Minor things that bother you

[kphoger]

With a 2FA account login process, in which you first supply a username and password and then a token passcode after that...  If you mistype your password, is it better to be told your password is wrong before or after you're prompted for the token passcode?  It annoys me when I go through both steps before finding out the first step was wrong.

[jeffandnicole]

With a 2FA account login process, in which you first supply a username and password and then a token passcode after that...  If you mistype your password, is it better to be told your password is wrong before or after you're prompted for the token passcode?  It annoys me when I go through both steps before finding out the first step was wrong.

Any 2FA I have, I can't get to #2 before successfully doing #1.

[kphoger]

I can't get to #2 before successfully doing #1.

Pooing is cool.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

I can't get to #2 before successfully doing #1.

Pooing is cool.

Because it bips.

[1995hoo]

We have a very obvious "No Soliciting" sign on our front door. Some salesman just rang the doorbell anyway and then, when we didn't answer, opened the storm door and started knocking on the main door. He eventually left when we still didn't answer (he could probably see the light on in the ground-level basement where I have a TV on), but I had this urge to go upstairs, open the living room window, and yell down to ask what part of "No Soliciting" was unclear to him.

[webny99]

We have a very obvious "No Soliciting" sign on our front door. Some salesman just rang the doorbell anyway and then, when we didn't answer, opened the storm door and started knocking on the main door. He eventually left when we still didn't answer (he could probably see the light on in the ground-level basement where I have a TV on), but I had this urge to go upstairs, open the living room window, and yell down to ask what part of "No Soliciting" was unclear to him.

Any type of door to door soliciting these days is just sad. The answer to what they didn't understand is probably that they did understand but were just so desperate they didn't care.

But beyond that, why was it bothersome if you weren't going to answer anyways? Engaging with solicitors is exactly what the sign is supposed to prevent, so doing so would have defeated the purpose of the sign (and justified the solicitor by getting you to engage).

[Big John]

[Scott5114]

We have a very obvious "No Soliciting" sign on our front door. Some salesman just rang the doorbell anyway and then, when we didn't answer, opened the storm door and started knocking on the main door. He eventually left when we still didn't answer (he could probably see the light on in the ground-level basement where I have a TV on), but I had this urge to go upstairs, open the living room window, and yell down to ask what part of "No Soliciting" was unclear to him.

Any type of door to door soliciting these days is just sad. The answer to what they didn't understand is probably that they did understand but were just so desperate they didn't care.

But beyond that, why was it bothersome if you weren't going to answer anyways? Engaging with solicitors is exactly what the sign is supposed to prevent, so doing so would have defeated the purpose of the sign (and justified the solicitor by getting you to engage).

We had a No Soliciting sign (red 2" tall Series D lettering, front and center on the storm door) and we still had someone knock on the door one afternoon. The reason we didn't want anyone knocking on the door was because my wife worked from 11pm to 7am at the time, so she was in bed trying to sleep. She got up, answered the door, and read them the riot act in her pajamas. (The entire conversation was about the No Soliciting sign, so they didn't even get a chance to talk to her about whatever it was they wanted out of her anyway.)

[webny99]

But beyond that, why was it bothersome if you weren't going to answer anyways? Engaging with solicitors is exactly what the sign is supposed to prevent, so doing so would have defeated the purpose of the sign (and justified the solicitor by getting you to engage).

We had a No Soliciting sign (red 2" tall Series D lettering, front and center on the storm door) and we still had someone knock on the door one afternoon. The reason we didn't want anyone knocking on the door was because my wife worked from 11pm to 7am at the time, so she was in bed trying to sleep. She got up, answered the door, and read them the riot act in her pajamas. (The entire conversation was about the No Soliciting sign, so they didn't even get a chance to talk to her about whatever it was they wanted out of her anyway.)

I guess my point was that the presence of a No Soliciting sign doesn't necessarily stop solicitors, but it should at least remove the expectation that the door will be answered for anyone that tries.

Back when I was in school, I was going door to door for a school fundraiser and woke a man up once. I knew because he came to the door shirtless in pajama pants and told us he was trying to sleep. He wasn't rude or anything, and he didn't have a No Soliciting sign, but I still felt pretty dumb about it. I also wouldn't have expected anyone to answer the door from a dead sleep. I certainly wouldn't have, or I'd have at least dawdled getting dressed in hopes they'd leave before I got to the door (no one needs to see me shirtless in pajama pants, not even solicitors.. except maybe as a scare tactic )

[webny99]

I can't get to #2 before successfully doing #1.

Pooing is cool.

Thanks, now I can't stop giggling at the alternative interpretation of jeffandnicole's post.

[formulanone]

...also, $49.99 for the first second.

* Exceptions may be made for Girl Scout cookies, though they typically discourage those kinds of sales nowadays. At least they did for my daughter's troop.

