Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana

Started by mukade, June 25, 2011, 08:55:31 AM

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Strider

I'm curious... based on so many bridge piers built on the photos, is it also the floodplains that I-69 will go across in addition to the Ohio River, or are they dry lands prior to the Ohio River?


silverback1065

Quote from: Strider on July 07, 2025, 04:05:07 PMI'm curious... based on so many bridge piers built on the photos, is it also the floodplains that I-69 will go across in addition to the Ohio River, or are they dry lands prior to the Ohio River?

floodplains

Rick Powell

Quote from: silverback1065 on July 07, 2025, 04:38:09 PM
Quote from: Strider on July 07, 2025, 04:05:07 PMI'm curious... based on so many bridge piers built on the photos, is it also the floodplains that I-69 will go across in addition to the Ohio River, or are they dry lands prior to the Ohio River?

floodplains

In general, there is no reason to build on piers approaching a river unless the land is either in a flood plain, a federally protected wetland, or both, where building on fill would have negative effects on flooding or environmental quality. Roads on structure are typically more expensive to build and maintain.

abqtraveler

Quote from: Rick Powell on July 08, 2025, 11:19:18 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on July 07, 2025, 04:38:09 PM
Quote from: Strider on July 07, 2025, 04:05:07 PMI'm curious... based on so many bridge piers built on the photos, is it also the floodplains that I-69 will go across in addition to the Ohio River, or are they dry lands prior to the Ohio River?

floodplains

In general, there is no reason to build on piers approaching a river unless the land is either in a flood plain, a federally protected wetland, or both, where building on fill would have negative effects on flooding or environmental quality. Roads on structure are typically more expensive to build and maintain.
Those piers are for the viaducts that will carry I-69 over the Ohio River floodplain. That area in particular is very prone to flooding whenever there is prolonged rainfall or spring snowmelt, so it makes sense to elevate the highway so it's not shut down every spring when the river floods.
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RoadWarrior56

As an ex-Evansville resident myself and for many subsequent years while my parents still lived there while they were alive, I can agree with the last post.  Waterworks Road, which travels through the Ohio River floodplain on west side of US 41, was and is flooded and closed to traffic numerous years during the late winter and early spring.

Rick Powell

Quote from: abqtraveler on July 11, 2025, 08:45:20 AMThose piers are for the viaducts that will carry I-69 over the Ohio River floodplain. That area in particular is very prone to flooding whenever there is prolonged rainfall or spring snowmelt, so it makes sense to elevate the highway so it's not shut down every spring when the river floods.

It's not so much the potential flooding on the I-69 pavement that requires a bridge section in the floodplain; INDOT could have built the bridge approaches on a high fill far above the potential flood elevation, and probably cheaper than a land bridge. But by doing so, they would likely cause backwater that would endanger the surrounding properties during flood events. Meeting the floodplain permit requirements for design and construction of I-69 was likely the biggest influence on what is being built.

KelleyCook

Quote from: Strider on July 07, 2025, 04:05:07 PMI'm curious... based on so many bridge piers built on the photos, is it also the floodplains that I-69 will go across in addition to the Ohio River, or are they dry lands prior to the Ohio River?

This part of the Ohio has one of the nations larger floodplains.  This was three months ago at the intersection with Green River road a mile and a half east of where the bridge piers were being built.  Its nominally 1.7 miles from the bridge to the "official" bank of the river.

Openstreet map: https://osm.org/go/ZRP0d0tV-



credit: https://103gbfrocks.com/aerial-photos-evansville-flooding/

Strider

Alright. Makes sense. Thank you for the response, guys! :)

mgk920

Isn't the south floodplain at that point in the Ohio River entirely in Kentucky?

Mike

Life in Paradise

Quote from: mgk920 on July 17, 2025, 02:03:54 PMIsn't the south floodplain at that point in the Ohio River entirely in Kentucky?

Mike
Not entirely.  On a Google map, normally along a line of where "Waterworks Road" is in Evansville is a big part of the line.  From the viewpoint of that drone photo, Indiana's ownership goes all the way to the bank, and is actually a few feet in the Ohio River water normally.



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