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formulanone

#375
Between this and the Chuck Norris threads, you'd be forgiven for thinking it's 2012 again.


ClassicHasClass

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 04, 2026, 02:55:27 PMA sandwich has two disconnected pieces of bread.

My wife and I argue over whether a burger is a subtype of a sandwich. She takes the position it is not. I take the position it is, and also the position that she is wrong, which also causes me to take the position of sleeping on the floor.

Scott5114

Quote from: ClassicHasClass on May 04, 2026, 09:46:38 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 04, 2026, 02:55:27 PMA sandwich has two disconnected pieces of bread.

My wife and I argue over whether a burger is a subtype of a sandwich. She takes the position it is not. I take the position it is, and also the position that she is wrong, which also causes me to take the position of sleeping on the floor.

Burger King takes the position that burgers are sandwiches. If the decree of the Burger King isn't good enough for her, I don't know what would be.
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kphoger

#378
What possible argument is there that a hamburger is NOT a type of sandwich?  You put meat between two slices of bread:  that's about as sandwichy as it gets, isn't it?

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formulanone

#379
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 04, 2026, 10:54:10 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on May 04, 2026, 09:46:38 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 04, 2026, 02:55:27 PMA sandwich has two disconnected pieces of bread.

My wife and I argue over whether a burger is a subtype of a sandwich. She takes the position it is not. I take the position it is, and also the position that she is wrong, which also causes me to take the position of sleeping on the floor.

Burger King takes the position that burgers are sandwiches. If the decree of the Burger King isn't good enough for her, I don't know what would be.

I guess that's a decree. Or the seat of power rests with a powerful lawyer in Mattoon, Illinois who has a lot more sway over public opinion.

LilianaUwU

I'm more inclined to say a hot dog is a taco because of its shape.

A hamburger is 100% a sandwich, but it has enough variations to be its own subtype of sandwich.
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kphoger

I don't see how anything can be a taco if it isn't made out of a tortilla.  Isn't the tortilla part of the definition of 'taco'?

A tortilla is a type of bread, but bread is not a type of tortilla.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

GaryV

If a hard-shell taco cracks in half, does that make it a sandwich?

ClassicHasClass

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 04, 2026, 10:54:10 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on May 04, 2026, 09:46:38 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 04, 2026, 02:55:27 PMA sandwich has two disconnected pieces of bread.

My wife and I argue over whether a burger is a subtype of a sandwich. She takes the position it is not. I take the position it is, and also the position that she is wrong, which also causes me to take the position of sleeping on the floor.

Burger King takes the position that burgers are sandwiches. If the decree of the Burger King isn't good enough for her, I don't know what would be.

Ah, see, that explains it. She's Australian, so she'll only listen to Hungry Jack's. I'm only a half-breed, so I'll listen to anyone who agrees with me.

Scott5114

Quote from: ClassicHasClass on May 05, 2026, 09:16:42 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 04, 2026, 10:54:10 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on May 04, 2026, 09:46:38 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 04, 2026, 02:55:27 PMA sandwich has two disconnected pieces of bread.

My wife and I argue over whether a burger is a subtype of a sandwich. She takes the position it is not. I take the position it is, and also the position that she is wrong, which also causes me to take the position of sleeping on the floor.

Burger King takes the position that burgers are sandwiches. If the decree of the Burger King isn't good enough for her, I don't know what would be.

Ah, see, that explains it. She's Australian, so she'll only listen to Hungry Jack's. I'm only a half-breed, so I'll listen to anyone who agrees with me.

I've never understood the logic behind the name "Hungry Jack's". A guy who claims to be hungry despite owning many burgers is trying to get you to buy said burgers off of him. Seems suspicious.
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kphoger

Quote from: GaryV on May 05, 2026, 07:07:09 PMIf a hard-shell taco cracks in half, does that make it a sandwich?

I think it becomes a salad.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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jgb191

Is a fish sandwich still technically a sandwich?
We are located so far south that we're not even considered "The South"

Scott5114

Quote from: jgb191 on May 05, 2026, 11:22:48 PMIs a fish sandwich still technically a sandwich?

Why wouldn't it be? You can have a sandwich with no meat at all; a grilled cheese sandwich and a PB&J is still a sandwich. Chicken and turkey sandwiches are a thing so sandwiches can have meat too, and it's not limited to poultry, since I think everyone would say a BLT is a sandwich.
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kphoger

Quote from: jgb191 on May 05, 2026, 11:22:48 PMIs a fish sandwich still technically a sandwich?

Still?  Did it use to be, but something changed recently?

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 06, 2026, 03:02:51 AMChicken and turkey sandwiches are a thing so sandwiches can have meat too, and it's not limited to poultry, since I think everyone would say a BLT is a sandwich.

Both the Dutch precursor to the sandwich—what we today would call an open-faced sandwich—and also what the 4th Earl of Sandwich was reported to enjoy were typically made with roast beef.  However, ham sandwiches are attested at least as far back as the mid-19th Century.

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 06, 2026, 03:02:51 AMYou can have a sandwich with no meat at all; a grilled cheese sandwich and a PB&J is still a sandwich.

Indeed, the grilled cheese goes back nearly as far.  Here is a recipe from a book published in 1861:



My point, though, in saying that "meat between two slices of bread" is "about as sandwichy as it gets" is that the original sandwich as reportedly eaten by the Earl had meat as its filling.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

jgb191

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 06, 2026, 03:02:51 AM
Quote from: jgb191 on May 05, 2026, 11:22:48 PMIs a fish sandwich still technically a sandwich?

