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Started by Alps, May 22, 2011, 12:10:09 AM

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Quote from: Mapmikey on March 31, 2025, 09:36:12 PMThis cutout directly on US 301 has been there at least 13 years...
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ugYcaMs4mW2Sc4uE8




I forgot about this one, thanks for the reminder! Photo from 12/26/22.

QuoteThis US 50 cutout has been there at least 17 years...
https://maps.app.goo.gl/nf6SNe52ToXMbrWx9

A set of US 113 cutouts in Snow Hill are gone now at MD 12 but on 2008 GMSV.

The last proper cutout in Maryland I saw was on I-895 (was a TO US 1 shield).



There was the vintage Interstate 95 trailblazer posted nearby as well. Photo from 07/12/05.


D-Dey65

#2801
I went back to the Wikipedia article on I-95 in Maryland, and I found out that Chesapeake House wasn't built until 1975. Then I went to some Historic Aerials scans of the service area, and I believe it, although I did see some tiny parking areas off to the sides.

Now I'd like to see if there are any newspaper articles proving the opening date, or at least year.

And you know what? I originally wasn't planning on doing this, but what the hell


ixnay

Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 02, 2025, 12:19:31 PMI originally wasn't planning on doing this, but what the hell


Also on the topic of signs...

Is the size of that image supposed to send a sarcastic message, D-Dey?

epzik8

WBAL's annual behind-the-scenes at the Hanover sign shop this time subtly mentions state and national pushback against Clearview.

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Quote from: ixnay on April 16, 2025, 08:15:31 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 02, 2025, 12:19:31 PMI originally wasn't planning on doing this, but what the hell


Also on the topic of signs...

Is the size of that image supposed to send a sarcastic message, D-Dey?
Nah, just the size of the post I found. I wanted it because it was my 3,900th post. Florida SR 39 is closest thing to a Route 39 that I can personally relate to.

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froggie

Quote from: Dough4872 on May 09, 2025, 07:09:47 PMhttps://www.wboc.com/news/wicomico-county-seeks-feasibility-study-to-complete-salisbury-bypass-loop/article_bd63212c-efb8-4a49-8855-47d2e8e4ab30.html Looks like there is a proposal to turn the Salisbury Bypass from a 3/4 bypass into a full beltway

Not needed.  What is needed is a controlled access facility from the bypass into Delaware for US 13 through traffic.

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sprjus4

#2809
Quote from: Dough4872 on May 09, 2025, 07:09:47 PMhttps://www.wboc.com/news/wicomico-county-seeks-feasibility-study-to-complete-salisbury-bypass-loop/article_bd63212c-efb8-4a49-8855-47d2e8e4ab30.html Looks like there is a proposal to turn the Salisbury Bypass from a 3/4 bypass into a full beltway
They want to spend hundreds of millions of dollars for a freeway through farm fields, wetlands, and a river crossing, to connect nothing to nothing... but have no plans or concepts to upgrade any of US-13 north or south of the existing bypass into a limited access highway? Yeah, sure... this isn't going to go anywhere.

This almost reminds me of what they proposed in Suffolk, VA for a while... ironically also for US-13. Sure, it would shave off a few miles (the existing route is also freeway, thanks to a connector between the older bypass to the north and US-13 to the south that opened in the earlier 2000s), but it would cut through a portion of the Dismal Swamp, and cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Meanwhile, US-58 to the west and east of the bypass is still a surface arterial and littered with traffic signals (to the west specifically) and even now 25 years later still hasn't been fixed (besides surface widening, not a proper bypass for through trucks and traffic to I-95).

Beltway

Quote from: froggie on May 09, 2025, 09:41:03 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on May 09, 2025, 07:09:47 PMhttps://www.wboc.com/news/wicomico-county-seeks-feasibility-study-to-complete-salisbury-bypass-loop/article_bd63212c-efb8-4a49-8855-47d2e8e4ab30.html Looks like there is a proposal to turn the Salisbury Bypass from a 3/4 bypass into a full beltway
Not needed.  What is needed is a controlled access facility from the bypass into Delaware for US 13 through traffic.
US 13 through traffic now has a completed 4-lane alternate route, using US-113 and DE-1.

Between Pocomoke city and Dover, this route is only 2 miles longer than the US-13 route, and avoids the Salisbury area completely.
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Quote from: Beltway on May 10, 2025, 01:34:01 AM
Quote from: froggie on May 09, 2025, 09:41:03 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on May 09, 2025, 07:09:47 PMhttps://www.wboc.com/news/wicomico-county-seeks-feasibility-study-to-complete-salisbury-bypass-loop/article_bd63212c-efb8-4a49-8855-47d2e8e4ab30.html Looks like there is a proposal to turn the Salisbury Bypass from a 3/4 bypass into a full beltway
Not needed.  What is needed is a controlled access facility from the bypass into Delaware for US 13 through traffic.
US 13 through traffic now has a completed 4-lane alternate route, using US-113 and DE-1.

