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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: 1995hoo on March 10, 2025, 10:57:19 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 10, 2025, 07:39:05 AMI don't particularly care that my home appears on Google Street View.  Although I find some irony that on a forum where privacy is highly valued that so many are hostile about a small percentage of people not wanting their homes visible. 

I find it mildly amusing that I can look back at the old Street View of our house (there are only two images available) and I can tell the Google car came through during a particular five-day period in October 2012 because my wife's car was parked in the driveway and in those days it was never parked in the driveway except during that particular week when we had gone to Ohio for a family matter.

Some of the images for Scottsdale have me driving around in my Camaro.  Likewise there is some from Hanford, CA which have me in my Sonic.


Max Rockatansky

Quote from: kernals12 on March 10, 2025, 10:38:12 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 10, 2025, 07:52:06 AMLos Angeles still gets some people using the freeway names over numbers.  The most I've heard it is in reference to the Ventura Freeway and Arroyo Seco Parkway.

The Ventura Freeway name is needed because if you say "The 101" you could be talking about the Hollywood Freeway

Nobody ever talks about the poor ole Santa Ana Freeway unless it involves I-5.

kphoger

Quote from: Scott5114 on March 09, 2025, 08:23:10 PMOklahoma has a section of highway named after the current President in the Panhandle. While the President has been to Oklahoma a few times during primaries, as far as I know he's never had any reason to go to Cimarron County.

He is way less polarizing than Ronald Reagan.


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vdeane

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 10, 2025, 07:39:05 AMI don't particularly care that my home appears on Google Street View.  Although I find some irony that on a forum where privacy is highly valued that so many are hostile about a small percentage of people not wanting their homes visible. 
To me, an image of one's house being on street view is very different from things like selling your car's data to insurance companies or the state tracking your every move via automated license plate readers.  Anyone can just drive by your house and see it; if you wouldn't be happy with the general public looking at it on Google Maps, why are you fine with people walking/driving by it and seeing it in person?  Unless you live in a small town where everyone knows everyone else, it's just as publicly visible to complete strangers.  And I think it's safe to say that people here don't want their ability to use street view curtailed.  I genuinely don't remember how I used to navigate without it.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

roadman65

We took things by chance. Remember when we didn't have the GPS to inform us where traffic is?  We took a chance and accepted the traffic.
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: vdeane on March 10, 2025, 12:54:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 10, 2025, 07:39:05 AMI don't particularly care that my home appears on Google Street View.  Although I find some irony that on a forum where privacy is highly valued that so many are hostile about a small percentage of people not wanting their homes visible. 
To me, an image of one's house being on street view is very different from things like selling your car's data to insurance companies or the state tracking your every move via automated license plate readers.  Anyone can just drive by your house and see it; if you wouldn't be happy with the general public looking at it on Google Maps, why are you fine with people walking/driving by it and seeing it in person?  Unless you live in a small town where everyone knows everyone else, it's just as publicly visible to complete strangers.  And I think it's safe to say that people here don't want their ability to use street view curtailed.  I genuinely don't remember how I used to navigate without it.

I get all that.  I'm just pointing out that some people on this forum go to great lengths to protect their own privacy.  A lot of it seems equally as superficial (at least to me) given this is a small hobby.  Just felt off to see the contradiction and so many people jumping on the bandwagon of having issues with home owners. 

Nowadays the lack of a GSV image on a roadway tends to be more enticing.  What is so potentially ominous or exciting that the Google Car avoided a roadway? 

kphoger

Quote from: vdeane on March 10, 2025, 12:54:25 PMAnd I think it's safe to say that people here don't want their ability to use street view curtailed.  I genuinely don't remember how I used to navigate without it.
Quote from: roadman65 on March 10, 2025, 01:04:49 PMWe took things by chance. Remember when we didn't have the GPS to inform us where traffic is?  We took a chance and accepted the traffic.

