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formulanone

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 14, 2025, 03:54:46 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on July 14, 2025, 03:52:26 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on July 12, 2025, 02:42:32 AMAshland: Weed
Is this a marijuana joke?

Abner Weed must be rolling in his grave right about now.

Ashland should come after Weed.


kernals12

Quote from: kkt on July 14, 2025, 06:54:19 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on July 14, 2025, 03:52:26 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on July 12, 2025, 02:42:32 AMAshland: Weed
Is this a marijuana joke?

Is Wikipedia broken?


I Googled "Weed, Oregon" and got a bunch of cannabis stuff. How was I supposed to know Bickendan was talking about a place in California?
Quote from: Sub-Urbanite on July 14, 2025, 07:45:00 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on July 14, 2025, 03:30:45 PMBack in the 90s, environmentalists claimed that building the West Side bypass would fuel unwanted urban sprawl in the Tualatin Valley. Well, the road was never built and yet the population of the area has exploded. Go figure.

To be fair, almost all of that growth has been in the existing urban growth boundaries. A lot of the land around where the WSB would have gone, it's locked from urban development for the next 30 years now. And, I think it's also illegal to build a freeway in those areas.

It's illegal to build any road anywhere unless it's a designated ROW.

Max Rockatansky

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Yreka and Redding were also mentioned right before Weed.  Not really much of a stretch to infer that Weed as located somewhere nearby.  Weed makes sense as a control city given it is the origin point for US 97.

PNWRoadgeek

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 14, 2025, 08:21:04 PMYreka and Redding were also mentioned right before Weed.  Not really much of a stretch to infer that Weed as located somewhere nearby.  Weed makes sense as a control city given it is the origin point for US 97.
I would always laugh at the name Weed when it came up on guide signs on the 97 in Klamath Falls. Man, Klamath Falls has some banger control cities(I.e, San Francisco, Reno)

I've got a hot take, I think Eugene should be signed south out of Portland instead of Salem, especially at the I-84 junction. The issue is that while Salem is a major city in Oregon and the capital, it's only around 40-50 miles away from Portland. Plus, it kinda feels like part of the Portland metro considering how close it is. I would sign Eugene and have Salem as the secondary. Also, I-5 bypasses Salem almost entirely(besides the 22 interchange, the most logical reason to sign it IMO because it is the fastest way to Central Oregon from the Portland metro), so I would sign Eugene instead.

I also feel like Oregon can get really petty on I-5 and especially I-84 with in-state control cities, like others have said. Like, why is Roseburg here? Why is Baker here? Why is Ontario here?(I understand Grants Pass because it's the access point for the Redwoods and the 199 is best cutoff to the 101 in the state, I would still go Medford out of Eugene though)

Anyways, those are my thoughts on the current discussion.
Applying for new Grand Alan.

Bickendan

When the control cities were first established, Salem most definitely wasn't part of the Portland metro. There are two different discussions here -- whether a control city was valid at the time I-5 was built or when US 99 was converted, and whether a control city makes sense now.

I'd argue the control cities as they are now were good when they were designated, and my updated list (aside from my tongue-in-cheek Weed) would be a good update, but I'm not bothered by the current set.

Rothman

Quote from: Sub-Urbanite on July 14, 2025, 07:45:00 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on July 14, 2025, 03:30:45 PMBack in the 90s, environmentalists claimed that building the West Side bypass would fuel unwanted urban sprawl in the Tualatin Valley. Well, the road was never built and yet the population of the area has exploded. Go figure.

To be fair, almost all of that growth has been in the existing urban growth boundaries. A lot of the land around where the WSB would have gone, it's locked from urban development for the next 30 years now. And, I think it's also illegal to build a freeway in those areas.

Who'dathunk other factors besides highway construction contribute to growth?
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