2026 Road Trip Plans

Started by JayhawkCO, October 28, 2025, 06:31:56 PM

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pderocco

Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2026, 02:03:31 PMBy the way, I see Google Maps has decided that there's now a Utah SR-1364 from the western end of CO-138 to the Clay Basin Camp Road junction.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/NPCvK1EZ2iAhC1jU9

:facepalm:
They apparently take a lot of hallucinogens at Google.

I may drive that because there are a couple of side roads that go to crossings of the Green River.


kphoger

Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2026, 02:03:31 PMBy the way, I see Google Maps has decided that there's now a Utah SR-1364 from the western end of CO-138 to the Clay Basin Camp Road junction.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/NPCvK1EZ2iAhC1jU9

:facepalm:

Quote from: JayhawkCO on March 31, 2026, 02:11:16 PMIt's been that way for a while on GMaps. It's just signed as CR22. It's a nice drive up that way; I took it on the way to camp at Flaming Gorge.

Hmmmmm.....  I guess it doesn't come out of nowhere.  Here's the western endpoint at the Wyoming line.  Note the number in the route shield.



UDOT identifies the road as route 1364 (Federal Aid) on its maps, too.  This signage matches other Federal Aid routes, such as Route 2804 on nearby Limestone Rd and Route 1370 on NF-218.  Interesting.  I didn't know about these little shields until now.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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JayhawkCO

Quote from: kphoger on April 01, 2026, 09:53:46 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2026, 02:03:31 PMBy the way, I see Google Maps has decided that there's now a Utah SR-1364 from the western end of CO-138 to the Clay Basin Camp Road junction.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/NPCvK1EZ2iAhC1jU9

:facepalm:

Quote from: JayhawkCO on March 31, 2026, 02:11:16 PMIt's been that way for a while on GMaps. It's just signed as CR22. It's a nice drive up that way; I took it on the way to camp at Flaming Gorge.

Hmmmmm.....  I guess it doesn't come out of nowhere.  Here's the western endpoint at the Wyoming line.  Note the number in the route shield.



UDOT identifies the road as route 1364 (Federal Aid) on its maps, too.  This signage matches other Federal Aid routes, such as Route 2804 on nearby Limestone Rd and Route 1370 on NF-218.  Interesting.  I didn't know about these little shields until now.

Weird. I don't remember seeing that. Here's the UT/CO state line with CR22 clearly signed:


kphoger

Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 01, 2026, 10:18:43 AMWeird. I don't remember seeing that. Here's the UT/CO state line with CR22 clearly signed:

Right, I was posting a picture from the other end, at the UT/WY state line.  Here's the GSV for that, with Route 1364 signed (the state line sign was replaced and moved in between shots):

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Es1iHWkMUG1eBccA8

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

JayhawkCO

Quote from: kphoger on April 01, 2026, 10:31:14 AM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 01, 2026, 10:18:43 AMWeird. I don't remember seeing that. Here's the UT/CO state line with CR22 clearly signed:

Right, I was posting a picture from the other end, at the UT/WY state line.  Here's the GSV for that, with Route 1364 signed (the state line sign was replaced and moved in between shots):

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Es1iHWkMUG1eBccA8

Understood. I guess I just don't understand why that route would be 1364 for part of it and 22 for the other part with basically no intersections of note in between.

kphoger

#80
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 01, 2026, 10:39:43 AMUnderstood. I guess I just don't understand why that route would be 1364 for part of it and 22 for the other part with basically no intersections of note in between.

They're not mutually exclusive.  I think the 1364 number is some sort of Federal Aid designation, but that doesn't mean it isn't also CH-22.  Which is to say, it's both CH-22 and also "Route 1364".  On Utah's AADT map, the segment of "Route 1364PM" is defined as having its eastern endpoint at the Colorado state line.  So that means, even though there's no little "Route 1364" shield near that CH-22 shield you posted, it's still "Route 1364" too.

It took me a while to find a good example, but here's one not too far away:
Redwash Hwy, which is signposted as both "Route 2776" and "Uintah CH-3070".

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

kphoger

#81
Now this has got me learning about RS 2477, which was repealed in 1976, and the questionable status of rights-of-way that were established before that.  Apparently, this is the basis for an ongoing conflict between the state of Utah and its constituent counties and the BLM and wilderness advocacy groups.  The state and counties claim that some 12,000+ "routes" created under RS 2477 should be state/county roads, and they have filed twenty separate lawsuits in federal court already.

A number of these roads are within National Monument or National Park boundaries;  others are within proposed Monument or other proposed wilderness land.  Hence the conflict of interest.

Some of these are roads like Browns Park Rd and Redwash Hwy.  But others look like this, which is supposedly the western end of Cisco Pumphouse 4981 Road:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/68KQUTJyC1qAuKdHA

See it?  I don't either.  (For a video of the eastern couple of miles, see here.)  For the ones that the state or counties are legally pursuing, they have prove that the routes were continuously used for at least ten years before 1976 in order to be grandfathered in.