Back in the mid-200s, I took a job as a delivery driver in the southern Illinois region.  I had just moved to the area.  My normal route would run about 300 miles, hitting about 20 or 30 customers in at least a dozen towns.  Nobody back then had a smartphone, we had paper tickets, and half the tickets had the billing address instead of the delivery address.  I was fortunate that most of my customers were schools and hospitals and such, so they were easier to find than smaller establishments.  But still.  I'd guess my way and stop for directions if needed.

A couple of years ago, I was on a church mission trip in Boulder, CO.  Our main mission was at the church we were staying at, but another one was 7½ miles away.  One day, I was the driver for a group going to that other work site.  I had only been there once, and I had not previously been to Boulder at all before this trip.  I didn't remember the name of the place, nor its address, but I was pretty sure I remembered how to get there from someone else driving the day before.  I immediately missed a turn, then realized it a half-mile later.  So I just trusted my instincts, turned wherever it "felt right", and eventually got there just fine.  Once I was in familiar territory and approaching our destination, I had the thought: This is how we ALWAYS used to get around.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

roadman65

Sad to say the Baby Boomers and Gen X both have forgotten their previous survival skills.  The millennial will never know how society functioned unfortunately.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

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JayhawkCO

Quote from: roadman65 on March 10, 2025, 01:55:35 PMSad to say the Baby Boomers and Gen X both have forgotten their previous survival skills.  The millennial will never know how society functioned unfortunately.

This Millennial does. (Born in '82.)

dlsterner

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 10, 2025, 11:06:23 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 10, 2025, 10:57:19 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 10, 2025, 07:39:05 AMI don't particularly care that my home appears on Google Street View.  Although I find some irony that on a forum where privacy is highly valued that so many are hostile about a small percentage of people not wanting their homes visible. 

I find it mildly amusing that I can look back at the old Street View of our house (there are only two images available) and I can tell the Google car came through during a particular five-day period in October 2012 because my wife's car was parked in the driveway and in those days it was never parked in the driveway except during that particular week when we had gone to Ohio for a family matter.

Some of the images for Scottsdale have me driving around in my Camaro.  Likewise there is some from Hanford, CA which have me in my Sonic.

Along those same lines, I found it mildly amusing to see my (previous) car on Google Street View - 1000 miles from my home, parked in my mother's driveway during a winter vacation.

kphoger

If those public restroom tri-fold paper towels were 50% larger, then I'd only use one instead of two.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Scott5114

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 10, 2025, 07:39:05 AMI don't particularly care that my home appears on Google Street View.  Although I find some irony that on a forum where privacy is highly valued that so many are hostile about a small percentage of people not wanting their homes visible. 

Your right to privacy doesn't extend to what the outside of your house looks like. After all, anybody strolling down the sidewalk would be able to see that.

Blurring the house actually calls more attention to it because I always wonder what it is they're trying to hide—is it a particularly cool-looking house or something? So then (assuming I have the time and inclination) I try a few different angles to see if Google forgot to blur one, or look it up on the county assessor's site, just to see what is being hidden. And it's nearly always an ordinary house I would have paid no attention to were it not blurred.
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formulanone

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Quote from: Rothman on March 09, 2025, 08:33:13 PMNo one has brought up all the MLK, Jr. streets?

For some reason, I don't care about the one in Texas, but it will always be National Airport to me.

See, I'd never known it as anything else, since I hadn't been near it until twenty years ago. One day I just realized there was a Reagan Airport, said "ok" and moved on. I suppose the factor is that you've got 2-3 airports in the area and you might have to clarify it in discussion, but little more. Or you can just use the identifier and shrug it off.

