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Interstate 11 alignment, though Vegas and points north

Started by swbrotha100, October 16, 2012, 09:51:18 PM

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Quote from: gonealookin on September 08, 2025, 06:31:01 PMYou can look at NDOT's AADT reports here.  It says "2024", but those pages actually cover the period from 2015 through 2024.

I don't think those reports are completely accurate.  Looking at Esmeralda County, it makes no sense that AADT at Station 0090005 on US 95 was 3650 in 2022.  That's 800 more than at that station in any of the other nine years, and is also 750 more than at Station 0090006, just a few miles away, in the same year.

The "quick and dirty" glance at US 95 across a few counties says, yes, there's a general "uptick" over the ten years but it's not very significant.  At that rate of increase it will be many decades before construction of full Interstate in counties like Mineral and Esmeralda could be justified by AADT on US 95.

I took a looksee at them and I was wondering about the accuracy too. Some of the 2024 AADTs show lower numbers than in 2023. I was looking at 0210005 in Mineral County and for 2023 it says 5150 but for 2024, it's 3850.


mgk920

It will evolve into more just like US 41 did here in Wisconsin.

Mike

roadfro

Quote from: gonealookin on September 08, 2025, 06:31:01 PMYou can look at NDOT's AADT reports here.  It says "2024", but those pages actually cover the period from 2015 through 2024.

I don't think those reports are completely accurate.  Looking at Esmeralda County, it makes no sense that AADT at Station 0090005 on US 95 was 3650 in 2022.  That's 800 more than at that station in any of the other nine years, and is also 750 more than at Station 0090006, just a few miles away, in the same year.
NDOT's yearly traffic reports typically include data for the last 10 years.

As for that station in Esmeralda County: I'm pretty sure that section was reconstructed around that time frame (Street View shows signs of reconstruction between May 2021 & April 2023), so the increased AADT might be attributable to construction vehicles.

Quote from: US 395 on September 09, 2025, 01:37:31 AMI took a looksee at them and I was wondering about the accuracy too. Some of the 2024 AADTs show lower numbers than in 2023. I was looking at 0210005 in Mineral County and for 2023 it says 5150 but for 2024, it's 3850.
Also possibly explained by construction, as I'm pretty sure that this segment was repaved in 2023. (Street View is not as clear as previous, but there are differences between April 2023 and Sept 2024 views--and the satellite view looks like really fresh pavement starting just south of the Schurz school.)
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Quote from: gonealookin on September 08, 2025, 06:31:01 PMI don't think those reports are completely accurate.  Looking at Esmeralda County, it makes no sense that AADT at Station 0090005 on US 95 was 3650 in 2022.  That's 800 more than at that station in any of the other nine years, and is also 750 more than at Station 0090006, just a few miles away, in the same year.

Perhaps there was some sort of mining operation being constructed nearby in 2022?
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Bobby5280

AADT counts along US-95 between Las Vegas and the Reno area will never be significant as long as the highway remains mostly a desolate 2-lane route. Short extensions of I-11 from Las Vegas up to Indian Springs or any number of stubs off I-80 at Clark or Fernley won't make any difference. The bulk of US-95 between Reno and Las Vegas will only serve local traffic.

A proper thru route, 4-lane divided all the way, could function as a regional bypass of California. Interior US traffic coming from places like Texas and heading to the Pacific Northwest could bypass California (along with its high fuel prices, traffic, etc). But that only works if there is a focused effort to build the whole damned thing. If I-11 is built piece-meal fashion just to serve local traffic demands between Las Vegas and Reno then they might as well not bother. Focus on the Vegas to West-of-Phoenix thing instead.

Max Rockatansky

Nevada is pretty much on the hook to build all of this.  CANAMEX anything probably isn't going to endear much Federal unless the next administration is wildly different than the current one.

pderocco

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 16, 2025, 10:37:12 AMNevada is pretty much on the hook to build all of this.  CANAMEX anything probably isn't going to endear much Federal unless the next administration is wildly different than the current one.
I dunno, it might make it easier for illegal immigrants to get to Canada.

chays

The Wikipedia page's table of major intersections for I-11 has columns for both Old Exit and New Exit numbers. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_11)  However, the GSV from May of this year shows the old number. I cannot find any information on a renumbering. Can anyone local verify that exit numbers haven't changed? Are there any plans for NDOT to make this change?

