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Started by hbelkins, March 04, 2021, 09:32:12 PM

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What is your covid vaccination status?

I have taken the first shot, but not yet taken the second one.
22 (16.4%)
I have taken both shots.
74 (55.2%)
I plan to take the one-dose shot when it's available in my area.
4 (3%)
My priority group is not yet eligible, but I plan to take it when I can.
16 (11.9%)
I have not had covid and I don't plan to take the shot at all.
14 (10.4%)
I've already had covid so I don't need to/don't plan to take the shot.
3 (2.2%)
I've already had covid but I do plan to take the shot.
7 (5.2%)

Total Members Voted: 134

tolbs17

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 09:22:59 PM
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Quote from: tolbs17 on April 23, 2021, 08:21:41 PM
we need more vaccinations. Many more. My mother is forcing to get my sister to TAKE one.

But not two?  Or is this the recently reevaluated J&J vaccine?  How you plan to capture your sister if she resists?
All. My sister will get it cause it's to prevent COVID-19 (and the variants) from spreading!

So she is getting all the vaccines?  Is this some sort of mad science experiment?
No, she will get whatever they give her. She's only 17 so she will only get the Pfizer one.

I find it highly amusing how you just lord over your sister in your posts like what she wants literally is worthless.  I'm having a hard time figuring out if it is intentional or not.
Intentional to get a vaccine?

No, the fact that you (and maybe your mother?) place literally no value in her opinion.  I'm not saying that isn't the right thing to do, she is after all a child who is being made to get a vaccine by a parent.  I just wonder if you can see how statements such as yours (and from others) might embolden certain individuals that aren't inclined to get vaccinated.  The authoritarian approach to socially "shaming others"  didn't seem to play very well during every step of the way with most COVID restrictions either.
To return to basic activities instead of working online or from home.

So your opinion is that people who don't want to be vaccinated should be forcibly compelled to do so for the "greater good?"   That may sound benign to you, but consider how that sounds to others who don't agree.   
Yes.


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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 09:22:59 PM
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 09:07:20 PM
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 08:32:25 PM
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 08:24:34 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 23, 2021, 08:21:41 PM
we need more vaccinations. Many more. My mother is forcing to get my sister to TAKE one.

But not two?  Or is this the recently reevaluated J&J vaccine?  How you plan to capture your sister if she resists?
All. My sister will get it cause it's to prevent COVID-19 (and the variants) from spreading!

So she is getting all the vaccines?  Is this some sort of mad science experiment?
No, she will get whatever they give her. She's only 17 so she will only get the Pfizer one.

I find it highly amusing how you just lord over your sister in your posts like what she wants literally is worthless.  I'm having a hard time figuring out if it is intentional or not.
Intentional to get a vaccine?

No, the fact that you (and maybe your mother?) place literally no value in her opinion.  I'm not saying that isn't the right thing to do, she is after all a child who is being made to get a vaccine by a parent.  I just wonder if you can see how statements such as yours (and from others) might embolden certain individuals that aren't inclined to get vaccinated.  The authoritarian approach to socially "shaming others"  didn't seem to play very well during every step of the way with most COVID restrictions either.
To return to basic activities instead of working online or from home.

So your opinion is that people who don't want to be vaccinated should be forcibly compelled to do so for the "greater good?"   That may sound benign to you, but consider how that sounds to others who don't agree.   
Yes.

Sounds like you got a lot to learn about how life really works then, but my point was made. 

Personally I'm not a fan of trying to compel people to do anything for the so called "greater good."   In the context of vaccinations we all probably know someone who just plain wasn't going to get one and there was anything that was going to change their mind.  So instead of wasting all that effort end trying to persuade those individuals, why not do what you think is right for yourself?