[kernals12]

Open plan kitchens. The noise makes it impossible to watch TV

[Rothman]

We have a very obvious "No Soliciting" sign on our front door. Some salesman just rang the doorbell anyway and then, when we didn't answer, opened the storm door and started knocking on the main door. He eventually left when we still didn't answer (he could probably see the light on in the ground-level basement where I have a TV on), but I had this urge to go upstairs, open the living room window, and yell down to ask what part of "No Soliciting" was unclear to him.

Any type of door to door soliciting these days is just sad. The answer to what they didn't understand is probably that they did understand but were just so desperate they didn't care.

But beyond that, why was it bothersome if you weren't going to answer anyways? Engaging with solicitors is exactly what the sign is supposed to prevent, so doing so would have defeated the purpose of the sign (and justified the solicitor by getting you to engage).

We had a No Soliciting sign (red 2" tall Series D lettering, front and center on the storm door) and we still had someone knock on the door one afternoon. The reason we didn't want anyone knocking on the door was because my wife worked from 11pm to 7am at the time, so she was in bed trying to sleep. She got up, answered the door, and read them the riot act in her pajamas. (The entire conversation was about the No Soliciting sign, so they didn't even get a chance to talk to her about whatever it was they wanted out of her anyway.)

"No Soliciting" also technically only pertains to salespeople.  Doesn't cover missionaries and the like.

[Molandfreak]

[Scott5114]

"No Soliciting" also technically only pertains to salespeople.  Doesn't cover missionaries and the like.

It means whatever the property owner thinks it means. I think that's what the person who knocked at the door tried to argue—I seem to remember it was a political operative.

This defense did not get them not yelled at, it did not get them a chance to talk to my wife about their candidate, and I think she specifically voted against that candidate for waking her up (which was one of the things she yelled at the person at the door).

[hotdogPi]

I think she specifically voted against that candidate for waking her up (which was one of the things she yelled at the person at the door).

Just be aware that people have pretended to be supporting the opponent this way, at least with phone calls.

[JayhawkCO]

Open plan kitchens. The noise makes it impossible to watch TV

Just don't slaughter live animals in the kitchen and it's not so loud.

[Max Rockatansky]

Open plan kitchens. The noise makes it impossible to watch TV

Just don't slaughter live animals in the kitchen and it's not so loud.

Ideally you take them to the corral first and break them down a bit there.

[Rothman]

"No Soliciting" also technically only pertains to salespeople.  Doesn't cover missionaries and the like.

It means whatever the property owner thinks it means.

Words have meaning.

[Scott5114]

"No Soliciting" also technically only pertains to salespeople.  Doesn't cover missionaries and the like.

It means whatever the property owner thinks it means.

Words have meaning.

The words shouted at the person on the doorstep sure did.

[Rothman]

"No Soliciting" also technically only pertains to salespeople.  Doesn't cover missionaries and the like.

It means whatever the property owner thinks it means.

Words have meaning.

The words shouted at the person on the doorstep sure did.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure what shouting does at a single person that is most likely not going to come to your door ever again.  Knocking on doors is a dull task, anyway, so it's just on to the next door.

[Scott5114]

"No Soliciting" also technically only pertains to salespeople.  Doesn't cover missionaries and the like.

It means whatever the property owner thinks it means.

Words have meaning.

The words shouted at the person on the doorstep sure did.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure what shouting does at a single person that is most likely not going to come to your door ever again.  Knocking on doors is a dull task, anyway, so it's just on to the next door.

Makes that person more likely to think twice when they see a "No Soliciting" sign. You never know who's on the other side of that door or why they put the sign up...this was Oklahoma, so the next homeowner they bothered might have been armed.

And it made my wife feel better, so there's that.

[Rothman]

"No Soliciting" also technically only pertains to salespeople.  Doesn't cover missionaries and the like.

It means whatever the property owner thinks it means.

Words have meaning.

The words shouted at the person on the doorstep sure did.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure what shouting does at a single person that is most likely not going to come to your door ever again.  Knocking on doors is a dull task, anyway, so it's just on to the next door.

Makes that person more likely to think twice when they see a "No Soliciting" sign.

Not one bit.  Organized door knockers are trained to knock on such marked doors.

I suppose if someone were on their own just wanting to talk to people, rather than a part of a church or other organization, they might reconsider.

[Scott5114]

Not one bit.  Organized door knockers are trained to knock on such marked doors.

When I had a customer service job I was trained to do a lot of things that I didn't do because it pissed off customers.

Besides, if your goal is to get people to actually do something—buy something or vote or become your religion or whatever—you are going to be able to achieve your goals more readily if you don't waste time knocking on doors that don't want to be knocked on. The path of least resistance is the one most easily clinched.

[Rothman]

Not one bit.  Organized door knockers are trained to knock on such marked doors.

When I had a customer service job I was trained to do a lot of things that I didn't do because it pissed off customers.

Besides, if your goal is to get people to actually do something—buy something or vote or become your religion or whatever—you are going to be able to achieve your goals more readily if you don't waste time knocking on doors that don't want to be knocked on. The path of least resistance is the one most easily clinched.

You're assuming everyone with a No Soliciting sign yells at or turns away door knockers.  That's not the case.