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Started by FLRoads, January 20, 2009, 04:01:44 PM

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Dirt Roads

Quote from: 74/171FAN on June 25, 2024, 11:00:19 AMThe arrow pointed for NC 86 SB is following Manning Dr onto UNC's campus instead of heading south to NC 54.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220469256721958&set=a.10220469367924738)



Worse, the NC-86 sign was replaced sometime in late 2015 but the arrows were not corrected.  Note that the original NC-86 sign was all by itself, but the "straight" movement was then considered to be from Pittsboro Street towards NC-86 South. But after the NC-54 sign was added in 2014, the "straight" route feels more like heading towards UNC Hospital.


thenetwork

Quote from: Dirt Roads on June 25, 2024, 05:53:00 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on June 25, 2024, 11:00:19 AMThe arrow pointed for NC 86 SB is following Manning Dr onto UNC's campus instead of heading south to NC 54.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220469256721958&set=a.10220469367924738)



Worse, the NC-86 sign was replaced sometime in late 2015 but the arrows were not corrected.  Note that the original NC-86 sign was all by itself, but the "straight" movement was then considered to be from Pittsboro Street towards NC-86 South. But after the NC-54 sign was added in 2014, the "straight" route feels more like heading towards UNC Hospital.


Just a little unloosening of the straight-arrow screw(s) and a slight tilting of the sign should do the trick...

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ErmineNotyours

Seen on a travel video in Tucumcari, New Mexico.  That cross street is NOT a Divided Highway.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/mwjtqGXYyiHq8Ma29

74/171FAN

A "TO" banner that should not be there at the south/west end of SR 609 in Prince George County, VA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220515509678253&set=a.10220515748604226)



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wanderer2575

US-35's northern terminus at US-20 north of La Porte, IN.  The route shields should be posted with their own arrows -- I-94 is to the left, not both left and right.


jay8g

Quote from: Amaury on June 23, 2024, 06:44:23 PMI wonder if this counts, as it's not a problem with the sign itself, but the placement of it: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Bm34C6sjj2y6dLvH8

Washington State Route 150 runs along a few different locally named roads in Manson and Chelan. This particular section in the link above is East Johnson Avenue. At the intersection just ahead with North Sanders Street, Washington State Route 150 eastbound turns right on North Sanders Street (as also seen by the other sign ahead of the aforementioned sign showing WA 150 eastbound goes right: https://maps.app.goo.gl/hFm3zRSNVhmFkhgg6) and then turns left on East Woodin Avenue, where it forms a concurrency with US Route 97 Alternate northbound.

The sign in the first link above saying WA 150 eastbound left lane and US 97A southbound right lane is referring to these lanes AFTER you turn right on North Sanders Street: https://maps.app.goo.gl/oNPJ7tv3YBs7PKbm9

But where the sign is placed, it makes it seem like it's talking about the two lanes on East Johnson Avenue, which it isn't. Seems to me like the sign should be on North Sanders Street right after turning right. Or maybe add an additional smaller sign below the main sign, saying something like "After Right Turn."

Something like that is done along Washington State Route 18, where you have your standard Right Lane Ends signs, but in some areas, there's an additional sign that says "After Exit." Like here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/8jihBLgyLUyW3dgH9

It looks like both lanes can turn right at the first intersection (the all-way stop), so I'm guessing the sign was installed because they wanted people heading for SR 150 to use the left lane to turn right. The whole thing's a bit of a mess, though -- there are no signs to explicitly say you can turn right from the left lane (just the pavement markings) so it will get confusing if they aren't visible for some reason (like the heavy traffic that was there at the time of the Street View capture), the sign is placed before the second lane starts (adding to the confusion), and obviously, it shows SR 97A instead of US 97A. There's no mention of US 97A North until you get around the corner too. That whole area looks like a complete mess to navigate, and the signage is really not helping things.

Amaury

#5457
I didn't even notice the US/SR mix-up for the US 97A shield. Good catch!

I also missed the road marking on the ground showing the left lane can go left, straight, or right, so that makes it a little less confusing, at least to me, but that's because I know and am familiar with the area. So, it's not a problem for me, but overall, it still seems complicated. Until I noticed that, I always thought that only the right lane could turn right, which is what I do when I'm in the area, and then immediately go for the left lane after the turn, if I want to go to the Walmart in Chelan, for example.
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mrsman

Interesting.  It doesn't seem that confusing to me, but I agree that a sign showing the permissible lane markings would be helpful.  We can prevent accidents and close calls for people in both the left and the right lanes who may eventually want to make that turn to stay onto 150. 

Of course, also fix the state/US mixup and make known on the sign that US 97A north is also accessible from the left lane.

EAST     SOUTH
150      97A
NORTH
97A
LEFT      RIGHT
LANE      LANE

jeffandnicole

It appears the right turn from the left lane is fairly new:  The markings in the 2018 GSV show the left lane can only be used for left and straight traffic.  Unless that street jams up from people turning right, it appears to add an unneeded complexity, rather than traffic in the right lane turning right then freely choosing the lane they need to be in.