Hell, my own reasoning to get a vaccination aren't exactly "selfless."   I don't really see a true "need"  from a health perspective to have gotten a vaccination for myself.  Yes, vaccinations will decrease the likelihood of infections spreading as a global/communal thing.  All the same I've been going to work everyday (being exposed to the public) since the lockdowns in California began last year and my wife actually contracted COVID last summer.  That being the case the odds were that I was going to be fine even without a vaccination.   I do see it as a potential barrier to getting back to doing things I like doing and that was reason enough for me to get the so called "pandemic passport."

My wife on the other hand, she doesn't want to get a vaccine right now and has compelling reasons not to.  She had COVID but was symptom free the entire time, so her view on the danger is molded by that experience.  She also wanted to see what if any effects vaccines would have on people given they didn't go through the normal testing procedures.  The concept of a pandemic passport doesn't bother her either and she would rather wait for easier availability.

Do I think she is making a mistake?...absolutely.  I feel like at some point she will run into that pandemic passport issue and it will prevent her from doing something she wants to do.  I respect her decision enough that I don't feel the need to lord my opinion over her, even though I disagree.  I don't think there is anything I can do to change her mind, she has the facts by which to draw a conclusion for herself. 

So maybe you want to look at your stance and put yourself in the position of someone who doesn't agree with you.  I really think you are wasting your time by being as forceful as you are.  Your sister might not have a say, but most adults do and there probably isn't anything you can do to change their minds. 

Roadgeekteen

If you don't get the vaccine that's fine, but don't walk around unmasked in public spreading covid- continue to mask and distance preventing covid from spreading and mutating. So you don't have to get it if you want to continue living the way you did this past year.
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webny99

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:09:25 PM
If you don't get the vaccine that's fine, but don't walk around unmasked in public spreading covid- continue to mask and distance preventing covid from spreading and mutating. So you don't have to get it if you want to continue living the way you did this past year.

I suspect for people like HB that live in very rural areas, 2020 wasn't that different than 2019 except for masks (if even that) and less traveling (if even that).

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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:09:25 PM
If you don't get the vaccine that's fine, but don't walk around unmasked in public spreading covid- continue to mask and distance preventing covid from spreading and mutating. So you don't have to get it if you want to continue living the way you did this past year.

To some that isn't something they just plain aren't ever going to do, my brother is one of those people.  He decided after two states ordered (Arizona and Idaho) his franchise gyms shuttered that COVID was largely nonsense.  He doesn't deny COVID exists, but he also doesn't believe that it is a big deal either (his exact description is a bad flu). 

Some of the highlights stuff my Brother has done this past year:

-  He reopened his gyms in defiance of Arizona of Idaho State orders.  He did (I don't know if he still does) have mask and social distancing guidelines in place.  He was fined a couple times but saw it as the lesser evil given being shuttered was way more costly by his estimates (I don't know enough about his financials to determine the validity to that statement). 
-  He won't wear a mask under any circumstance and won't let his kids either.  He has taken a hard line stance that mask wearing will negatively affect his breathing as well as and theirs.  He regularly gets kicked out businesses and I'm not sure how he has gotten away with flying as much as he has. 
-  He pulled his daughters out of school given they had a mask requirement and hired an at-home instructor. 
-  My sister-in-law contracted COVID this past year but he just saw it as affirmation that he was right given she was relatively symptom free and nobody else in the house showed symptoms.  My sister-in-law briefly quarantined but he and my nieces didn't.

There is a whole lot I don't agree with that my brother does.  For the most part I believe he is making trouble for himself which could potentially have legal ramifications, he isn't exactly a stranger to that kind of thing (make of that what you will, you're probably right).  I've told him that he isn't being smart but he also told me he wasn't looking for my advice, so I left it at that.  I haven't even bothered to ask him what he thinks about vaccinations because the answer is rhetorical. 

