Minor things that bother you

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kernals12

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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2024, 12:54:23 PMA lot of them auto populate that information now if you upload a resume first. 

But a lot of them get the formatting f*cked up.

This is but a symptom of a much larger issue: the inability of organization's databases to talk to each other. This means lots and lots of extra form filling


D-Dey65

#9076
Quote from: mgk920 on August 09, 2024, 12:32:08 PMSort of like when someone tells me that they are in 'Sunny Florida' (or some other southern state), I'll then text reply that '"I've looked all over my RMcN or Google maps and have not found a city in that state named 'Sunny'".  (Yea, it is a snarky reply.)  Hmmmm, an idea? :nod:

Mike
There was a tractor repair shop in Brooksville once that gave their address as "Sunny, Florida," and used their appropriate zip code.


Anyway, something else to piss mee off. The Town of Brookhaven hasn't done shit to fix this intersection for over 55 years.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/41%C2%B018'00.0%22N+72%C2%B028'00.0%22W/@40.8160767,-73.037251,421m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d41.3!4d-72.466667?hl=en&entry=ttu
That's Blue Point Road and Long Island Avenue between Holtsville and Farmingville for those who don't know.


roadman65

I had one warehouse advertise a position in their warehouse. I applied and then when the interviewer discovered I had sales experience he offered me what I thought to be a delivery job to regular customers on a route. It was a children's book warehouse the nature of the business.

I then showed up for work to only find out that it was cold selling on strictly commission. I use my own car and pick whomever I wish to sell to.

I was disappointed to say the least as I wanted the warehouse worker job that paid a wage. The interviewer made it would look like warehouse work was beneath me and that I was better suited for sales like sales is better than labor and I felt promoted before I was hired.

Let me say that ad was phony as the job itself.
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Rothman

Quote from: roadman65 on August 12, 2024, 07:45:48 PMI had one warehouse advertise a position in their warehouse. I applied and then when the interviewer discovered I had sales experience he offered me what I thought to be a delivery job to regular customers on a route. It was a children's book warehouse the nature of the business.

I then showed up for work to only find out that it was cold selling on strictly commission. I use my own car and pick whomever I wish to sell to.

I was disappointed to say the least as I wanted the warehouse worker job that paid a wage. The interviewer made it would look like warehouse work was beneath me and that I was better suited for sales like sales is better than labor and I felt promoted before I was hired.

Let me say that ad was phony as the job itself.

PT Barnum saw you coming.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Max Rockatansky

Probably some sort of bait and switch pyramid scheme of some kind. 

vdeane

Quote from: Rothman on August 12, 2024, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2024, 12:54:23 PMA lot of them auto populate that information now if you upload a resume first. 

Not my workplace.  You send in a resume and, if you're chosen for an interview, you have to fill out a manual form with information from your resume.

At least we now provide it in a fillable .pdf form. :/
Sometimes more information, given that they want every job you've ever had.  Got a job that was a bad fit that isn't even relevant to what you're applying to?  Sorry, have to list it.  Have a past supervisor you know will give a bad reference?  Sorry, you have to list them.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Scott5114

Quote from: vdeane on August 12, 2024, 09:32:25 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 12, 2024, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2024, 12:54:23 PMA lot of them auto populate that information now if you upload a resume first. 

Not my workplace.  You send in a resume and, if you're chosen for an interview, you have to fill out a manual form with information from your resume.

At least we now provide it in a fillable .pdf form. :/
Sometimes more information, given that they want every job you've ever had.  Got a job that was a bad fit that isn't even relevant to what you're applying to?  Sorry, have to list it.  Have a past supervisor you know will give a bad reference?  Sorry, you have to list them.

I mean, you don't have to do anything. What are they gonna do, research your past to make sure you didn't leave off any jobs? They have a thousand applicants; they don't have the time or money to do that.
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oscar

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 13, 2024, 12:50:48 AM
Quote from: vdeane on August 12, 2024, 09:32:25 PMSometimes more information, given that they want every job you've ever had.  Got a job that was a bad fit that isn't even relevant to what you're applying to?  Sorry, have to list it.  Have a past supervisor you know will give a bad reference?  Sorry, you have to list them.

I mean, you don't have to do anything. What are they gonna do, research your past to make sure you didn't leave off any jobs? They have a thousand applicants; they don't have the time or money to do that.

They can pick up gaps in your job history just by looking at your resume.
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Quote from: oscar on August 13, 2024, 01:04:05 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 13, 2024, 12:50:48 AM
Quote from: vdeane on August 12, 2024, 09:32:25 PMSometimes more information, given that they want every job you've ever had.  Got a job that was a bad fit that isn't even relevant to what you're applying to?  Sorry, have to list it.  Have a past supervisor you know will give a bad reference?  Sorry, you have to list them.

I mean, you don't have to do anything. What are they gonna do, research your past to make sure you didn't leave off any jobs? They have a thousand applicants; they don't have the time or money to do that.

