State Names *Only* That Are Used As Control Cities

Started by thenetwork, June 05, 2025, 10:09:36 AM

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thenetwork

With the new recent talk about DOT's using just a state name for a control city, I don't believe there is an actual list showing how many states are regularly used in lieu of a control "city".

And so, for starters:

UTAH -- WB I-70 from Grand Junction, CO to UT/CO state line.

WISCONSIN -- Along the Tri-State Tollway in Chicago.

INDIANA
--  Again, along the Tri-State Tollway.

Others?







kphoger

There are still some instances of 'Kansas' as a control city on the Missouri side of KC.

Example:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/eWeK5jnGm2zNeECQ9

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IOWA/INDIANA -- along I-80 in Chicagoland

OHIO -- Indiana Toll Road (INDOT signs sometimes say Toledo, but Toll Road signs Ohio)
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1995hoo

I remember "Florida" and "Mississippi" appearing as controls on signs in southern Alabama, but Google Street View shows those have been replaced by "Pensacola" and "Pascagoula," respectively.

I also recall when I was a kid, northbound I-81 in New York State used "Canada" as a control. I haven't been up that road northbound since the 1980s with the exception of the short segment from I-781 to the border in June 2019. I recall the sign on I-781 was for I-81 North towards Canada, but I don't know whether it's still used elsewhere. I figure a "control country" fits the spirit of this thread even though it's not technically a "state."
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TheHighwayMan3561

Minnesota uses "Wisconsin" as a control city:
-in the Duluth area
-for US 63 in Red Wing
-for TH 36 in Stillwater

Wisconsin uses "Minnesota" as a control city:
-for I-90 in La Crosse

Ted$8roadFan

Maine used to include "New Hampshire" and "Massachusetts" or "NH-MASS" at various points on I-95 from the Portland area south to Kittery.

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Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on June 05, 2025, 11:29:42 AMMaine used to include "New Hampshire" and "Massachusetts" or "NH-MASS" at various points on I-95 from the Portland area south to Kittery.

On the flip side, New Hampshire had/has "(To All) Maine Points" as well.

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Quote from: kphoger on June 05, 2025, 10:35:34 AMThere are still some instances of 'Kansas' as a control city on the Missouri side of KC.

Example:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/eWeK5jnGm2zNeECQ9

Here is another example, this one on an Interstate:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/2s7cPnL5SL4xqFFt7

And, coming from the other direction:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/JDLEMWqWM4xRoYhP9

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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hbelkins

"Kentucky" is used (along with Ohio) at I-275's lone exit in Indiana. Kentucky is also used infrequently in Ohio, particularly in the Cincinnati area and for the Carl D. Perkins bridge (Spur KY 8/Truck US 23) near Portsmouth.
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bassoon1986

We've had this topic thread before but I still like it. Soneone shared last time about one near St George UT at an exit ramp for SR 7 for Arizona and Utah

https://maps.app.goo.gl/jMEnuK7SBusHHjbB7

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Quote from: hobsini2 on June 05, 2025, 04:43:23 PMHaving not been down that part of I-65, I saw this on the backside of the sign you posted. I never knew they did signed that way in the past.

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.6478279,-88.1206658,3a,31.3y,336.68h,109.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIA8GZzC-mwSNn2Sx6DtO4A!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-19.010190033880676%26panoid%3DIA8GZzC-mwSNn2Sx6DtO4A%26yaw%3D336.67576458864664!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDYwMy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

There's a few slatted signs around still if you know where to look, there's four gantries with them here in Huntsville and I think only one left in Birmingham, Montgomery has lost all of its examples. Mobile and the surrounding area seems to have the most surviving slatted signs still.
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Quote from: hbelkins on June 05, 2025, 01:45:30 PM"Kentucky" is used (along with Ohio) at I-275's lone exit in Indiana. Kentucky is also used infrequently in Ohio, particularly in the Cincinnati area and for the Carl D. Perkins bridge (Spur KY 8/Truck US 23) near Portsmouth.
Portsmouth examples...