Gotta admit, having a "National Airport" in a land of several dozen "International Airports" doesn't do it much of a favor.

thenetwork

Quote from: Big John on March 10, 2025, 09:49:43 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2025, 09:21:52 AM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on March 09, 2025, 08:37:13 PM
Quote from: ZLoth on March 09, 2025, 08:33:49 PMUnless it's explicitly slated in the name (e.g. President George Bush Turnpike, Sam Rayburn Tollway), I wouldn't know the freeway names around DFW. I believe I-635 is the LBJ Freeway and a portion of I-30 in Arlington near Cowboys stadium is called the "Tom Landy Freeway", but I'm still referring to it as the actual route number.

I would say outside of the NYC and Chicago areas, very few interstates are called by anything other than their route numbers. Certainly no one here in Colorado calls I-25 through Denver the "Valley Highway". The only real exceptions I can think of are certain turnpikes (Mass, Thruway, Kansas, etc.).

I'm going to guess I-76 is probably the longest continous highway that many never use the I-number for.

Starting in Ohio, going east, at I-80 to the PA Border it'll be known as the Ohio Turnpike. Then it'll be the Pennsylvania Turnpike, then the Schuylkill Expressway, then the Walt Whitman Bridge, then either the North-South Freeway or Rt. 42. (locals & traffic reporters around Philly/NJ tend to call I-76's short NJ section Rt. 42, which doesn't actually begin until I-295).

"I-76" never really is mentioned due to the widely known names of the highway for most of its eastern roadway.
Does this also include the western I-76?

No. All the freeways in the Denver Metro area are known as their route numbers...EXCEPT for US-36, which is still referred to as the Boulder Turnpike most of the time.

thenetwork

Quote from: webny99 on March 10, 2025, 10:13:06 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2025, 09:21:52 AMI'm going to guess I-76 is probably the longest continous highway that many never use the I-number for.

Starting in Ohio, going east, at I-80 to the PA Border it'll be known as the Ohio Turnpike. Then it'll be the Pennsylvania Turnpike, then the Schuylkill Expressway, then the Walt Whitman Bridge, then either the North-South Freeway or Rt. 42. (locals & traffic reporters around Philly/NJ tend to call I-76's short NJ section Rt. 42, which doesn't actually begin until I-295).

"I-76" never really is mentioned due to the widely known names of the highway for most of its eastern roadway.

The one exception to this would be west of the I-76/I-80 bump west of Youngstown. Ohioans can correct me here, but it doesn't appear to have any other formal name between its western terminus at I-71 and I-80.

Edit: unless you are not counting that as "continuous" because it switches to a different roadway at that point.

Actually, I-76 in Akron is referred to locally by the freeway names:

● Between SR-8 and SR-91 -- The "East Leg" of the Expressway.
● Along the I-77 duplex -- The "West Leg" of the Expressway.
● Between I-77 and I-277/US-224 -- The "Kenmore Leg".

1995hoo

Quote from: Scott5114 on March 10, 2025, 06:38:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 10, 2025, 07:39:05 AMI don't particularly care that my home appears on Google Street View.  Although I find some irony that on a forum where privacy is highly valued that so many are hostile about a small percentage of people not wanting their homes visible. 

Your right to privacy doesn't extend to what the outside of your house looks like. After all, anybody strolling down the sidewalk would be able to see that.

Blurring the house actually calls more attention to it because I always wonder what it is they're trying to hide—is it a particularly cool-looking house or something? So then (assuming I have the time and inclination) I try a few different angles to see if Google forgot to blur one, or look it up on the county assessor's site, just to see what is being hidden. And it's nearly always an ordinary house I would have paid no attention to were it not blurred.