They can pick up gaps in your job history just by looking at your resume.
Expectations that you had to work continuously your whole adult life.

Scott5114

Quote from: oscar on August 13, 2024, 01:04:05 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 13, 2024, 12:50:48 AM
Quote from: vdeane on August 12, 2024, 09:32:25 PMSometimes more information, given that they want every job you've ever had.  Got a job that was a bad fit that isn't even relevant to what you're applying to?  Sorry, have to list it.  Have a past supervisor you know will give a bad reference?  Sorry, you have to list them.

I mean, you don't have to do anything. What are they gonna do, research your past to make sure you didn't leave off any jobs? They have a thousand applicants; they don't have the time or money to do that.

They can pick up gaps in your job history just by looking at your resume.

Not if you also run an LLC the whole time. :P
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Rothman

#9085
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 13, 2024, 12:50:48 AM
Quote from: vdeane on August 12, 2024, 09:32:25 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 12, 2024, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2024, 12:54:23 PMA lot of them auto populate that information now if you upload a resume first. 

Not my workplace.  You send in a resume and, if you're chosen for an interview, you have to fill out a manual form with information from your resume.

At least we now provide it in a fillable .pdf form. :/
Sometimes more information, given that they want every job you've ever had.  Got a job that was a bad fit that isn't even relevant to what you're applying to?  Sorry, have to list it.  Have a past supervisor you know will give a bad reference?  Sorry, you have to list them.

I mean, you don't have to do anything. What are they gonna do, research your past to make sure you didn't leave off any jobs? They have a thousand applicants; they don't have the time or money to do that.

If you don't fill out the form, no job for you.

And, gaps in employment history are noticed, since most people need to work to get by.  Gaps could signify difficulty in getting work due to a bad departure from a previous job.

That said, I find employment/reference checks to be more informative than explanations in interviews.  It's the slim minority of candidates that fail such, but it's still shocking when it happens.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Scott5114

Quote from: Rothman on August 13, 2024, 07:01:52 AMIf you don't fill out the form, no job for you.

Of course. But the form is a test that you hold the answer key to, not the employer.

Anyway, if you have a gap in your employment history you need to cover up, you can just say you were working at Sears.
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 13, 2024, 07:32:23 AM
Quote from: Rothman on August 13, 2024, 07:01:52 AMIf you don't fill out the form, no job for you.

Of course. But the form is a test that you hold the answer key to, not the employer.

Anyway, if you have a gap in your employment history you need to cover up, you can just say you were working at Sears.

If your job history looks like this...

Professional job
Professional job
Selling washing machines
Professional job
Professional job

...I may be a little suspicious.

Sure, you could say you had a professional job with Sears. Just make sure it's a believable story.

And hope your interviewer didn't work at Sears also.

Max Rockatansky

Outside of someone working at the Sears store you claim on your resume that would be nigh impossible to refute.

mgk920

And now with an increasing percentage of younger guys opting for trade/vo/tech schools instead of the university track, it will be interesting to see how that professional white collar job hiring routine changes.  It is pretty hard for the blue collar crowd to 'work at home'.

Mike

SEWIGuy

Quote from: mgk920 on August 13, 2024, 12:48:58 PMAnd now with an increasing percentage of younger guys opting for trade/vo/tech schools instead of the university track, it will be interesting to see how that professional white collar job hiring routine changes.  It is pretty hard for the blue collar crowd to 'work at home'.

As a percentage, the number of high school graduates going to a two year school, versus a four year school, reached it lowest point last year.

See the second chart

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2024/61-4-percent-of-recent-high-school-graduates-enrolled-in-college-in-october-2023.htm

hbelkins

Quote from: 1995hoo on August 06, 2024, 06:13:18 PMPolitical text message spam. Somehow, my mobile number got placed in the database for one of the two major-party candidates for president (I won't say which one) even though in Virginia we don't register by party, I've never joined a political party, I don't vote based on party lines, and the only two times I've donated to candidates neither one of them were from this candidate's party (one was a fellow I knew who was running for state senate, the other was a third-party candidate for national office). My phone is starting to blow up with their bullshit donation requests, which of course just ensures I will not donate a penny (piss me off? Hell no will I donate to you!).

What is unfortunate is that if you turn on the feature that filters out all messages from unknown senders, you cause yourself problems because of how online banking services and the like persist in insisting on text messages as their only acceptable form of multi-factor authentication (as opposed to using an app like my employer does or Microsoft does). Makes me think I maybe I should take Verizon up on their ads to add a second number for $10 a month and then use that number for the two-factor authentication and nothing else while setting my current number to reject all messages from unknown senders. But, of course, resetting your number everywhere takes forever too.