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Only 'state control city' sign I've caught in Cincy. This is along OH 32 eastbound...
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Road Hog

The south end of I-540 in Fort Smith used to just say Oklahoma on overhead gantries. Might still do; it's been about 30 years since I recall being out that way. Probably appropriate since there isn't much out there.

tman

Nebraska does this with "Iowa" in Nebraska City, on US 75 at NE-2:

Google Maps

There's not a great choice east of here. You're a couple miles from the river/border, and a couple more from the junction with I-29. The next town, Sidney, is over a dozen miles away, well past I-29, and is reached via a multiplex on US 275.

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We see "Iowa" used again in Nebraska in South Sioux City. I think it's here used to avoid confusion with the three towns with "Sioux City" in the name within a few miles (South Sioux City, NE, North Sioux City, SD, and Sioux City, IA).

Google Maps

bassoon1986

Not sure if this will link correctly. But was the thread from before. Some good examples in there and good pictures

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=28060.msg2550622#msg2550622

gonealookin

Quote from: bassoon1986 on June 05, 2025, 08:44:23 PMNot sure if this will link correctly. But was the thread from before. Some good examples in there and good pictures

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=28060.msg2550622#msg2550622

Since you are the OP on that thread and say you'll update:

"California" on AZ 95 in Parker (there's also one around the corner on the southbound side).

There's nothing in California on SR 62 until you get all the way to Twentynine Palms.  A lot of traffic using SR 62 would turn either way on US 95 toward Needles or Blythe; most of the remaining traffic continuing straight on SR 62 past US 95 would then follow SR 177 to Interstate 10, and the next civilization is Other Desert Cities, er, I mean Indio.

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Quote from: hobsini2 on June 05, 2025, 03:07:09 PMIllinois is used in St Louis on I-55/44.
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6177945,-90.1910664,3a,33.3y,25.65h,95.44t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s80-x9Sw1JFVrxqY0dMPsKg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-5.4442429173635105%26panoid%3D80-x9Sw1JFVrxqY0dMPsKg%26yaw%3D25.64652314413463!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDYwMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Illinois is used in Dubuque on US 20.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.492082,-90.6659544,3a,30.4y,122.37h,110.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1scndsktVwjlXzYq2NhStitg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-20.096719180064497%26panoid%3DcndsktVwjlXzYq2NhStitg%26yaw%3D122.36838101484581!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDYwMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

And also for two signs on US 50 approaching I-255.
Western sign
Eastern sign

EDIT1::  And on US 40 in St. Louis:
At Kingshighway
At the previous interchange near Union Station

EDIT2:  And for I-70 in St. Louis.  Streetview

EDIT3:
Westbound US 24 uses Missouri in Quincy:
Sign 1
Sign 2

EDIT4:This use of Illinois for US 136 in Keokuk may qualify.  Streetview
There's also a use of Missouri nearby:  Streetview 1
Streetview 2 (complete with an IL 9 detour assembly in Iowa).

EDIT5:And Illinois makes one at least one appearance for US 34 in Burlington, IA.  Streetview
There's "To Illinois" on US 61 at little to the west:  Sign 1 Sign 2

Ted$8roadFan

Also, at one point, there was a sign on the exit from VT-9 to I-91 south in Brattleboro for "Massachusetts". I think it has been replaced with Springfield.

kphoger

Quote from: tman on June 05, 2025, 06:55:45 PMNebraska does this with "Iowa" in Nebraska City, on US 75 at NE-2:

Google Maps

There's not a great choice east of here. You're a couple miles from the river/border, and a couple more from the junction with I-29. The next town, Sidney, is over a dozen miles away, well past I-29, and is reached via a multiplex on US 275.

Sidney would work fine as the control.  If not, then just use I-29 as the control.

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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