I remember a few years ago when Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked at home, the national news reports were all coming from outside and you could see the street signs. So I looked it up on Google Street View and found the house was blurred there. Didn't seem to be much point in blurring it after everyone saw the house on the national news. (The Obamas' house in DC is not blurred and the Bidens' house in Delaware is too far back from the road for it to matter.)
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JayhawkCO

Quote from: thenetwork on March 10, 2025, 07:03:26 PM
Quote from: Big John on March 10, 2025, 09:49:43 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2025, 09:21:52 AM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on March 09, 2025, 08:37:13 PM
Quote from: ZLoth on March 09, 2025, 08:33:49 PMUnless it's explicitly slated in the name (e.g. President George Bush Turnpike, Sam Rayburn Tollway), I wouldn't know the freeway names around DFW. I believe I-635 is the LBJ Freeway and a portion of I-30 in Arlington near Cowboys stadium is called the "Tom Landy Freeway", but I'm still referring to it as the actual route number.

I would say outside of the NYC and Chicago areas, very few interstates are called by anything other than their route numbers. Certainly no one here in Colorado calls I-25 through Denver the "Valley Highway". The only real exceptions I can think of are certain turnpikes (Mass, Thruway, Kansas, etc.).

I'm going to guess I-76 is probably the longest continous highway that many never use the I-number for.

Starting in Ohio, going east, at I-80 to the PA Border it'll be known as the Ohio Turnpike. Then it'll be the Pennsylvania Turnpike, then the Schuylkill Expressway, then the Walt Whitman Bridge, then either the North-South Freeway or Rt. 42. (locals & traffic reporters around Philly/NJ tend to call I-76's short NJ section Rt. 42, which doesn't actually begin until I-295).

"I-76" never really is mentioned due to the widely known names of the highway for most of its eastern roadway.
Does this also include the western I-76?

No. All the freeways in the Denver Metro area are known as their route numbers...EXCEPT for US-36, which is still referred to as the Boulder Turnpike most of the time.

I don't know anyone that calls it that. They just call it "36".

kkt

Quote from: kphoger on March 10, 2025, 01:43:24 PM
Quote from: vdeane on March 10, 2025, 12:54:25 PMAnd I think it's safe to say that people here don't want their ability to use street view curtailed.  I genuinely don't remember how I used to navigate without it.
Quote from: roadman65 on March 10, 2025, 01:04:49 PMWe took things by chance. Remember when we didn't have the GPS to inform us where traffic is?  We took a chance and accepted the traffic.

Back in the mid-200s, I took a job as a delivery driver in the southern Illinois region.  I had just moved to the area.  My normal route would run about 300 miles, hitting about 20 or 30 customers in at least a dozen towns.  Nobody back then had a smartphone, we had paper tickets, and half the tickets had the billing address instead of the delivery address.  I was fortunate that most of my customers were schools and hospitals and such, so they were easier to find than smaller establishments.  But still.  I'd guess my way and stop for directions if needed.

A couple of years ago, I was on a church mission trip in Boulder, CO.  Our main mission was at the church we were staying at, but another one was 7½ miles away.  One day, I was the driver for a group going to that other work site.  I had only been there once, and I had not previously been to Boulder at all before this trip.  I didn't remember the name of the place, nor its address, but I was pretty sure I remembered how to get there from someone else driving the day before.  I immediately missed a turn, then realized it a half-mile later.  So I just trusted my instincts, turned wherever it "felt right", and eventually got there just fine.  Once I was in familiar territory and approaching our destination, I had the thought: This is how we ALWAYS used to get around.

We had paper maps as a backup in case we got hopelessly lost.  But, yes, there was maybe more attention paid to what the route looked like so you could follow it again later.

kphoger

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Quote from: kkt on March 11, 2025, 02:40:19 AMWe had paper maps as a backup in case we got hopelessly lost.  But, yes, there was maybe more attention paid to what the route looked like so you could follow it again later.

I remember a road trip with my dad, and we had to change highways in some town.  One line came into the black dot from one direction, another line came out of the black dot in another direction.  Problem:  those two highways didn't actually intersect each other, and a connection on a third road was necessary.  That's one advantage of online maps.

