Windows Xp nears End Of Life (THANK GOD!) Zero Day Forever April 8 2014

[SteveG1988]

[myosh_tino]

Never Obsolete?!?!?   

[Molandfreak]

THIS COMPUTER IS NEVER OBSOLETE

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[SteveG1988]

So for 578.76 (2 years after buying it with the expensive internet plus the 99 buck fee to "upgrade") you will get another low end emachines.

[formulanone]

Emachines were the KIA Motors of its day, outdated and finicky...still less troublesome than a Packard Bell. Although KIA has improved quite a bit in reliability and desirability, recently.

[SidS1045]

Interesting stat in a Boston Globe article today about the end of XP:  It still has a 29.5% market share, according to NetMarketShare.

An even scarier stat from the article:  95% of the world's automatic teller machines run on XP, according to NCR Corporation.  I don't see ATM's being frantically replaced because of this.

[Scott5114]

The breadcrumb bar is explorer is very nice too (it's the main Windows feature I miss in Linux). 

Dolphin has a breadcrumb bar. If you don't see it, click the blue check mark to the right of the location bar.

[SteveG1988]

Interesting stat in a Boston Globe article today about the end of XP:  It still has a 29.5% market share, according to NetMarketShare.

An even scarier stat from the article:  95% of the world's automatic teller machines run on XP, according to NCR Corporation.  I don't see ATM's being frantically replaced because of this.

The old ATM os was IBM OS/2. XP on an ATM will not prove to be as big of an issue as it sounds, since access to the hardware/software is limited, i would not be suprised if the OS itself is on a ROM board. Windows XP Embedded is the OS, and there is a version that is supported til 2019 based on it (that is the ONLY version of Xp Post April 8 2014 that will get any updates, and it was never available for retail sale, and it is actually a cutdown version of Xp for point of sale terminals and stuff like that.)

https://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/product-lifecycles.aspx

These versions are sold in bulk to companies for installation on specialized hardware that does not need the full GUI, just the windows kernel and API. For example it may have access to a web browser, media player, and stuff like that for a Kiosk at a library. Or just enough stuff to access a sales database

[realjd]

Interesting stat in a Boston Globe article today about the end of XP:  It still has a 29.5% market share, according to NetMarketShare.

An even scarier stat from the article:  95% of the world's automatic teller machines run on XP, according to NCR Corporation.  I don't see ATM's being frantically replaced because of this.

ATMs (and other embedded XP devices) aren't as vulnerable to attack. I doubt NCR regularly ran upgrades on fielded ATMs anyway, so the end of patches won't really affect them. Even ATMs that use the internet as a communication medium instead of modems most likely are isolated through other means such as a router/firewall/VPN device built into the box but separate from the Windows board.

[NJRoadfan]

Windows XP Embedded is the OS, and there is a version that is supported til 2019 based on it (that is the ONLY version of Xp Post April 8 2014 that will get any updates, and it was never available for retail sale, and it is actually a cutdown version of Xp for point of sale terminals and stuff like that.)

I have Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 setup in a VM, we'll see if the updates can be backported to retail XP.....

On a side note, its everything XP should have been originally. It runs like greased lightning AND it has a proper graphical setup program (using WinPE) that doesn't require a floppy drive to installed 3rd party disk drivers.

[SteveG1988]

Windows XP Embedded is the OS, and there is a version that is supported til 2019 based on it (that is the ONLY version of Xp Post April 8 2014 that will get any updates, and it was never available for retail sale, and it is actually a cutdown version of Xp for point of sale terminals and stuff like that.)

I have Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 setup in a VM, we'll see if the updates can be backported to retail XP.....

On a side note, its everything XP should have been originally. It runs like greased lightning AND it has a proper graphical setup program (using WinPE) that doesn't require a floppy drive to installed 3rd party disk drivers.

Windows PE came about thanks to Vista, it was awesome to be able to use a USB drive for the SATA drivers.

[NJRoadfan]

Windows PE was actually released with Windows XP. I have been using the nifty BartPE tool to create XP live CDs for repair work for close to 10 years now.

[JoePCool14]

18 Days

[Roadsguy]

Three days, 11 hours, 49 minutes, and ~50 seconds! Microsoft has a counter.

Relevant.

[SSOWorld]

Three days, 11 hours, 49 minutes, and ~50 seconds! Microsoft has a counter.

Relevant.

They should have went straight to Windows 9.

