Hog

AR 367 is the old US 67 and AR 365 is the old US 65 before each was rerouted onto freeways.

Confusingly, AR 161 is the OLD OLD US 67 alignment south of Jacksonville, with other routings turned back either to Pulaski County or the cities of North Little Rock and Cabot. AR 367 officially starts north of the Pulaski-Lonoke county line at the AR 5 / AR 321 intersection.

ilpt4u

IL 251 is Old US 51, created when US 51 was moved onto the I-39/US 51 Freeway

Pretty sure IL 250 in Lawrenceville is Old US 50, when US 50 was moved to the northern bypass, probably from when I-64 was to follow the US 50 corridor across Illinois

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