Between Pocomoke city and Dover, this route is only 2 miles longer than the US-13 route, and avoids the Salisbury area completely.
That doesn't change the fact that upgrading US-13 should be a higher priority than a full beltway around the city...

Beltway

#2813
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 10, 2025, 12:45:32 PM
Quote from: Beltway on May 10, 2025, 01:34:01 AM
Quote from: froggie on May 09, 2025, 09:41:03 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on May 09, 2025, 07:09:47 PMhttps://www.wboc.com/news/wicomico-county-seeks-feasibility-study-to-complete-salisbury-bypass-loop/article_bd63212c-efb8-4a49-8855-47d2e8e4ab30.html Looks like there is a proposal to turn the Salisbury Bypass from a 3/4 bypass into a full beltway
Not needed.  What is needed is a controlled access facility from the bypass into Delaware for US 13 through traffic.
US 13 through traffic now has a completed 4-lane alternate route, using US-113 and DE-1.

Between Pocomoke city and Dover, this route is only 2 miles longer than the US-13 route, and avoids the Salisbury area completely.
That doesn't change the fact that upgrading US-13 should be a higher priority than a full beltway around the city...
Hard to say . . . the movement between US-50 West and US-13 South is  major movement. The current bypass is way out of the way. My parents lived in the Easton area and a southwest quadrant would benefit travel to anywhere south of Salisbury to Norfolk/Hampton Roads. Cambridge is a good sized small city and also on that part of US-50. For that matter, traffic between Baltimore/Washington area and the lower Eastern Shore.

The full circumferential was the original plan in the 1970s.
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froggie

#2814
Quote from: Beltway on May 10, 2025, 01:34:01 AM
Quote from: froggie on May 09, 2025, 09:41:03 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on May 09, 2025, 07:09:47 PMhttps://www.wboc.com/news/wicomico-county-seeks-feasibility-study-to-complete-salisbury-bypass-loop/article_bd63212c-efb8-4a49-8855-47d2e8e4ab30.html Looks like there is a proposal to turn the Salisbury Bypass from a 3/4 bypass into a full beltway
Not needed.  What is needed is a controlled access facility from the bypass into Delaware for US 13 through traffic.
US 13 through traffic now has a completed 4-lane alternate route, using US-113 and DE-1.

Between Pocomoke city and Dover, this route is only 2 miles longer than the US-13 route, and avoids the Salisbury area completely.

You haven't gone thru Milford or Berlin lately, have you?


But that aside, you're missing the point.  There is a notable congestion problem on 13 between the Salisbury Bypass and Delmar.  Much more problematic than the handful of people who might be going a few miles out of the way between 50 West and 13 South (which in my experience really isn't that many travelers).

Beltway

Quote from: froggie on May 10, 2025, 05:36:20 PM
Quote from: Beltway on May 10, 2025, 01:34:01 AMUS 13 through traffic now has a completed 4-lane alternate route, using US-113 and DE-1.
Between Pocomoke city and Dover, this route is only 2 miles longer than the US-13 route, and avoids the Salisbury area completely.
You haven't gone thru Milford or Berlin lately, have you?
How about on US-13, Seaford and Harrington and the area just south of the Puncheon Run Connector?

At least DelDOT has been building a number of interchanges along DE-1.

I personally would consider US-113/DE-1 to be the better route in terms of congestion and more modern road design. Of course the  two routes work together to handle the north-south Delmarva traffic.
QuoteBut that aside, you're missing the point.  There is a notable congestion problem on 13 between the Salisbury Bypass and Delmar.  Much more problematic than the handful of people who might be going a few miles out of the way between 50 West and 13 South (which in my experience really isn't that many travelers).
My parents lived in the Easton area for almost 50 years and I am familiar enough with the area to know that it is much more than a handful.

There is now almost solid development along a southwest quadrant route, they would have to go at least 6 miles down river from the downtown to get a more feasible route with much lower impacts.

I see several hundred private docks on the Wicomico River upstream of that point. They would need an ICW standard bridge meaning 65 feet of vertical clearance.

12 miles of new 4-lane freeway at a cost of $30 to $50 million per mile. Doesn't really seem cost effective.
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FLAVORTOWN

Quote from: epzik8 on April 17, 2025, 01:57:24 PMWBAL's annual behind-the-scenes at the Hanover sign shop this time subtly mentions state and national pushback against Clearview.