Why wouldn't it be? You can have a sandwich with no meat at all; a grilled cheese sandwich and a PB&J is still a sandwich. Chicken and turkey sandwiches are a thing so sandwiches can have meat too, and it's not limited to poultry, since I think everyone would say a BLT is a sandwich.

With all these technicalities in the posts before mine, I just wanted to make sure.  Besides I was being facetious.  :-D
We are located so far south that we're not even considered "The South"

NWI_Irish96

Grover Cleveland was not the 22nd and 24th President. He was the 22nd President. Benjamin Harrison was the 23rd President, and then the 22nd President resumed the office.

Fast-forwarding, that makes Obama the 43rd President, Trump the 44th President, and Biden the 45th President, with the 44th President resuming the office after Biden.

The next President will be the 46th President (it's safe to assume that Biden will not resume the office).
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Beltway

Quote from: kphoger on May 05, 2026, 09:15:47 AMWhat possible argument is there that a hamburger is NOT a type of sandwich?  You put meat between two slices of bread:  that's about as sandwichy as it gets, isn't it?
How about a ketchup sandwich? A family member made them, two slices of toast buttered and with a layer of ketchup between.

Is that a sandwich? He thought they were.
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Beltway

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on June 26, 2026, 10:00:42 AMGrover Cleveland was not the 22nd and 24th President. He was the 22nd President. Benjamin Harrison was the 23rd President, and then the 22nd President resumed the office.
Fast-forwarding, that makes Obama the 43rd President, Trump the 44th President, and Biden the 45th President, with the 44th President resuming the office after Biden.
The next President will be the 46th President (it's safe to assume that Biden will not resume the office).
Just a small factual note on the presidential numbering, since it comes up a lot. The official system counts terms, not individuals. Grover Cleveland's two non‑consecutive terms are each numbered separately in all federal records (National Archives, Library of Congress, White House listings). That's why he's officially both the 22nd and 24th President.
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wanderer2575

For what it's worth, a Massachusetts court ruled in 2006 that a burrito is not a sandwich.  However, the ruling does leave the "single slice of bread" test up in the air.

JayhawkCO

Quote from: Beltway on June 26, 2026, 10:35:55 AM
Quote from: kphoger on May 05, 2026, 09:15:47 AMWhat possible argument is there that a hamburger is NOT a type of sandwich?  You put meat between two slices of bread:  that's about as sandwichy as it gets, isn't it?
How about a ketchup sandwich? A family member made them, two slices of toast buttered and with a layer of ketchup between.

Is that a sandwich? He thought they were.

Similar to grilled cheese sandwich.

Beltway

Quote from: JayhawkCO on June 26, 2026, 11:09:40 AM
Quote from: Beltway on June 26, 2026, 10:35:55 AMHow about a ketchup sandwich? A family member made them, two slices of toast buttered and with a layer of ketchup between.
Is that a sandwich? He thought they were.
Similar to grilled cheese sandwich.
Good point -- but at least cheese is protein.
Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert Coté, 2002)

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: Beltway on June 26, 2026, 10:39:21 AM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on June 26, 2026, 10:00:42 AMGrover Cleveland was not the 22nd and 24th President. He was the 22nd President. Benjamin Harrison was the 23rd President, and then the 22nd President resumed the office.
Fast-forwarding, that makes Obama the 43rd President, Trump the 44th President, and Biden the 45th President, with the 44th President resuming the office after Biden.
The next President will be the 46th President (it's safe to assume that Biden will not resume the office).
Just a small factual note on the presidential numbering, since it comes up a lot. The official system counts terms, not individuals. Grover Cleveland's two non‑consecutive terms are each numbered separately in all federal records (National Archives, Library of Congress, White House listings). That's why he's officially both the 22nd and 24th President.

Just because it's the official system doesn't mean that it isn't wrong. There have been 45 Presidents, not 47.
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Beltway

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on June 27, 2026, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: Beltway on June 26, 2026, 10:39:21 AM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on June 26, 2026, 10:00:42 AMGrover Cleveland was not the 22nd and 24th President. He was the 22nd President. Benjamin Harrison was the 23rd President, and then the 22nd President resumed the office.
Fast-forwarding, that makes Obama the 43rd President, Trump the 44th President, and Biden the 45th President, with the 44th President resuming the office after Biden.
The next President will be the 46th President (it's safe to assume that Biden will not resume the office).
Just a small factual note on the presidential numbering, since it comes up a lot. The official system counts terms, not individuals. Grover Cleveland's two non‑consecutive terms are each numbered separately in all federal records (National Archives, Library of Congress, White House listings). That's why he's officially both the 22nd and 24th President.
Just because it's the official system doesn't mean that it isn't wrong. There have been 45 Presidents, not 47.
Correct -- 45 presidents, and 47 presidential administrations.
Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
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Scott5114

#398
It is a little odd that for consecutive terms the number doesn't change, but for non-consecutive terms they do.

It is a little more odd that Doctor Who apparently works the same way.
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bugo

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on June 26, 2026, 10:00:42 AMGrover Cleveland was not the 22nd and 24th President. He was the 22nd President. Benjamin Harrison was the 23rd President, and then the 22nd President resumed the office.

Fast-forwarding, that makes Obama the 43rd President, Trump the 44th President, and Biden the 45th President, with the 44th President resuming the office after Biden.

The next President will be the 46th President (it's safe to assume that Biden will not resume the office).

If the current guy somehow gets the Constitution nullified and runs again, it won't be safe to assume that Obama will not resume the office.