Surrender your man card here

[jakeroot]

I much prefer short shorts. Primarily so I can maintain a decent tan on my thighs. I have a khaki-colored pair that, when paired with hiking boots, long socks, and bushman hat, make me look decidedly Australian!

If only I wasn't afraid of carrying knives as well.

[formulanone]

Well, I mean. It's kind of one of those things that I can't help but engage with at an existential level, because the concept of having a "man card" you can surrender is so foreign to my adult experience. ....

I'm not going to name any usernames, but I have reason to believe certain forum members would strongly disagree with that last clause.

The nice thing about not giving a shit about your societal gender role is that you also stop giving a shit about the opinions of other people in regards to how well you performed that gender role. Like I said, it's freeing.

But...then the womenfolk will not let you help repopulate the land, and eventually tyrants, pirates, and sabertoothed creatures may take over and decimate our homeland.

tl;dr don't take the thread too seriously.

[Roadgeekteen]

This thread should be a safe space for people to share embarrassing things about them

[Rothman]

This thread should be a safe space for people to share embarrassing things about them

Who's "them"?

[Scott5114]

Well, I mean. It's kind of one of those things that I can't help but engage with at an existential level, because the concept of having a "man card" you can surrender is so foreign to my adult experience. ....

I'm not going to name any usernames, but I have reason to believe certain forum members would strongly disagree with that last clause.

The nice thing about not giving a shit about your societal gender role is that you also stop giving a shit about the opinions of other people in regards to how well you performed that gender role. Like I said, it's freeing.

But...then the womenfolk will not let you help repopulate the land, and eventually tyrants, pirates, and sabertoothed creatures may take over and decimate our homeland.

tl;dr don't take the thread too seriously.

Tyrant pirates with sabertoothed creatures, eh?

* Scott5114 starts furiously scribbling down notes for his next D&D campaign

[Max Rockatansky]

This thread should be a safe space for people to share embarrassing things about them

The internet rarely is a safe space for anything.

[Roadgeekteen]

This thread should be a safe space for people to share embarrassing things about them

Who's "them"?

The person in question

[Rothman]

This thread should be a safe space for people to share embarrassing things about them

Who's "them"?

The person in question

Where is Question and how did they get there?

[kphoger]

how did they get there?

Can the existential questions, please.

[Max Rockatansky]

Hell, I recall there being a time not so long ago where being an intelligent male was generally perceived as not being "very manly."

[Rothman]

how did they get there?

Can the existential questions, please.

I'll see if I can find a mason jar.

[thspfc]

This thread should be a safe space for people to share embarrassing things about them

Really, Sherlock?

[NWI_Irish96]

I like mojitos and caipirinhas, and beers with a low IBU.

Not sure what you consider to be a low IBU. I don't like fruity beers that tend to have very low IBU (< 15) but my favorite beers tend to be in the 20-35 range, which is considered low compared to the currently out-of-control obsession with flavorless IPAs with IBUs now pushing triple digits.

[jakeroot]

I tend to avoid conflict whenever I possibly can. Some guys take "stand your ground" way too seriously.

[hbelkins]

Someone mentioned driving a stick. I don't. I have done it a few times, but not well, and honestly had no desire to ever learn to drive a stick.

Manually shifting gears, in my view, makes driving more difficult and more effort- and labor-intensive. I'd rather just accelerate, brake, and steer, and let the machine shift gears for me.

[Max Rockatansky]

Someone mentioned driving a stick. I don't. I have done it a few times, but not well, and honestly had no desire to ever learn to drive a stick.

Manually shifting gears, in my view, makes driving more difficult and more effort- and labor-intensive. I'd rather just accelerate, brake, and steer, and let the machine shift gears for me.

I can drive a stick but it's incredibly annoying in most normal driving situations.  If I was still doing things like hot laps at a track or going to drag strips I can see myself wanting a manual for those applications.  Besides, most modern automatics are way faster and usually have more gears than manuals.  The fact that high marque like Ferrari don't offer manuals really speaks to how antiquated they are.

[Max Rockatansky]

I'm open to the concept of an EV muscle car or one that has something other than a V8.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Someone mentioned driving a stick. I don't. I have done it a few times, but not well, and honestly had no desire to ever learn to drive a stick.

Manually shifting gears, in my view, makes driving more difficult and more effort- and labor-intensive. I'd rather just accelerate, brake, and steer, and let the machine shift gears for me.

I can drive a stick but it's incredibly annoying in most normal driving situations.  If I was still doing things like hot laps at a track or going to drag strips I can see myself wanting a manual for those applications.  Besides, most modern automatics are way faster and usually have more gears than manuals.  The fact that high marque like Ferrari don't offer manuals really speaks to how antiquated they are.

I doubt most people today care to. It's just the loud subset of people who would choose to not own a car over being forced to drive an automatic car makes it seem very large.

[Max Rockatansky]

Someone mentioned driving a stick. I don't. I have done it a few times, but not well, and honestly had no desire to ever learn to drive a stick.

Manually shifting gears, in my view, makes driving more difficult and more effort- and labor-intensive. I'd rather just accelerate, brake, and steer, and let the machine shift gears for me.

I can drive a stick but it's incredibly annoying in most normal driving situations.  If I was still doing things like hot laps at a track or going to drag strips I can see myself wanting a manual for those applications.  Besides, most modern automatics are way faster and usually have more gears than manuals.  The fact that high marque like Ferrari don't offer manuals really speaks to how antiquated they are.

I doubt most people today care to. It's just the loud subset of people who would refuse to own a car before being forced to drive an automatic car makes it seem very large.

Similar demographic to who insists on only V8s in muscle cars.

[jakeroot]

Welp, as a daily manual driver, I must chime in.

Manuals are not chosen because they are faster, or get better fuel economy, or because they're easier. They're just preferred for their engagement. You feel more involved. There's nothing wrong with that.

When I bought my Golf in 2015, the manual was the obvious pick: better fuel economy, cheaper to buy and cheaper to maintain, and more fun overall. Improved resale value as well, to the right person of course. Newer autoboxes have eliminated that fuel economy advantage, however, so now it's just about the "cheap and cheerful" vibe.

For the record: no one who daily's a manual thinks about the additional labor. It's all muscle memory. The only time it may come up is crawling up a hill, where it can be difficult to give the clutch a rest. And even then, it's not difficult, you just feel bad for the poor car.

[Max Rockatansky]

The less engagement I can feel commuting down the same slog of highway to work the better.  I much rather zone out and relax, I never could do that in a manual.  Yeah, back roads I'm with you that can be a lot of fun having the extra engagement. 

[JayhawkCO]

Oh, forgot to add this to my list. 

I've never been hit in the face.

Chris

[Max Rockatansky]

Oh, forgot to add this to my list. 

I've never been hit in the face.

Chris

I used to think it was normal for people to have gotten into a lot of fights growing up but I've found in my adult life that isn't the case.

[Rothman]

Manuals being better for fuel economy?  That benefit should come with instructions on how to properly shift gears so you realize those gains.

[Max Rockatansky]

Manuals being better for fuel economy?  That benefit should come with instructions on how to properly shift gears so you realize those gains.

Typically the automatic variant of most new cars has better economy now.