I do agree with my brother that his gym franchise was at risk of going under due to COVID.  I also do agree fitness and exercise are far more essential than a lot of state health departments gave it credit for.   Aside from that, I mean what else can I say?  He's a perfect example of someone who is completely hardened in his line of thinking and will not be convinced otherwise under any circumstance...there is no point in me or anyone trying.  I haven't seen him or my nieces in about two years at this point, some of that was due to COVID restrictions. 

ozarkman417

Quote from: webny99 on April 23, 2021, 10:41:32 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:09:25 PM
If you don't get the vaccine that's fine, but don't walk around unmasked in public spreading covid- continue to mask and distance preventing covid from spreading and mutating. So you don't have to get it if you want to continue living the way you did this past year.

I suspect for people like HB that live in very rural areas, 2020 wasn't that different than 2019 except for masks (if even that) and less traveling (if even that).
This appeared to be true in some places in rural Missouri I visited last year. At a restaurant Ozark County, MO near the Bryant Creek, there were absolutely no covid precautions in place. Why do I think this is the case? There are so few people in Ozark County, less than 10k people. That restaurant, being in the middle of nowhere, rarely has more than a couple of sets of customers at a time, so is socially distanced anyway.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 11:28:41 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:09:25 PM
If you don't get the vaccine that's fine, but don't walk around unmasked in public spreading covid- continue to mask and distance preventing covid from spreading and mutating. So you don't have to get it if you want to continue living the way you did this past year.

To some that isn't something they just plain aren't ever going to do, my brother is one of those people.  He decided after two states ordered (Arizona and Idaho) his franchise gyms shuttered that COVID was largely nonsense.  He doesn't deny COVID exists, but he also doesn't believe that it is a big deal either (his exact description is a bad flu). 

Some of the highlights stuff my Brother has done this past year:

-  He reopened his gyms in defiance of Arizona of Idaho State orders.  He did (I don't know if he still does) have mask and social distancing guidelines in place.  He was fined a couple times but saw it as the lesser evil given being shuttered was way more costly by his estimates (I don't know enough about his financials to determine the validity to that statement). 
-  He won't wear a mask under any circumstance and won't let his kids either.  He has taken a hard line stance that mask wearing will negatively affect his breathing as well as and theirs.  He regularly gets kicked out businesses and I'm not sure how he has gotten away with flying as much as he has. 
-  He pulled his daughters out of school given they had a mask requirement and hired an at-home instructor. 
-  My sister-in-law contracted COVID this past year but he just saw it as affirmation that he was right given she was relatively symptom free and nobody else in the house showed symptoms.  My sister-in-law briefly quarantined but he and my nieces didn't.

There is a whole lot I don't agree with that my brother does.  For the most part I believe he is making trouble for himself which could potentially have legal ramifications, he isn't exactly a stranger to that kind of thing (make of that what you will, you're probably right).  I've told him that he isn't being smart but he also told me he wasn't looking for my advice, so I left it at that.  I haven't even bothered to ask him what he thinks about vaccinations because the answer is rhetorical. 

I do agree with my brother that his gym franchise was at risk of going under due to COVID.  I also do agree fitness and exercise are far more essential than a lot of state health departments gave it credit for.   Aside from that, I mean what else can I say?  He's a perfect example of someone who is completely hardened in his line of thinking and will not be convinced otherwise under any circumstance...there is no point in me or anyone trying.  I haven't seen him or my nieces in about two years at this point, some of that was due to COVID restrictions.
Your brother sounds like a bit of an asshole (sorry).
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 11:39:27 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 11:28:41 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:09:25 PM
If you don't get the vaccine that's fine, but don't walk around unmasked in public spreading covid- continue to mask and distance preventing covid from spreading and mutating. So you don't have to get it if you want to continue living the way you did this past year.

To some that isn't something they just plain aren't ever going to do, my brother is one of those people.  He decided after two states ordered (Arizona and Idaho) his franchise gyms shuttered that COVID was largely nonsense.  He doesn't deny COVID exists, but he also doesn't believe that it is a big deal either (his exact description is a bad flu). 