Interesting the guy says they have to make signs in Highway Gothic. MDSHA's reference documents have everything in Clearview and the new signage on I-95 north of Baltimore is all Clearview AFAIK, did they switch back recently?

epzik8

Quote from: FLAVORTOWN on May 11, 2025, 01:14:35 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on April 17, 2025, 01:57:24 PMWBAL's annual behind-the-scenes at the Hanover sign shop this time subtly mentions state and national pushback against Clearview.



Interesting the guy says they have to make signs in Highway Gothic. MDSHA's reference documents have everything in Clearview and the new signage on I-95 north of Baltimore is all Clearview AFAIK, did they switch back recently?

Most of that part of 95 is still Clearview, but they did put up new signs at the southbound express entrance in White Marsh that are in Highway Gothic, and other signs put up on other highways between Baltimore and DC in the last couple of years use variants of Highway Gothic. So Maryland seems to be about done with Clearview.
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Quote from: epzik8 on May 11, 2025, 08:18:41 AMMost of that part of 95 is still Clearview, but they did put up new signs at the southbound express entrance in White Marsh that are in Highway Gothic, and other signs put up on other highways between Baltimore and DC in the last couple of years use variants of Highway Gothic. So Maryland seems to be about done with Clearview.
Looks like MDTA still uses it.
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MASTERNC

Looks like work to connect I-695 to the I-95 ETLs may be starting soon given the orphan road work and photo enforcement signs on NB I-95 just before the interchange.

Also looks like cameras are coming to the MD 24 interchange next Monday. The signage is all up and working.

epzik8

Quote from: MASTERNC on May 27, 2025, 09:45:27 PMLooks like work to connect I-695 to the I-95 ETLs may be starting soon given the orphan road work and photo enforcement signs on NB I-95 just before the interchange.

Also looks like cameras are coming to the MD 24 interchange next Monday. The signage is all up and working.

Yep, they've got the work speed limit signs with the flashers and the exit signs are now orange.
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Quote from: epzik8 on June 13, 2025, 04:02:24 PM
Quote from: MASTERNC on May 27, 2025, 09:45:27 PMLooks like work to connect I-695 to the I-95 ETLs may be starting soon given the orphan road work and photo enforcement signs on NB I-95 just before the interchange.

Also looks like cameras are coming to the MD 24 interchange next Monday. The signage is all up and working.

Yep, they've got the work speed limit signs with the flashers and the exit signs are now orange.

Quote from: epzik8 on June 13, 2025, 04:02:24 PM
Quote from: MASTERNC on May 27, 2025, 09:45:27 PMLooks like work to connect I-695 to the I-95 ETLs may be starting soon given the orphan road work and photo enforcement signs on NB I-95 just before the interchange.

Also looks like cameras are coming to the MD 24 interchange next Monday. The signage is all up and working.

Yep, they've got the work speed limit signs with the flashers and the exit signs are now orange.

Wish PennDOT would copy those flashing "active work zone" trailer signs.  They're much easier to control than the battery-operated strobes that are often not turned on or off.

MASTERNC

Does the ETL project extend past MD 543? Saw new construction and camera signage NB right at the exit. Seems a bit discontinuous from the work up to Bynum Run, where I thought the lanes ended

TheOneKEA

Quote from: MASTERNC on June 20, 2025, 06:46:24 AMDoes the ETL project extend past MD 543? Saw new construction and camera signage NB right at the exit. Seems a bit discontinuous from the work up to Bynum Run, where I thought the lanes ended

The original ETL plans showed both carriage ways starting/ending just before the spot where I-95's median widens for Maryland House. Past that point, I-95 was planned to be widened to eight lanes up a point just past Exit 85. I don't know how much of the original plans have been retained for the northbound ETL project currently in progress.

MASTERNC

Quote from: TheOneKEA on June 20, 2025, 11:23:02 AM
Quote from: MASTERNC on June 20, 2025, 06:46:24 AMDoes the ETL project extend past MD 543? Saw new construction and camera signage NB right at the exit. Seems a bit discontinuous from the work up to Bynum Run, where I thought the lanes ended

The original ETL plans showed both carriage ways starting/ending just before the spot where I-95's median widens for Maryland House. Past that point, I-95 was planned to be widened to eight lanes up a point just past Exit 85. I don't know how much of the original plans have been retained for the northbound ETL project currently in progress.

Looks like it might be for the 543 interchange itself because the end signs were posted just before that. The strange thing is there were End Work Zone signs at Bynum Run, then more camera zone signage 1/2 mile later



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