ETA — It's fun to search that website for dashcam footage of roads that are very rough and wild.  Here's one such:  https://accessmap.utah.gov/#rdid=RD101034

My favorite is at the 9:15 mark.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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kphoger

#82
Quote from: kphoger on April 01, 2026, 10:57:30 AMI think the 1364 number is some sort of Federal Aid designation,

Aha!  Confirmed!



Map of mile posts for Federal Aid roads:
https://opendata.gis.utah.gov/maps/0e99cd4811d344fe93368b001b8d1e51/explore?location=40.854297%2C-109.043531%2C-1

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

pderocco

Quote from: kphoger on April 01, 2026, 09:53:46 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2026, 02:03:31 PMBy the way, I see Google Maps has decided that there's now a Utah SR-1364 from the western end of CO-138 to the Clay Basin Camp Road junction.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/NPCvK1EZ2iAhC1jU9

:facepalm:

Quote from: JayhawkCO on March 31, 2026, 02:11:16 PMIt's been that way for a while on GMaps. It's just signed as CR22. It's a nice drive up that way; I took it on the way to camp at Flaming Gorge.

Hmmmmm.....  I guess it doesn't come out of nowhere.  Here's the western endpoint at the Wyoming line.  Note the number in the route shield.



UDOT identifies the road as route 1364 (Federal Aid) on its maps, too.  This signage matches other Federal Aid routes, such as Route 2804 on nearby Limestone Rd and Route 1370 on NF-218.  Interesting.  I didn't know about these little shields until now.
Given that it's a dirt road in Utah, I think it deserves a bit more Federal Aid.

kphoger

Quote from: kphoger on April 01, 2026, 09:53:46 AMUDOT identifies the road as route 1364 (Federal Aid) on its maps, too.  This signage matches other Federal Aid routes, such as Route 2804 on nearby Limestone Rd and Route 1370 on NF-218.  Interesting.  I didn't know about these little shields until now.

Quote from: pderocco on April 02, 2026, 01:04:45 AMGiven that it's a dirt road in Utah, I think it deserves a bit more Federal Aid.

Browns Park Rd (FA 1364) is entirely paved within Utah.  It only switches to gravel when it hits the Wyoming state line.

Limestone Rd (FA 2804) is paved at that junction, and for 1.8 more miles east of there.

National Forest Road #218 (FA 1370) is paved for its entirety.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

kphoger

Oh, hey, look, |US 89| already identified the road as Federal Aid.

Quote from: US 89 on June 20, 2022, 10:24:13 AMColorado:
- Browns Park Rd/FA 1364 becomes SH 318

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

pderocco

Quote from: kphoger on April 02, 2026, 09:44:31 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 01, 2026, 09:53:46 AMUDOT identifies the road as route 1364 (Federal Aid) on its maps, too.  This signage matches other Federal Aid routes, such as Route 2804 on nearby Limestone Rd and Route 1370 on NF-218.  Interesting.  I didn't know about these little shields until now.

Quote from: pderocco on April 02, 2026, 01:04:45 AMGiven that it's a dirt road in Utah, I think it deserves a bit more Federal Aid.

Browns Park Rd (FA 1364) is entirely paved within Utah.  It only switches to gravel when it hits the Wyoming state line.

Limestone Rd (FA 2804) is paved at that junction, and for 1.8 more miles east of there.

National Forest Road #218 (FA 1370) is paved for its entirety.
You're right. My bad.

MikeTheActuary

Back on the original topic...

I have booked plans to drive from Edmonton to Winnipeg this summer, the first in a sequence of trips I am hoping to take to finish visiting all 13 Canadian provinces and territories, after having gotten my 50th US state a few years ago.   That this trip will make my Canada map on mob-rule less bleak is also a factor in my plans.  (It's been years since I did a respectable county run....)

The trip is, of course, contingent on there not being a gas shortage this year due to the US's "special military operation".  I'm not looking forward to the petrol prices as it is, but it would be unethical for me to take this trip if an actual shortage emerges in the US or Canada.

(I did consider taking the train, but then I'd have to figure out what to do for a day in Edmonton and Winnipeg with a bag in tow...plus I kind of want a couple of days of being able to look out the window in any direction at the prairie, rather than just looking out one side of a train or trying to find a seat in a dome car....)

7/8

#88
I've booked flights for a trip to Ireland in August, with an approx. 4 day visit to Spain early in the trip for seeing the Aug. 12 total solar eclipse (weather permitting!). It'll be my Mom's first trip to Europe, and my Dad's second (he did a short trip to Iceland with my younger brother). My Mom and I have both seen two totalities, while my Dad has not seen any (for reasons I'll never understand, he chose to stay home instead of driving <1.5h to Port Stanley in 2024).

Quote from: MikeTheActuary on April 03, 2026, 09:21:19 AMThe trip is, of course, contingent on there not being a gas shortage this year due to the US's "special military operation".  I'm not looking forward to the petrol prices as it is, but it would be unethical for me to take this trip if an actual shortage emerges in the US or Canada.