Some of the highlights stuff my Brother has done this past year:

-  He reopened his gyms in defiance of Arizona of Idaho State orders.  He did (I don't know if he still does) have mask and social distancing guidelines in place.  He was fined a couple times but saw it as the lesser evil given being shuttered was way more costly by his estimates (I don't know enough about his financials to determine the validity to that statement). 
-  He won't wear a mask under any circumstance and won't let his kids either.  He has taken a hard line stance that mask wearing will negatively affect his breathing as well as and theirs.  He regularly gets kicked out businesses and I'm not sure how he has gotten away with flying as much as he has. 
-  He pulled his daughters out of school given they had a mask requirement and hired an at-home instructor. 
-  My sister-in-law contracted COVID this past year but he just saw it as affirmation that he was right given she was relatively symptom free and nobody else in the house showed symptoms.  My sister-in-law briefly quarantined but he and my nieces didn't.

There is a whole lot I don't agree with that my brother does.  For the most part I believe he is making trouble for himself which could potentially have legal ramifications, he isn't exactly a stranger to that kind of thing (make of that what you will, you're probably right).  I've told him that he isn't being smart but he also told me he wasn't looking for my advice, so I left it at that.  I haven't even bothered to ask him what he thinks about vaccinations because the answer is rhetorical. 

I do agree with my brother that his gym franchise was at risk of going under due to COVID.  I also do agree fitness and exercise are far more essential than a lot of state health departments gave it credit for.   Aside from that, I mean what else can I say?  He's a perfect example of someone who is completely hardened in his line of thinking and will not be convinced otherwise under any circumstance...there is no point in me or anyone trying.  I haven't seen him or my nieces in about two years at this point, some of that was due to COVID restrictions.
Your brother sounds like a bit of an asshole (sorry).

I never said he wasn't.  The point I'm trying to make is that you all are wasting your time and breath trying to convince people like him to see things your way.  People like that don't care how many pleads or mandates you throw at them. 

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 24, 2021, 12:00:55 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 11:39:27 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 11:28:41 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:09:25 PM
If you don't get the vaccine that's fine, but don't walk around unmasked in public spreading covid- continue to mask and distance preventing covid from spreading and mutating. So you don't have to get it if you want to continue living the way you did this past year.

To some that isn't something they just plain aren't ever going to do, my brother is one of those people.  He decided after two states ordered (Arizona and Idaho) his franchise gyms shuttered that COVID was largely nonsense.  He doesn't deny COVID exists, but he also doesn't believe that it is a big deal either (his exact description is a bad flu). 

Some of the highlights stuff my Brother has done this past year:

-  He reopened his gyms in defiance of Arizona of Idaho State orders.  He did (I don't know if he still does) have mask and social distancing guidelines in place.  He was fined a couple times but saw it as the lesser evil given being shuttered was way more costly by his estimates (I don't know enough about his financials to determine the validity to that statement). 
-  He won't wear a mask under any circumstance and won't let his kids either.  He has taken a hard line stance that mask wearing will negatively affect his breathing as well as and theirs.  He regularly gets kicked out businesses and I'm not sure how he has gotten away with flying as much as he has. 
-  He pulled his daughters out of school given they had a mask requirement and hired an at-home instructor. 
-  My sister-in-law contracted COVID this past year but he just saw it as affirmation that he was right given she was relatively symptom free and nobody else in the house showed symptoms.  My sister-in-law briefly quarantined but he and my nieces didn't.

There is a whole lot I don't agree with that my brother does.  For the most part I believe he is making trouble for himself which could potentially have legal ramifications, he isn't exactly a stranger to that kind of thing (make of that what you will, you're probably right).  I've told him that he isn't being smart but he also told me he wasn't looking for my advice, so I left it at that.  I haven't even bothered to ask him what he thinks about vaccinations because the answer is rhetorical. 