I also remember that we had a nationwide street atlas on CD-ROM back in the 1990s.  It labeled OK-136 between the Kansas state line and US-64 as also being CH-24.  On a family vacation, I wrote out the directions ahead of time and identified that route as CH-24—because it was easier to remember than OK-136, especially considering it was a continuation of KS-25.  Problem:  there are no CH-24 signs anywhere on that highway in the real world.  My mom was concerned and kept asking me if we were on the wrong road.  It's an advantage to be able to see actual signage in GSV.

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
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Male pronouns, please.

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kphoger

Quote from: ZLoth on January 30, 2025, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 30, 2025, 02:23:28 PMOn one of those, I'm double-prompted to enter my username and password:  I enter them once on a popup screen, then I get directed to another screen where I have to enter them again.  One day, I entered an old password on the first prompt, and it worked just fine.  So now, for the past year or two, I just hit random keys on the keyboard for my 'password' on that first screen, because it's pointless.  And if it doesn't matter, then why prompt me for my password to begin with?

Sounds like the provider's login system was initially configured without a Single Sign In (SSO) integration, and the SSO was added at a later date. The login process is first checking the domain to see if it configured for the SSO, and if so, the login redirects to your organization's identity management system. Once your login is validated, a SAML (Security Assertion Markup Language) assertion is passed back to the provider's system saying that you are validated. That SAML assertion can contain name, email address, and identifying values, but not your password for security reasons.

This morning, I accidentally X-ed out of that first login popup screen.  (I thought it was an unnecessary popup for a different program I was launching at the same time, didn't realize my mistake till I'd already click on the [ X ].)  Nevertheless, I was sent to the 'real' login screen and was able to log in successfully.  So I guess that popup login screen is completely unnecessary.


He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

kphoger

In ancient Greek philosophy, they used to prove the existence of God by illustrating how orderly the world is and, basically, how everything makes sense.  Let me tell you, those philosophers must never have had an infection in their throat that made one of their eyes water constantly.  Tell me how that makes sense, will you!  My eyes aren't what's sick!

(Yes, I know the medical reason.)

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

mgk920

Quote from: kernals12 on March 10, 2025, 10:38:12 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 10, 2025, 07:52:06 AMLos Angeles still gets some people using the freeway names over numbers.  The most I've heard it is in reference to the Ventura Freeway and Arroyo Seco Parkway.

The Ventura Freeway name is needed because if you say "The 101" you could be talking about the Hollywood Freeway

Well, the people in Thousand Oaks, CA do call it 'The 101'

Mike

DTComposer

Quote from: mgk920 on March 11, 2025, 01:28:23 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on March 10, 2025, 10:38:12 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 10, 2025, 07:52:06 AMLos Angeles still gets some people using the freeway names over numbers.  The most I've heard it is in reference to the Ventura Freeway and Arroyo Seco Parkway.

The Ventura Freeway name is needed because if you say "The 101" you could be talking about the Hollywood Freeway

Well, the people in Thousand Oaks, CA do call it 'The 101'

Mike

If you say "Ventura Freeway," you could also be talking about the 134. Similarly, if you say "Hollywood Freeway" you could be talking about the 170.

Most of the time context clues (specifically, an exit or city/neighborhood) will tell you what part of the freeway someone meant. It was a rarity for me to hear references to freeway names instead of numbers unless it was on traffic reports.

It should also be noted that if the freeway name was "needed" then Caltrans wouldn't be removing the names when replacing signage.

formulanone

Quote from: mgk920 on March 11, 2025, 01:28:23 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on March 10, 2025, 10:38:12 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 10, 2025, 07:52:06 AMLos Angeles still gets some people using the freeway names over numbers.  The most I've heard it is in reference to the Ventura Freeway and Arroyo Seco Parkway.

The Ventura Freeway name is needed because if you say "The 101" you could be talking about the Hollywood Freeway

Well, the people in Thousand Oaks, CA do call it 'The 101'

Mike

I was disappointed to find out the locals didn't call it "The Hundred One".

kernals12

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