Amaury

Here's a good one that I hope someone from WSDOT notices and fixes. This should be US 395 "NORTH," not "west." I can understand mixing up US and state route shields, but directionality?



This is on Interstate 90 eastbound, just before milepost 271. The sign had needed repairs for a while, as it is not seen in Google Maps' captures from June 2023, the latest one, and August 2022, but is seen in the September 2021 capture before that, where the directionality is CORRECT: https://maps.app.goo.gl/fyK4Vhyw9mZDEZzF8 So, this signpost and these signs were recently installed with this error.
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roadman65

#5461
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53874169583
The ramp on the right for I-75 NB is not the next following right turn. It's beyond the second signal way off in a distance.  I actually turned right into the second stoplight roadway that IS DEFINITELY NOT A RAMP but a driveway into a tourist trap.  Actually a sprawl road that serves more than Bass Pro now.

I'm guessing the I-75 & US 41 interchange was reconfigured and the ramp got relocated, but the project manager didn't think of checking the area out thoroughly for other signs referencing the old configuration.

Edit: GSV shows the original configuration was a cloverleaf with I-75 and Bass Pro got accessed via a previous frontage road.  Plus a motel stood where the new access road is now aligned.
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roadfro

Quote from: roadman65 on July 23, 2024, 11:56:23 AMhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53874169583
The ramp on the right for I-75 NB is not the next following right turn. It's beyond the second signal way off in a distance.  I actually turned right into the second stoplight roadway that IS DEFINITELY NOT A RAMP but a driveway into a tourist trap.  Actually a sprawl road that serves more than Bass Pro now.

I'm guessing the I-75 & US 41 interchange was reconfigured and the ramp got relocated, but the project manager didn't think of checking the area out thoroughly for other signs referencing the old configuration.

Edit: GSV shows the original configuration was a cloverleaf with I-75 and Bass Pro got accessed via a previous frontage road.  Plus a motel stood where the new access road is now aligned.
Not sure without more context, but if the turn to I-75 north is the second signal in the distance then this sign isn't necessarily erroneous. That's an advance turn arrow, meant to signify that you're not supposed to take the next turn but the one after.
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74/171FAN

#5463
Well I-94 WB at Conner Ave (Exit 220B) in Detroit has at least one error, but Google Maps seems to indicate more.

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220672879452399&set=a.10220673028936136)

https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjBC4P3

In the meantime, I found this on US 127 NB between US 12 and US 223.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220673024656029&set=a.10220673028936136)

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hotdogPi

You can't see it just by looking at the photo, but WA 520 was closed at the time this photo was taken. "23 minutes" should be "impossible".

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TheCatalyst31

Either WisDOT is experimenting with lettered state highways, or Walworth County accidentally upgraded County Highway G to a state highway: https://maps.app.goo.gl/XDnEeUxbRvbaLyKWA

I drove through that intersection today, and despite all the construction in the area and new detour signage they still haven't fixed that one. I figured it was just an error with a temporary sign until I checked GSV.

WillWeaverRVA

Quote from: TheCatalyst31 on August 17, 2024, 10:18:26 PMEither WisDOT is experimenting with lettered state highways, or Walworth County accidentally upgraded County Highway G to a state highway: https://maps.app.goo.gl/XDnEeUxbRvbaLyKWA

I drove through that intersection today, and despite all the construction in the area and new detour signage they still haven't fixed that one. I figured it was just an error with a temporary sign until I checked GSV.
Reminds me of the US A error in Kansas.
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roadman65

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6K48pXbsrS729A4o7
N-61 heads both ways across this intersection and not just to the right as the shields say. Plus the US 26 shield should have a TO banner as that route is two miles away.

I believe this is holdover from when Spruce Street was state maintained and carried both US 26 and N-61 through Ogallala.  When the state relinquished the route to the city, they didn't do a sign check and still remains.
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mglass87

Somehow, this sign was installed facing the wrong direction:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/XEsDVe2vTe1Myazp7

roadman65

#5471
https://maps.app.goo.gl/c67aGznichr1KKXh8
The sign for SB US 1-9 and WB US 46 implies that both directions of I-95 are reached by using those routes. 

Fact is I-80 begins its westward trek from I-95. So it's lack of WEST banner is okay as well as lack of cardinal direction for the NJ Turnpike as it only goes south here is in addition okay as is, but I-95 NB has no ramp from US 46 and has its very own ramp from the end of US 9W by continuing straight on Fletcher to the I-95 service road.

Also US 46 is concurrent with US 1-9 not accessed by it as the TO banner indicates.
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roadman65

https://maps.app.goo.gl/YTPhJneGS4Sn5Hke6
This Railroad Grade Crossing that the overhead warning sign ( with active flashers) that is informing motorists about, is been completely removed.

Obviously NJDOT forgot to remove it and still remains.
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Rothman

Quote from: roadman65 on August 30, 2024, 01:49:27 PMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/YTPhJneGS4Sn5Hke6
This Railroad Grade Crossing that the overhead warning sign ( with active flashers) that is informing motorists about, is been completely removed.

Obviously NJDOT forgot to remove it and still remains.

Could be the former railroad's responsibility.
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