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Started by US71, October 11, 2017, 09:09:35 PM

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TBKS1

Quote from: jnewkirk77 on March 17, 2025, 09:30:32 PMARDOT posted a video earlier today and 57, 67 and 167 were all three signed ...

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AaJbsGmFd/

That is literally where I took that above photo. They removed the US 67/167 shields.
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ilpt4u

Quote from: edwaleni on March 17, 2025, 08:35:40 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on March 17, 2025, 05:07:59 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on March 17, 2025, 04:27:09 PMUPDATE 17 MARCH 2025

The first I-57 shields have officially gone up! Photo taken near Kiehl Avenue / Exit 5 in Sherwood.


Did ArDOT pour a concrete pad for that shield post?!? A little overkill?

See what it replaced.


Easier to see from the GSV on the Frontage/Service Road. No concrete pad, just sign posts in the dirt for the old signs

https://maps.app.goo.gl/vvtW8GDqfEJFuExJA

Molandfreak

I guess US 78 really is ArDOT's favorite highway.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PMAASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

Strider

Quote from: TBKS1 on March 17, 2025, 09:32:40 PM
Quote from: jnewkirk77 on March 17, 2025, 09:30:32 PMARDOT posted a video earlier today and 57, 67 and 167 were all three signed ...

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AaJbsGmFd/

That is literally where I took that above photo. They removed the US 67/167 shields.

I guess they removed US 67/167 shields because based on the video link, it looks weird. But someone mentioned it is Arkansas' practice to unsign US routes along Interstate overlap. Maybe US 67/167 will be signed on the overhead signage?

RoadWarrior56

#1354
I saw an ARDOT video posted on Facebook yesterday that showed the erection of a new I-57 shield with the two US Highway sheids alongside it.  So I am not sure US 67, etc are going to be hidden, at least not everywhere.  I posted the link below.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=493507923826616

PColumbus73

Guess the Facebook video with all three shields was just a photo op then?

ilpt4u

#1356
Quote from: PColumbus73 on March 18, 2025, 08:23:12 AMGuess the Facebook video with all three shields was just a photo op then?
Might explain the concrete pad and changable sign post mounting kit on the concrete pad

Quote from: RoadWarrior56 on March 18, 2025, 06:29:52 AMI saw an ARDOT video posted on Facebook yesterday that showed the erection of a new I-57 shield with the two US Highway sheids alongside it.  So I am not sure US 67, etc are going to be hidden, at least not everywhere.  I posted the link below.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=493507923826616
And that triple-shield sign was erected on the same concrete pad and same location as the pictured single 57 shield. Something changed

MikieTimT

#1357
Just checked the IDriveArkansas traffic cams for Kiehl Ave. and only see the lone I-57 shield, not the concurrent US highway shields.  Looks like they've still got the AR-440 BGS up as well, so I wonder when they're going to be swapping that out for I-440.

Checking the IDriveArkansas traffic cams between Beebe and Bald Knob still shows the triplex shields, so they will be a few days likely in the Jacksonville area before heading northward.

Scott5114

Pouring a concrete pad for a sign base is standard procedure in a lot of states, since it allows the installation of a breakaway device (that triangular thing) at the base. Seen plenty of instances of that in other states. Not really unusual, just an upgrade from the U-channel posts that were there before.
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ilpt4u

Quote from: Scott5114 on March 18, 2025, 10:39:30 AMPouring a concrete pad for a sign base is standard procedure in a lot of states, since it allows the installation of a breakaway device (that triangular thing) at the base. Seen plenty of instances of that in other states. Not really unusual, just an upgrade from the U-channel posts that were there before.
And IDOT typically uses wooden posts dug into the ground.

More than 1 way to skin the cat of sign posts...

Scott5114

Quote from: ilpt4u on March 18, 2025, 10:45:24 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 18, 2025, 10:39:30 AMPouring a concrete pad for a sign base is standard procedure in a lot of states, since it allows the installation of a breakaway device (that triangular thing) at the base. Seen plenty of instances of that in other states. Not really unusual, just an upgrade from the U-channel posts that were there before.
And IDOT typically uses wooden posts dug into the ground.

More than 1 way to skin the cat of sign posts...

You should see what Nevada does any time a sign needs two posts. We like to be extra.
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TBKS1

Hey everyone! Little bit of an update, but numerous I-57 shields are now going up in Sherwood where I live, including a couple of assemblies featuring the US 67-167 overlap.




Even managed to snag a photo of one of those shields while it was being installed!
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yakra

Quote from: MikieTimT on August 16, 2024, 05:19:03 PMArkansas is pushing to get I-57 signed from Little Rock to Walnut Ridge at least as soon as the Jacksonville reconstruction is completed in 2027.
With this in mind, could it be a while before we see any I-57 signage N of Exit 6?
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MikieTimT

Quote from: yakra on March 18, 2025, 02:14:38 PMWith this in mind, could it be a while before we see any I-57 signage N of Exit 6?