I do agree with my brother that his gym franchise was at risk of going under due to COVID.  I also do agree fitness and exercise are far more essential than a lot of state health departments gave it credit for.   Aside from that, I mean what else can I say?  He's a perfect example of someone who is completely hardened in his line of thinking and will not be convinced otherwise under any circumstance...there is no point in me or anyone trying.  I haven't seen him or my nieces in about two years at this point, some of that was due to COVID restrictions.
Your brother sounds like a bit of an asshole (sorry).

I never said he wasn't.  The point I'm trying to make is that you all are wasting your time and breath trying to convince people like him to see things your way.  People like that don't care how many pleads or mandates you throw at them.
Well he's a lost cause. We can convince vaccine-hesitant people to get it, however. (Like your wife) Also, he really should wear his mask inside businesses because that does directly affect other people.
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:03:10 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 24, 2021, 12:00:55 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 11:39:27 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 11:28:41 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:09:25 PM
If you don't get the vaccine that's fine, but don't walk around unmasked in public spreading covid- continue to mask and distance preventing covid from spreading and mutating. So you don't have to get it if you want to continue living the way you did this past year.

To some that isn't something they just plain aren't ever going to do, my brother is one of those people.  He decided after two states ordered (Arizona and Idaho) his franchise gyms shuttered that COVID was largely nonsense.  He doesn't deny COVID exists, but he also doesn't believe that it is a big deal either (his exact description is a bad flu). 

Some of the highlights stuff my Brother has done this past year:

-  He reopened his gyms in defiance of Arizona of Idaho State orders.  He did (I don't know if he still does) have mask and social distancing guidelines in place.  He was fined a couple times but saw it as the lesser evil given being shuttered was way more costly by his estimates (I don't know enough about his financials to determine the validity to that statement). 
-  He won't wear a mask under any circumstance and won't let his kids either.  He has taken a hard line stance that mask wearing will negatively affect his breathing as well as and theirs.  He regularly gets kicked out businesses and I'm not sure how he has gotten away with flying as much as he has. 
-  He pulled his daughters out of school given they had a mask requirement and hired an at-home instructor. 
-  My sister-in-law contracted COVID this past year but he just saw it as affirmation that he was right given she was relatively symptom free and nobody else in the house showed symptoms.  My sister-in-law briefly quarantined but he and my nieces didn't.

There is a whole lot I don't agree with that my brother does.  For the most part I believe he is making trouble for himself which could potentially have legal ramifications, he isn't exactly a stranger to that kind of thing (make of that what you will, you're probably right).  I've told him that he isn't being smart but he also told me he wasn't looking for my advice, so I left it at that.  I haven't even bothered to ask him what he thinks about vaccinations because the answer is rhetorical. 

I do agree with my brother that his gym franchise was at risk of going under due to COVID.  I also do agree fitness and exercise are far more essential than a lot of state health departments gave it credit for.   Aside from that, I mean what else can I say?  He's a perfect example of someone who is completely hardened in his line of thinking and will not be convinced otherwise under any circumstance...there is no point in me or anyone trying.  I haven't seen him or my nieces in about two years at this point, some of that was due to COVID restrictions.
Your brother sounds like a bit of an asshole (sorry).

I never said he wasn't.  The point I'm trying to make is that you all are wasting your time and breath trying to convince people like him to see things your way.  People like that don't care how many pleads or mandates you throw at them.
Well he's a lost cause. We can convince vaccine-hesitant people to get it, however. (Like your wife) Also, he really should wear his mask inside businesses because that does directly affect other people.

My wife also doesn't care what anyone outside of immediate family or maybe her doctor says.  Again, you're better off focusing on you and your immediate circle than trying to convince people like HB. 