Why not block the number? Most of those campaigns use the same number. The Commie Party will use a number, the Freedom Party will use a number, etc. Block the first solicitation number you get and you won't get anymore texts.

iOS 17 has a nice feature that will allow you to silence unknown callers. If the number is not in your contacts list or in your recent calls list, it goes straight to voicemail and your phone doesn't even ring. My rule is, "if it's important and I don't answer, they can leave a message."
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SSOWorld

Quote from: hbelkins on August 13, 2024, 07:42:36 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 06, 2024, 06:13:18 PMPolitical text message spam. Somehow, my mobile number got placed in the database for one of the two major-party candidates for president (I won't say which one) even though in Virginia we don't register by party, I've never joined a political party, I don't vote based on party lines, and the only two times I've donated to candidates neither one of them were from this candidate's party (one was a fellow I knew who was running for state senate, the other was a third-party candidate for national office). My phone is starting to blow up with their bullshit donation requests, which of course just ensures I will not donate a penny (piss me off? Hell no will I donate to you!).

What is unfortunate is that if you turn on the feature that filters out all messages from unknown senders, you cause yourself problems because of how online banking services and the like persist in insisting on text messages as their only acceptable form of multi-factor authentication (as opposed to using an app like my employer does or Microsoft does). Makes me think I maybe I should take Verizon up on their ads to add a second number for $10 a month and then use that number for the two-factor authentication and nothing else while setting my current number to reject all messages from unknown senders. But, of course, resetting your number everywhere takes forever too.

Why not block the number? Most of those campaigns use the same number. The Commie Party will use a number, the Freedom Party will use a number, etc. Block the first solicitation number you get and you won't get anymore texts.

iOS 17 has a nice feature that will allow you to silence unknown callers. If the number is not in your contacts list or in your recent calls list, it goes straight to voicemail and your phone doesn't even ring. My rule is, "if it's important and I don't answer, they can leave a message."
A nice feature, but that only works for phone calls. Text messages? you're on your own.
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hotdogPi

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There's a Commie Party? I've never seen them advertise or campaign or hear anyone talk about them.
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Do they have a Commie Santa?


Big John

They use multiple numbers. I block one and get the same thing from another number. Repeat ad-nauseum.

1995hoo

Quote from: hbelkins on August 13, 2024, 07:42:36 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 06, 2024, 06:13:18 PMPolitical text message spam. Somehow, my mobile number got placed in the database for one of the two major-party candidates for president (I won't say which one) even though in Virginia we don't register by party, I've never joined a political party, I don't vote based on party lines, and the only two times I've donated to candidates neither one of them were from this candidate's party (one was a fellow I knew who was running for state senate, the other was a third-party candidate for national office). My phone is starting to blow up with their bullshit donation requests, which of course just ensures I will not donate a penny (piss me off? Hell no will I donate to you!).

What is unfortunate is that if you turn on the feature that filters out all messages from unknown senders, you cause yourself problems because of how online banking services and the like persist in insisting on text messages as their only acceptable form of multi-factor authentication (as opposed to using an app like my employer does or Microsoft does). Makes me think I maybe I should take Verizon up on their ads to add a second number for $10 a month and then use that number for the two-factor authentication and nothing else while setting my current number to reject all messages from unknown senders. But, of course, resetting your number everywhere takes forever too.

Why not block the number? Most of those campaigns use the same number. The Commie Party will use a number, the Freedom Party will use a number, etc. Block the first solicitation number you get and you won't get anymore texts.

iOS 17 has a nice feature that will allow you to silence unknown callers. If the number is not in your contacts list or in your recent calls list, it goes straight to voicemail and your phone doesn't even ring. My rule is, "if it's important and I don't answer, they can leave a message."

Two problems. First, they don't send all their spam from the same number. Blocking the number doesn't do much when they just move to a different one.

Second, blocking all unknown numbers is problematic when you need to receive a call or text message from an unknown number (specifically, an appliance repairman who's coming to fix the dryer).
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vdeane

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 13, 2024, 12:50:48 AMI mean, you don't have to do anything. What are they gonna do, research your past to make sure you didn't leave off any jobs? They have a thousand applicants; they don't have the time or
Often the form is only asked for of people who are being interviewed, and only looked at closely for the top candidate(s).  And due to the civil service system, there aren't a thousand (eligible) applicants.

The supervisor issue is magnified for anyone inside the state.  For outside candidates, you can just list the employer's phone number rather than the supervisor's (and private industry tends not to do more than confirm dates of employment for liability reasons), but for people who work for the state, looking up the supervisor's phone number in Outlook is trivial (although, come to think of it, newer versions of Outlook make looking up the supervisor itself trivial; that used to be a lot harder before Office 365).
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kkt

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 13, 2024, 08:30:02 PMDo they have a Commie Santa?


Yes, he's all dressed in Red, you know.

hbelkins

Quote from: 1995hoo on August 13, 2024, 08:59:40 PMecond, blocking all unknown numbers is problematic when you need to receive a call or text message from an unknown number (specifically, an appliance repairman who's coming to fix the dryer).

Not blocking unknown numbers, but silencing them.
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