That was one of my older posts before ARDOT released information stating that they will be signing all the way to Walnut Ridge, so the crew will keep heading northbound until they're done.  BGS changeover may be a different crew and come at a later time, but I hope I'm proven wrong and it happens quickly.

sprjus4

Quote from: MikieTimT on March 18, 2025, 09:33:33 AMJust checked the IDriveArkansas traffic cams for Kiehl Ave. and only see the lone I-57 shield, not the concurrent US highway shields.  Looks like they've still got the AR-440 BGS up as well, so I wonder when they're going to be swapping that out for I-440.

Checking the IDriveArkansas traffic cams between Beebe and Bald Knob still shows the triplex shields, so they will be a few days likely in the Jacksonville area before heading northward.
Has there been any extension of I-440 officially been requested or designated? Just curious.

74/171FAN

Quote from: sprjus4 on March 18, 2025, 02:49:07 PM
Quote from: MikieTimT on March 18, 2025, 09:33:33 AMJust checked the IDriveArkansas traffic cams for Kiehl Ave. and only see the lone I-57 shield, not the concurrent US highway shields.  Looks like they've still got the AR-440 BGS up as well, so I wonder when they're going to be swapping that out for I-440.

Checking the IDriveArkansas traffic cams between Beebe and Bald Knob still shows the triplex shields, so they will be a few days likely in the Jacksonville area before heading northward.
Has there been any extension of I-440 officially been requested or designated? Just curious.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=35412.msg2951076#msg2951076  (Officially requested)
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TBKS1

Quote from: yakra on March 18, 2025, 02:14:38 PM
Quote from: MikieTimT on August 16, 2024, 05:19:03 PMArkansas is pushing to get I-57 signed from Little Rock to Walnut Ridge at least as soon as the Jacksonville reconstruction is completed in 2027.
With this in mind, could it be a while before we see any I-57 signage N of Exit 6?

Given the construction in Jacksonville, it'd probably be more likely that it'll get signed between exits 11 and 123 before it gets signed in Jacksonville (exits 8-11), but I'm not sure what's going to happen. I'll be heading halfway across the country for two weeks, I'm curious what the extent of the signage would be by the time I get back home.
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MikieTimT

#1367
The plan was actually confirmed upthread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?msg=2947455 and https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?msg=2947292.

The exceptions for the designation were solely for the CA604 project area and the White River bridge.  So, shields will go up throughout, and I'd bet BGS shortly thereafter or even concurrently with another crew from south to north.

bugo

I expect the US 67-167 shields will eventually come down.

Road Hog

Quote from: bugo on March 18, 2025, 05:15:36 PMI expect the US 67-167 shields will eventually come down.
They'll come down eventually knowing recent ArDOT practices, but ArDOT will face some backlash if they pull them too soon in the LR metro. That highway has been 67-167 for my whole lifetime.

Road Hog

As an aside, ArDOT is lately using some interesting single-post shield arrangements, such as the I-55/US 78 one in EArk and the triple 57-67-167 one I saw on here. That's a Georgia bit.

MikieTimT

Drove up to Jacksonville today with the family and noted that the BGS's from I-40 still shows US-67/US-167.  Once you get off I-40 northbound, they've still got a Future I-57 sign up, but once you get next to the access roads, all of the signage on them both directions shows I-57/US-167 to get onto the Interstate.  The first signage northbound past the Future I-57 sign once into Sherwood is the triple I-57/US-67/US-167 signage, but everything north of there is just I-57 on the Interstate itself.  BGS's are not changed over yet anywhere still, including the AR-440 exit.

The Ghostbuster

Does anyone wish that the Interstate 30 designation had been extended up the US 67 corridor instead of the Interstate 57 designation? I personally believe that the Interstate 57 designation was the proper one since it mostly runs north-south. However, Interstate 30 parallels US 67 from Dallas to Little Rock, and they would have had to renumber the exits along the US 67 freeway if it had become 30. And since the extension was numbered as part of 57, that means the Interstate 57 designation could potentially replace the Interstate 530 designation south of Little Rock (if Arkansas wanted to go down that route, which until they do, it would be a Fictional Highways proposal).

edwaleni

#1373
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on March 27, 2025, 03:46:34 PMDoes anyone wish that the Interstate 30 designation had been extended up the US 67 corridor instead of the Interstate 57 designation? I personally believe that the Interstate 57 designation was the proper one since it mostly runs north-south. However, Interstate 30 parallels US 67 from Dallas to Little Rock, and they would have had to renumber the exits along the US 67 freeway if it had become 30. And since the extension was numbered as part of 57, that means the Interstate 57 designation could potentially replace the Interstate 530 designation south of Little Rock (if Arkansas wanted to go down that route, which until they do, it would be a Fictional Highways proposal).

All things considered, I-30 was probably the wrong designation for Dallas>Little Rock.

Probably should have been an even number between 20 and 40.

Like I-44 between St Louis and OKC.


vdeane

Quote from: edwaleni on March 27, 2025, 05:01:22 PMAll things considered, I-30 was probably the wrong designation for Dallas>Little Rock.

Probably should have been an even number between 20 and 40.
Like 30? :bigass:
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