Roadgeekteen

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tolbs17


Roadgeekteen

Quote from: tolbs17 on April 24, 2021, 12:19:10 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:12:46 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/23/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

Johnson and Johnson is back
Just saw that, we need vaccinations to speed up again. We need herd immunity
J&J makes it easier to serve groups like homeless people and people where it would be hard to get them back for a second dose. So good news, hope people trust the vaccine.
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tolbs17

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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:21:39 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 24, 2021, 12:19:10 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:12:46 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/23/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

Johnson and Johnson is back
Just saw that, we need vaccinations to speed up again. We need herd immunity
J&J makes it easier to serve groups like homeless people and people where it would be hard to get them back for a second dose. So good news, hope people trust the vaccine.
Hell yeah. We are easing restrictions

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: tolbs17 on April 24, 2021, 12:22:40 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:21:39 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 24, 2021, 12:19:10 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:12:46 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/23/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

Johnson and Johnson is back
Just saw that, we need vaccinations to speed up again. We need herd immunity
J&J makes it easier to serve groups like homeless people and people where it would be hard to get them back for a second dose. So good news, hope people trust the vaccine.
Hell yeah. We are eating restrictions
Masks don't taste very good.
My username has been outdated since August 2023 but I'm too lazy to change it

tolbs17

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:23:42 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 24, 2021, 12:22:40 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:21:39 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 24, 2021, 12:19:10 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:12:46 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/23/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

Johnson and Johnson is back
Just saw that, we need vaccinations to speed up again. We need herd immunity
J&J makes it easier to serve groups like homeless people and people where it would be hard to get them back for a second dose. So good news, hope people trust the vaccine.
Hell yeah. We are eating restrictions
Masks don't taste very good.
Roy Cooper said he's not going to consider lifting the mask mandate until two-thirds of the adult population has at least one dose of the vaccine. But in the meantime, it's going to be a goodbye to the social distancing and capacity restrictions.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: tolbs17 on April 24, 2021, 12:25:22 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:23:42 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 24, 2021, 12:22:40 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:21:39 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 24, 2021, 12:19:10 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:12:46 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/23/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

Johnson and Johnson is back
Just saw that, we need vaccinations to speed up again. We need herd immunity
J&J makes it easier to serve groups like homeless people and people where it would be hard to get them back for a second dose. So good news, hope people trust the vaccine.
Hell yeah. We are eating restrictions
Masks don't taste very good.
Roy Cooper said he's not going to consider lifting the mask mandate until two-thirds of the adult population has at least one dose of the vaccine. But in the meantime, it's going to be a goodbye to the social distancing and capacity restrictions.
West Virginia governor Jim Justice also said that he's not lifting the mask mandate until 70% is vaccinated. I am a fan of governors doing this to incentivize people to get the vaccine.
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tolbs17

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:31:19 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 24, 2021, 12:25:22 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:23:42 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 24, 2021, 12:22:40 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:21:39 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 24, 2021, 12:19:10 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 12:12:46 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/23/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

Johnson and Johnson is back
Just saw that, we need vaccinations to speed up again. We need herd immunity
J&J makes it easier to serve groups like homeless people and people where it would be hard to get them back for a second dose. So good news, hope people trust the vaccine.
Hell yeah. We are eating restrictions
Masks don't taste very good.
Roy Cooper said he's not going to consider lifting the mask mandate until two-thirds of the adult population has at least one dose of the vaccine. But in the meantime, it's going to be a goodbye to the social distancing and capacity restrictions.
West Virginia governor Jim Justice also said that he's not lifting the mask mandate until 70% is vaccinated. I am a fan of governors doing this to incentivize people to get the vaccine.
Yeah, and the Illinois governor said about half of the adult population

kkt

For most diseases, you need about 85% of the population immune before you get herd immunity.  However, there's some immunity provided by getting a case, though I'm not sure if a mild case provides as much immunity as a severe case.  So perhaps something like 70% of the adult population would be enough.

Roadgeekteen's sister is a minor, and I don't see such a problem with her parents telling her it's required.  They presumably tell her she has to go to school (once it's in-person again), do her chores, and be home by curfew.  They're the ones who'd have to homeschool her or pay for a homeschooling teacher if the schools require vaccination to attend in person.  (It didn't even sound from what Roadgeekteen said that she was necessarily strongly opposed, just wasn't looking forward to it.)