[CNGL-Leudimin]

I believe I will continue with Windows XP after the "shutdown"... However I plan to update to Windows 7 or 8 soon.

[Pete from Boston]

Why "thank god"?  I mean, if you don't use it, what's the big deal?

[getemngo]

Why "thank god"?  I mean, if you don't use it, what's the big deal?

I'm with you. It's my favorite version of Windows up until 7. There's a reason people were demanding it still be sold, and Microsoft relented, after Vista came out.

It's also not going to force people to upgrade (even though it really should). My college library is still full of XP machines, and they actually added card readers to them sometime in the last month, so they're not going anywhere. 

[algorerhythms]

Three days, 11 hours, 49 minutes, and ~50 seconds! Microsoft has a counter.

Relevant.

Microsoft Bob? How old do they think XP is?

[Android]

Aren't "computer years" about the same as "dog years"? 

I replaced one computer with a refurbished W7 unit, and upgraded my laptops to W7.  Bye Bye XP, except for XP-mode which I set up for an old flatbed scanner that I might still use. 

[vdeane]

Why "thank god"?  I mean, if you don't use it, what's the big deal?

I'm with you. It's my favorite version of Windows up until 7. There's a reason people were demanding it still be sold, and Microsoft relented, after Vista came out.

It's also not going to force people to upgrade (even though it really should). My college library is still full of XP machines, and they actually added card readers to them sometime in the last month, so they're not going anywhere. 

If the current culture surrounding XP surrounded all Windows releases, the dominant OS would still be Windows for Workgroups 3.11.

Three days, 11 hours, 49 minutes, and ~50 seconds! Microsoft has a counter.

Relevant.

Microsoft Bob? How old do they think XP is?

Believe it or not, the release of XP is closer to the release of Bob than to today.

[bugo]

Why "thank god"?  I mean, if you don't use it, what's the big deal?

Steve Gum was attempting to troll me.  He knows I think it's irresponsible for a company to do what Microsoft is doing.  Steve thinks grandma should have to buy a new computer (with the wildly unpopular Windows 8) just to be safe from viruses and malware when all she uses her computer for is to download pictures of her grandkids.  He also thinks the still large nunber of Windows XP users still out there should be left vulnerable to the bad guys out there.

[SteveG1988]

Why "thank god"?  I mean, if you don't use it, what's the big deal?

Steve Gum was attempting to troll me.  He knows I think it's irresponsible for a company to do what Microsoft is doing.  Steve thinks grandma should have to buy a new computer (with the wildly unpopular Windows 8) just to be safe from viruses and malware when all she uses her computer for is to download pictures of her grandkids.  He also thinks the still large nunber of Windows XP users still out there should be left vulnerable to the bad guys out there.

My grandma runs windows 7 on a 2010 Dell that cost less than 300 dollars new.

[bugo]

Why "thank god"?  I mean, if you don't use it, what's the big deal?

Steve Gum was attempting to troll me.  He knows I think it's irresponsible for a company to do what Microsoft is doing.  Steve thinks grandma should have to buy a new computer (with the wildly unpopular Windows 8) just to be safe from viruses and malware when all she uses her computer for is to download pictures of her grandkids.  He also thinks the still large nunber of Windows XP users still out there should be left vulnerable to the bad guys out there.

My grandma runs windows 7 on a 2010 Dell that cost less than 300 dollars new.

$300 is a lot for somebody on a fixed income.  Microsoft is as shameful as the televangelists who steal money from poor old ladies.

[SteveG1988]

Why "thank god"?  I mean, if you don't use it, what's the big deal?

Steve Gum was attempting to troll me.  He knows I think it's irresponsible for a company to do what Microsoft is doing.  Steve thinks grandma should have to buy a new computer (with the wildly unpopular Windows 8) just to be safe from viruses and malware when all she uses her computer for is to download pictures of her grandkids.  He also thinks the still large nunber of Windows XP users still out there should be left vulnerable to the bad guys out there.

My grandma runs windows 7 on a 2010 Dell that cost less than 300 dollars new.

$300 is a lot for somebody on a fixed income.  Microsoft is as shameful as the televangelists who steal money from poor old ladies.

My grandparents live on a fixed income, and they were able to get it. Also windows 8 costs 99 bucks, one time fee. if you shop around you can get windows 7 for about 65-80 bucks.

Also in 2002 Xp Pro UPGRADE cost 160 bucks.