My current plan is to have a car in Spain to increase the odds of a successful eclipse viewing, and also for Ireland to explore outside of Dublin. But like you, there's definitely the worry of how things will play out. We may have to pivot to public transit as a backup, but we'll see.

Then again, the entire trip is contingent on flights not being cancelled. Time will tell... :-/

webny99

#89
Took a short road trip to DC & Baltimore area last week. It was the same old routes there and back, so no new counties, but I got the pleasure of driving I-270 in the daylight for the first time and added about 55 miles in TM, mostly in MD and VA. Highlights included finally clinching I-83 and surpassing 500 total miles logged in Maryland, making it my 10th state to reach that milestone.

oscar

Quote from: MikeTheActuary on April 03, 2026, 09:21:19 AMI have booked plans to drive from Edmonton to Winnipeg this summer, the first in a sequence of trips I am hoping to take to finish visiting all 13 Canadian provinces and territories, after having gotten my 50th US state a few years ago.  That this trip will make my Canada map on mob-rule less bleak is also a factor in my plans.  (It's been years since I did a respectable county run....)

A possible side trip from Winnipeg is a round trip flight to Rankin Inlet, to knock Nunavut off your bucket list. But you might prefer to catch a flight on a later trip, from Ottawa or maybe Montreal to territorial capital Iqaluit, IMO a more interesting destination than Rankin Inlet. All these options are really pricey, but that's hard to avoid for Nunavut.

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D-Dey65

The proposed NYC Metro Area trip where my mother gets to see certain relatives and friends before she dies has been delayed until July 2026, due to various other commitments in Florida. That will also give me more time to take care of other local day trip in the region.

MikeTheActuary

Quote from: oscar on April 06, 2026, 11:24:30 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on April 03, 2026, 09:21:19 AMI have booked plans to drive from Edmonton to Winnipeg this summer, the first in a sequence of trips I am hoping to take to finish visiting all 13 Canadian provinces and territories, after having gotten my 50th US state a few years ago.  That this trip will make my Canada map on mob-rule less bleak is also a factor in my plans.  (It's been years since I did a respectable county run....)
A possible side trip from Winnipeg is a round trip flight to Rankin Inlet, to knock Nunavut off your bucket list. But you might prefer to catch a flight on a later trip, from Ottawa or maybe Montreal to territorial capital Iqaluit, IMO a more interesting destination than Rankin Inlet. All these options are really pricey, but that's hard to avoid for Nunavut.

The cool part of finishing the 50 states was that I flew to my 50th state on my 50th birthday.

I'm intending for my 60th birthday to be an element of finishing Canada.  The tentative plan is to spend my 60th birthday flying Iqaluit - Rankin Inlet - Yellowknife...if Canadian North's flight schedule permits.

JayhawkCO

I have a last minute trip planned for next week where I'm visiting my parents in Florida. I decided to fly into Key West and drive so I'll get some new mileage, new counties, and get to do one of my bucket list drives (twice).

kphoger

Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 08, 2026, 07:37:17 AMI have a last minute trip planned for next week where I'm visiting my parents in Florida. I decided to fly into Key West and drive so I'll get some new mileage, new counties, and get to do one of my bucket list drives (twice).

Probably US-441 from Miami to Royal Palm Beach (and back).

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: kphoger on April 08, 2026, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 08, 2026, 07:37:17 AMI have a last minute trip planned for next week where I'm visiting my parents in Florida. I decided to fly into Key West and drive so I'll get some new mileage, new counties, and get to do one of my bucket list drives (twice).

Probably US-441 from Miami to Royal Palm Beach (and back).

Main Park Road from Florida City to Flamingo and back is pretty nice.  I prefer the Everglades Loop Road myself though.

JayhawkCO

Well, I was calling out US1 over the Keys, but happy to entertain any other cool roads to drive. The only things I really aim to make sure I hit are the three South Florida 3dis and trying to clinch the counties in southern Florida that I'm missing - Monroe (which I'll get by definition), Hendry, Glades, Highlands, and Okeechobee. I will be driving back and forth to St. Augustine. (Yeah, I know I could have flown closer, but what's the fun in that?)

JayhawkCO

#97
So now that I actually take a look, I'm thinking heading up to my parents', I'll probably knock out the counties by going:
US1
FL998
FL997
US27
FL78
Reservation Road NE north of Lakeport
FL70
I-95

And then coming back I'll clinch the 3dis going:
I-95
FL70
Florida's Turnpike
FL869
I-595 East to end then turnaround
I-595 West
I-95
I-195
FL907
FLA1A
I-395
FL836
FL826
FL874
Florida' Turnpike
US1

TheHighwayMan3561

I pulled the plug on an international trip for May over fuel shortage concerns. Not worried about getting somewhere, but worried about getting back. So I'm kicking around a more free-form road trip idea. I haven't been to the east coast since 2022 but I also feel pulled to go back to the west.

Hunty2022

Here's my current plans so far, let's see if they fall apart because I mentioned it!

Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg, TN (June)
Cape Charles, VA (July)

Other possible, but unlikely trip ideas I've tossed around:

Cincinnati, OH (May)
Baltimore, MD (End of this month)
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