Herd immunity is the goal, and I don't have much patience with people who don't cooperate.  Yes, I'm familiar with people who just enjoy being stubborn, but I hope missing the things they are no longer allowed to do changes their minds sooner rather than later.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: kkt on April 24, 2021, 01:01:17 AM
For most diseases, you need about 85% of the population immune before you get herd immunity.  However, there's some immunity provided by getting a case, though I'm not sure if a mild case provides as much immunity as a severe case.  So perhaps something like 70% of the adult population would be enough.

Roadgeekteen's sister is a minor, and I don't see such a problem with her parents telling her it's required.  They presumably tell her she has to go to school (once it's in-person again), do her chores, and be home by curfew.  They're the ones who'd have to homeschool her or pay for a homeschooling teacher if the schools require vaccination to attend in person.  (It didn't even sound from what Roadgeekteen said that she was necessarily strongly opposed, just wasn't looking forward to it.)

Herd immunity is the goal, and I don't have much patience with people who don't cooperate.  Yes, I'm familiar with people who just enjoy being stubborn, but I hope missing the things they are no longer allowed to do changes their minds sooner rather than later.
Who's sister are you talking about? I don't have a sister?
My username has been outdated since August 2023 but I'm too lazy to change it

kkt

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 24, 2021, 01:16:30 AM
Quote from: kkt on April 24, 2021, 01:01:17 AM
For most diseases, you need about 85% of the population immune before you get herd immunity.  However, there's some immunity provided by getting a case, though I'm not sure if a mild case provides as much immunity as a severe case.  So perhaps something like 70% of the adult population would be enough.

Roadgeekteen's sister is a minor, and I don't see such a problem with her parents telling her it's required.  They presumably tell her she has to go to school (once it's in-person again), do her chores, and be home by curfew.  They're the ones who'd have to homeschool her or pay for a homeschooling teacher if the schools require vaccination to attend in person.  (It didn't even sound from what Roadgeekteen said that she was necessarily strongly opposed, just wasn't looking forward to it.)

Herd immunity is the goal, and I don't have much patience with people who don't cooperate.  Yes, I'm familiar with people who just enjoy being stubborn, but I hope missing the things they are no longer allowed to do changes their minds sooner rather than later.
Who's sister are you talking about? I don't have a sister?

I'm sorry, it was tolbs17's sister.

bandit957

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2021, 11:28:41 PMHe has taken a hard line stance that mask wearing will negatively affect his breathing as well as and theirs.

I'm starting to think he's right about this. I've experimented with this, and I believe what I've experienced - not media figures who insist otherwise. Should I believe my own experiences, or should I believe media "experts" who are complete strangers who probably don't follow the rules themselves?

On a related note, has anyone here actually seen anyone kicked out of somewhere for not wearing a mask? I haven't seen this. A couple of the major supermarket or convenience store chains that have stores near me supposedly require masks on all customers at all their stores, but from the looks of it, their stores near me don't enforce it. I was in one of these stores a few months ago, and the clerk even said they don't enforce it, and not a single customer was wearing one. This was months before vaccines were even available.
Might as well face it, pooing is cool

hotdogPi

Quote from: bandit957 on April 24, 2021, 08:42:16 AM
On a related note, has anyone here actually seen anyone kicked out of somewhere for not wearing a mask? I haven't seen this. A couple of the major supermarket or convenience store chains that have stores near me supposedly require masks on all customers at all their stores, but from the looks of it, their stores near me don't enforce it. I was in one of these stores a few months ago, and the clerk even said they don't enforce it, and not a single customer was wearing one. This was months before vaccines were even available.

It depends on where you are in the country. It is definitely the case where I live, although I've never seen it since compliance is almost perfect.
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