Gordie Howe Bridge (US-Canada)

[kphoger]

You seem irritated. Why?

I find both your unfulfilled promise and your unwillingness to admit you were wrong to be most impleasing.

[vdeane]

Alright are the rumors true about the speed limit being 30mph / 50km/h on the bridge?

I wouldn't be surprised considering you have to stop for customs immediately after crossing the bridge.

Still, at 1.5 miles long, that's long enough for a 30 mph limit to feel very, very slow unless a traffic backup makes the speed limit irrelevant.  What's with governments posting low speed limits way in advance of things?  My car drops speed fast enough even without the brakes that I don't need the limit dropped two miles in advance.  At least it's better than Lewiston (15 mph).

Granted, governments seem to like posting low speed limits on bridges period for some reason.  I don't understand it.

As far as I'm concerned, if a speed limit is low enough that you have to think really hard to avoid subconsciously exceeding it, then it's way too low.

What are the speed limits on the Ambassador Bridge and the Blue Water Bridge?

Not sure of the Ambassador, but the Blue Water Bridge appears to be the same.

[Beltway]

You seem irritated. Why?

I find both your unfulfilled promise and your unwillingness to admit you were wrong to be most impleasing.

You're treating a normal prediction as a 'promise' because you want something to nitpick. The bridge is opening now -- that's the actual news. If your contribution to a major regional milestone is semantic point‑scoring, that says more about your posting priorities than mine.

[kphoger]

You're treating a normal prediction as a 'promise' because you want something to nitpick. The bridge is opening now -- that's the actual news. If your contribution to a major regional milestone is semantic point‑scoring, that says more about your posting priorities than mine.

Relax. Relax. Relax.

I'll lay off it in the next month or so.

[MikeTheActuary]

The CBC suggests that the bridge's opening isn't guaranteed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gordie-howe-bridge-open-9.7228238

[Beltway]

You're treating a normal prediction as a 'promise' because you want something to nitpick. The bridge is opening now -- that's the actual news. If your contribution to a major regional milestone is semantic point‑scoring, that says more about your posting priorities than mine.

Relax. Relax. Relax.
I'll lay off it in the next month or so.

If you're done padding your post count with this, great. The bridge opens in days. That's the real news.

[Max Rockatansky]

You're treating a normal prediction as a 'promise' because you want something to nitpick. The bridge is opening now -- that's the actual news. If your contribution to a major regional milestone is semantic point‑scoring, that says more about your posting priorities than mine.

Relax. Relax. Relax.
I'll lay off it in the next month or so.

If you're done padding your post count with this, great. The bridge opens in days. That's the real news.

You do know that you don't have to reply to every last person who doesn't agree with you or challenges the things you say?  Yeah, Kyle brought your previous predictions regarding the opening of the Gordie Howe Bridge.  Thing is nobody is making you reply to him but yourself.  Kind of the pot calling the kettle black when it has become abundantly clear that you are almost fully incapable of not backing down from needless arguments.

Also, check the reply previous to yours.  It seems the CBC has a differing on when the bridge might actually open.   

[webny99]

Alright are the rumors true about the speed limit being 30mph / 50km/h on the bridge?

If true, that would be high-speed for an international bridge crossing. Lewiston-Queenston and Rainbow are a painstaking 15 mph.

[Beltway]

You're treating a normal prediction as a 'promise' because you want something to nitpick. The bridge is opening now -- that's the actual news. If your contribution to a major regional milestone is semantic point‑scoring, that says more about your posting priorities than mine.

Relax. Relax. Relax. I'll lay off it in the next month or so.

If you're done padding your post count with this, great. The bridge opens in days. That's the real news.

You do know that you don't have to reply to every last person who doesn't agree with you or challenges the things you say?  Yeah, Kyle brought your previous predictions regarding the opening of the Gordie Howe Bridge.  Thing is nobody is making you reply to him but yourself.  Kind of the pot calling the kettle black when it has become abundantly clear that you are almost fully incapable of not backing down from needless arguments.
Also, check the reply previous to yours.  It seems the CBC has a differing on when the bridge might actually open. 

He keeps reviving a months‑old prediction so he can nitpick it again. I'm not obligated to let misstatements sit uncorrected. If he wants the cycle to end, he can stop restarting it.

[LilianaUwU]

The CBC suggests that the bridge's opening isn't guaranteed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gordie-howe-bridge-open-9.7228238

Of course the Ambassador Bridge company is run by people that are closely related to the current American administration.

