Random Thoughts

[SEWIGuy]

having different honorifics for women based on their marital status but nothing of the sort for men was sexist

gender equality

I don't think anyone on here has said anything about gender equality or sexism being the reason for 'Ms.'

Who is claiming that?

kernals12 is making the claim himself (not quoting someone else) that it's an attempt to reduce sexism.

To be fair to kernals12, I've heard things of that sort for many years, going back to the 1980s when I first saw the form "Ms." Feminists, in particular, embraced that form because they said it was unfair that the male form of address, "Mr.," doesn't say anything about your marital status while the then-prevailing only two female forms, "Mrs." and "Miss," were expressly based on marital status. Some women also didn't like "Mrs." because it is traditionally used with the husband's name. That is, the former First Lady is properly "Mrs. George W. Bush," not "Mrs. Laura Bush."

I can certainly see why someone would perceive it as a double standard and say the traditional "Mrs." and "Miss" were sexist when compared to "Mr."

Yeah, it was definitely a gender-equity thing.

[kernals12]

having different honorifics for women based on their marital status but nothing of the sort for men was sexist

gender equality

I don't think anyone on here has said anything about gender equality or sexism being the reason for 'Ms.'

Who is claiming that?

kernals12 is making the claim himself (not quoting someone else) that it's an attempt to reduce sexism.

I'm not quoting someone else because I thought it was common knowledge that "Ms." was a product of 2nd wave feminism.

But if you need citations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila_Michaels

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ms._(magazine)

[PNWRoadgeek]

There are some things in this world that are equal to the likes of MMM and P13, they are just currently above and below us and we don't have to worry about them as much. Alanland is a major example, y'know. But like I said, it's above and below the likes of us, we can deal with them just fine.

[Max Rockatansky]

There are some things in this world that are equal to the likes of MMM and P13, they are just currently above and below us and we don't have to worry about them as much.

There is always someone just like them around the corner.  Enjoy the quiet periods while you can.