The Ghostbuster

This has been a bee in my bonnet as well. I think the exit numbers on US 95 (and US 93 east of Interstate 15) should have been renumbered to Interstate 11's mileage when 11 became signposted between Interstate 215 and NV 157. Even though 11 won't be signed past NV 157 at present, I would've also renumbered US 95's existing Exit 99 to Exit 57 (its future number). In addition, I would've numbered the exit at Mercury Hwy. via 11's mileage, even though it won't become part of 11 for quite some time.

kphoger

Quote from: chays on September 16, 2025, 04:04:52 PMThe Wikipedia page's table of major intersections for I-11 has columns for both Old Exit and New Exit numbers. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_11)  However, the GSV from May of this year shows the old number. I cannot find any information on a renumbering. Can anyone local verify that exit numbers haven't changed? Are there any plans for NDOT to make this change?

Looking at the edit history on the Wikipedia page... this issue goes back at least to June 2024.  User |ChessEric| attempted to fix it, but then someone else switched it back again five months later.

Quote18:19, 22 June 2024
76.134.171.88
→Exit list

Quote00:15, 8 July 2024
ChessEric
→Exit list: No source for these numbers.

Quote19:32, 19 December 2024
EVERYTHING564
→Exit list

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Quote from: kphoger on September 16, 2025, 04:57:10 PM
Quote from: chays on September 16, 2025, 04:04:52 PMThe Wikipedia page's table of major intersections for I-11 has columns for both Old Exit and New Exit numbers. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_11)  However, the GSV from May of this year shows the old number. I cannot find any information on a renumbering. Can anyone local verify that exit numbers haven't changed? Are there any plans for NDOT to make this change?

Looking at the edit history on the Wikipedia page... this issue goes back at least to June 2024.  User |ChessEric| attempted to fix it, but then someone else switched it back again five months later.

Quote18:19, 22 June 2024
76.134.171.88
→Exit list

Quote00:15, 8 July 2024
ChessEric
→Exit list: No source for these numbers.

Quote19:32, 19 December 2024
EVERYTHING564
→Exit list
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Quote from: The Ghostbuster on September 16, 2025, 04:28:18 PMIn addition, I would've numbered the exit at Mercury Hwy. via 11's mileage, even though it won't become part of 11 for quite some time.
Does Mercury even have a signed exit number?  Google says 136, but I can't see any signage for it.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.


Bobby5280

It looks like they might have to improve those inner left shoulders on the US-95 exit for Mercury in order to meet current Interstate standards.

Scott5114

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Quote from: chays on September 16, 2025, 04:04:52 PMThe Wikipedia page's table of major intersections for I-11 has columns for both Old Exit and New Exit numbers. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_11)  However, the GSV from May of this year shows the old number. I cannot find any information on a renumbering. Can anyone local verify that exit numbers haven't changed? Are there any plans for NDOT to make this change?

It's total BS. NDOT has said and done nothing about exit renumbering.

Don't use Wikipedia for road coverage—they forced out all of the roadgeeks so there's nobody who knows what they're doing maintaining the articles there. Use https://wiki.aaroads.com/ instead.

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on September 16, 2025, 04:28:18 PMThis has been a bee in my bonnet as well. I think the exit numbers on US 95 (and US 93 east of Interstate 15) should have been renumbered to Interstate 11's mileage when 11 became signposted between Interstate 215 and NV 157. Even though 11 won't be signed past NV 157 at present, I would've also renumbered US 95's existing Exit 99 to Exit 57 (its future number). In addition, I would've numbered the exit at Mercury Hwy. via 11's mileage, even though it won't become part of 11 for quite some time.

The problem is that in Vegas the I-11 renumbering itself is a bee in some people's bonnet (there were even a few born & raised still mad about I-515 and insisting on calling it US-95), so changing the exit numbers at the same time would have been seen as changing too much, too quickly.

NDOT is probably waiting for the people complaining about I-11 to move back to California, and be replaced with different people from California who have never known it as anything other than I-11, before they change the exit numbering to match the 11 designation.
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