[vdeane]

The CBC suggests that the bridge's opening isn't guaranteed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gordie-howe-bridge-open-9.7228238

What would happen if Canada were to block the Ambassador until Trump lets the Gordie Howe open?

Alright are the rumors true about the speed limit being 30mph / 50km/h on the bridge?

If true, that would be high-speed for an international bridge crossing. Lewiston-Queenston and Rainbow are a painstaking 15 mph.

I would think that Rainbow and Lewiston are low-speed.  I'm not sure what the Peace Bridge is currently, but there were 50 kph signs when street view last drove through.  Ogdensburg is 25 mph.  Seaway is 50 kph.  And the latter two are narrow enough (with Ogdensburg having a steel grate deck) that the speeds don't feel as slow as one would think.

Even the Thousand Islands Bridge crossing was traditionally 35mph  when crossing between the island border, although it seems like the 5 mph speed limit heading into the US is permanent (in fact, the first 65 sign on I-81 is two miles south of there, so that's a long time to be legally stuck at 5 mph!).

I'm not sure why there seems to be a rule of having speed limits on international bridges on the lower end.  Other crossings don't.  US 11 is 45 mph on the three quarters of a mile between the border stations.

[LilianaUwU]

The CBC suggests that the bridge's opening isn't guaranteed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gordie-howe-bridge-open-9.7228238

What would happen if Canada were to block the Ambassador until Trump lets the Gordie Howe open?

This would imply that Mark Carney has a spine.

[Plutonic Panda]

This article from the 8th suggests it opens Friday:

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/gordie-howe-international-bridge-ribbon-cutting-scheduled-friday

Another article from June 8th by Roads and Bridges:

https://www.roadsbridges.com/bridge-construction/news/55382777/construction-is-nearly-complete-but-gordie-howe-bridge-still-awaits-green-light

And a Mileage Mike Video:

[MikeTheActuary]

The CBC suggests that the bridge's opening isn't guaranteed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gordie-howe-bridge-open-9.7228238

What would happen if Canada were to block the Ambassador until Trump lets the Gordie Howe open?

This would imply that Mark Carney has a spine.

Carney at least has the brains and political fortitude to be capable of balancing the conflicting goals of not giving in to the US's Glorious Leader's whims, and not unnecessarily provoking him.

Whether he does so is, in fairness, a question whose answer will vary somewhat depending on one's perspective.

[oscar]

Looks like the bridge opening will be indefinitely delayed again.

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/cp-newsalert-wdba-interim-ceo-123019589.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/gordie-howe-bridge-opening-officially-delayed-no-date-given/

[Sani]

The source said the Windsor-Detroit Bridge Authority — a Canadian Crown corporation responsible for the construction and administration of the bridge — has all the technical approvals it needs to proceed.

The Associated Press reported that the bridge opening was moving forward after conversations between Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and White House chief of staff Susie Wiles.

The plans were thrown into disarray after Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick pushed back on the opening, the Associated Press reported, citing two people with knowledge of the matter who insisted on anonymity to discuss the private talks.

Welp. Should've known someone in DC was going to throw a tantrum and stop it from opening. At this point, they'll have to just hold a "soft opening" and not tell anyone at the White House until traffic's already moving.

[GaryV]

Front page story in the Detroit News today, headlined "Left Hanging".

US is still seeking a "better deal". Better than they paid for the whole thing?

[ClassicHasClass]

Yes. They can pay for the whole thing and maintain it but the US owns it. A huge deal.

(Joking aside, which would be exceptionally unpopular in the Great White North and Carney would never agree to it anyway.)

[Rothman]

I hate this timeline.

[oscar]

Welp. Should've known someone in DC was going to throw a tantrum and stop it from opening. At this point, they'll have to just hold a "soft opening" and not tell anyone at the White House until traffic's already moving.

You can't do a full "soft opening" without help from the Homeland Security department, to among other things supply border agents on the U.S. side. The recently-confirmed DHS secretary, who gave up his U.S. Senate seat for that position, is unlikely to cooperate, whatever his personal views on the bridge.

[vdeane]

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the bridge doesn't open until 2029.

[kphoger]

Front page story in the Detroit News today, headlined "Left Hanging".

NSFW?

[hotdogPi]

Front page story in the Detroit News today, headlined "Left Hanging".

NSFW?

no, it's the exact same wordplay as "British Left Waffles on Falklands"

(actually serious here, unless I'm giving Detroit News too much credit for a pun that doesn't actually exist)

[ElishaGOtis]

 

[Max Rockatansky]

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the bridge doesn't open until 2029.

We should run a pool on where the actual opening will fall between Spring 2026 and 2029.