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Rothman

Quote from: roadman65 on October 10, 2025, 05:09:14 PMWhy isn't there an Exit 1 on I-95? I often wondered why the first Exit for Delavan Ave is Exit 2 in Greenwich.



Because it's mileage-based...
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.


The Ghostbuster

The first exit on Interstate 95 has always been Exit 2, even when the roadway was part of the Connecticut Turnpike. When the mileage-based exit renumbering project is done in 2028, it will become Exit 1. Even after the conversion occurs, a bunch of exit numbers will remain unchanged since the current sequential exit numbers match the mileposts in many locations.

MikeTheActuary

Quote from: roadman65 on October 10, 2025, 05:09:14 PMWhy isn't there an Exit 1 on I-95?

"Exit 1" is the New York state line.

abqtraveler

Quote from: roadman65 on October 10, 2025, 05:09:14 PMWhy isn't there an Exit 1 on I-95? I often wondered why the first Exit for Delavan Ave is Exit 2 in Greenwich.


Back in the day, a lot of the old toll roads considered "Exit 1" to be a continuation of the toll road into the next state at the state line.  You saw this on the Mass Pike heading into New York, and the Ohio Turnpike heading into Indiana, where exit 2 was the last numbered exit before the toll road reached the state line.  The Connecticut Turnpike's first exit being Exit 2 implies this same logic was followed, where "Exit 1" was the continuation of the highway into New York.
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

storm2k

Quote from: abqtraveler on October 11, 2025, 10:40:43 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 10, 2025, 05:09:14 PMWhy isn't there an Exit 1 on I-95? I often wondered why the first Exit for Delavan Ave is Exit 2 in Greenwich.


Back in the day, a lot of the old toll roads considered "Exit 1" to be a continuation of the toll road into the next state at the state line.  You saw this on the Mass Pike heading into New York, and the Ohio Turnpike heading into Indiana, where exit 2 was the last numbered exit before the toll road reached the state line.  The Connecticut Turnpike's first exit being Exit 2 implies this same logic was followed, where "Exit 1" was the continuation of the highway into New York.

The NJ Turnpike still does this. Exit 1 is the southern toll plaza in Penns Grove.

vdeane

Digging out my old PA map from the sequential days, the PA Turnpike did it too.  There's an exit 1 marker at the state line, with PA 60 (now I-376) as exit 1A and PA 18 as exit 2.  On the eastern end, US 13 is exit 29, no exit 30 is marked (presumably NJ and omitted for space) and the Northeast Extension resumes with exit 31 at Lansdale.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

roadman65

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Quote from: Rothman on October 10, 2025, 06:36:44 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 10, 2025, 05:09:14 PMWhy isn't there an Exit 1 on I-95? I often wondered why the first Exit for Delavan Ave is Exit 2 in Greenwich.



Because it's mileage-based...

No its not. Connecticut is like New York.  Sequential like I-81 used to be.  And being from NYSDOT you should know that the Kirkwood exit was Exit 1 and not the continuation into Pennsylvania. 
Quote from: storm2k on October 11, 2025, 08:36:43 PM
Quote from: abqtraveler on October 11, 2025, 10:40:43 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 10, 2025, 05:09:14 PMWhy isn't there an Exit 1 on I-95? I often wondered why the first Exit for Delavan Ave is Exit 2 in Greenwich.


Back in the day, a lot of the old toll roads considered "Exit 1" to be a continuation of the toll road into the next state at the state line.  You saw this on the Mass Pike heading into New York, and the Ohio Turnpike heading into Indiana, where exit 2 was the last numbered exit before the toll road reached the state line.  The Connecticut Turnpike's first exit being Exit 2 implies this same logic was followed, where "Exit 1" was the continuation of the highway into New York.

The NJ Turnpike still does this. Exit 1 is the southern toll plaza in Penns Grove.

NJ Turnpike is ticket based. Exit 1 is the toll plaza and not implied.  Connecticut Turnpike was barrier rolled.  You didnt  have to surrender a ticket to cross the state line. 

Plus I figured there was maybe a never built freeway proposed and they left it open for it like Delaware left Exit 2 open for the never built US 301 freeway.   Exit 9, was left unused on I-84 in Newburgh, NY for a never built road.
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Rothman

Quote from: roadman65 on October 12, 2025, 10:06:29 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 10, 2025, 06:36:44 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 10, 2025, 05:09:14 PMWhy isn't there an Exit 1 on I-95? I often wondered why the first Exit for Delavan Ave is Exit 2 in Greenwich.



Because it's mileage-based...

No its not. Connecticut is like New York.  Sequential like I-81 used to be.  And being from NYSDOT you should know that the Kirkwood exit was Exit 1 and not the continuation into Pennsylvania.

Measure the mileage from the state line to Exit 2 on I-95 in CT... ;D

Not sure what I-81 in NY has to do with the conversation...?
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

jemacedo9

Quote from: vdeane on October 11, 2025, 09:42:42 PMDigging out my old PA map from the sequential days, the PA Turnpike did it too.  There's an exit 1 marker at the state line, with PA 60 (now I-376) as exit 1A and PA 18 as exit 2.  On the eastern end, US 13 is exit 29, no exit 30 is marked (presumably NJ and omitted for space) and the Northeast Extension resumes with exit 31 at Lansdale.

Exit 1 was the mainline toll barrier just before the PA/OH state line.
Exit 30 was the mainline toll barrier just before the PA/NJ state line.
So in that way, PA was similar to NJ.

vdeane

Quote from: roadman65 on October 12, 2025, 10:06:29 AMAnd being from NYSDOT you should know that the Kirkwood exit was Exit 1 and not the continuation into Pennsylvania. 
I-81 was never an old turnpike.  Old turnpikes did weird things like that.

Quote from: roadman65 on October 12, 2025, 10:06:29 AMConnecticut Turnpike was barrier rolled.  You didnt  have to surrender a ticket to cross the state line. 
And?  Barrier tolls are no stranger to this; back when the Massachusetts Turnpike was sequential, "exit 19" was the Allston-Brighton toll barrier.  That's why what is now exit 131 used to be exit 18 EB and exit 20 WB.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.