Oddities that defy conventional wisdom - POPULATION edition

[Ted$8roadFan]

Isn't Baltimore also a county-equivalent city?

[Rothman]

I don't expect the Blues to leave St. Louis anytime soon. The city of St. Louis may be hemorrhaging population, but the metro area as a whole is not. And the Blues still draw well, even when they're not any good.

Road Hog is absolutely right that the city of St. Louis separating from the rest of the county was a terrible decision in hindsight. In 1877 what is now St. Louis County was still rural and relatively unpopulated and the city didn't want its tax dollars being spent out there, which is kind of ironic because now St. Louis County steadfastly opposes re-consolidating with the city for the same reason. I personally think this is kind of short-sighted, because St. Louis City continuing to wither on the vine does not help the County in the long run. St. Louis City would like to merge with the county again, but the county wants none of it and Jefferson City won't force the issue, because they don't want to upset St. Louis County voters. For that reason St. Louis City and County becoming one again is one of those things that really should happen but probably never will.

If a hemorrhaging population was the requirement for a professional team move, the Packers would have moved long ago...

[oscar]

Isn't Baltimore also a county-equivalent city?

Baltimore city is separate from (but mostly surrounded by) Baltimore County. Similar to St. Louis city/St. Louis County in Missouri.

[Ted$8roadFan]

None of Cleveland's and Detroit's teams will be leaving anytime soon.

[bulldog1979]

I don't expect the Blues to leave St. Louis anytime soon. The city of St. Louis may be hemorrhaging population, but the metro area as a whole is not. And the Blues still draw well, even when they're not any good.

Road Hog is absolutely right that the city of St. Louis separating from the rest of the county was a terrible decision in hindsight. In 1877 what is now St. Louis County was still rural and relatively unpopulated and the city didn't want its tax dollars being spent out there, which is kind of ironic because now St. Louis County steadfastly opposes re-consolidating with the city for the same reason. I personally think this is kind of short-sighted, because St. Louis City continuing to wither on the vine does not help the County in the long run. St. Louis City would like to merge with the county again, but the county wants none of it and Jefferson City won't force the issue, because they don't want to upset St. Louis County voters. For that reason St. Louis City and County becoming one again is one of those things that really should happen but probably never will.

If a hemorrhaging population was the requirement for a professional team move, the Packers would have moved long ago...

Green Bay isn't "hemorrhaging population". The population of the city is down about 1,000 residents since the 2020 census, or a less than 1% drop, while Brown County is up 3.5% since the census. Otherwise, Green Bay's population has increased in every US census.

[GaryV]

Green Bay isn't "hemorrhaging population".

On a recent visit, we thought Downtown Green Bay, and the nearby Broadway neighborhood across the river, were both up and coming areas being redeveloped.

[kphoger]

If a hemorrhaging population was the requirement for a professional team move, the Packers would have moved long ago...

Green Bay isn't "hemorrhaging population". The population of the city is down about 1,000 residents since the 2020 census, or a less than 1% drop, while Brown County is up 3.5% since the census. Otherwise, Green Bay's population has increased in every US census.

There, is that better?

[Max Rockatansky]

If a hemorrhaging population was the requirement for a professional team move, the Packers would have moved long ago...

Green Bay isn't "hemorrhaging population". The population of the city is down about 1,000 residents since the 2020 census, or a less than 1% drop, while Brown County is up 3.5% since the census. Otherwise, Green Bay's population has increased in every US census.

There, is that better?

Everyone knows they are the Milwaukee market team.  They even used to play a couple of their home games there for years. 

[TheHighwayMan3561]

If a hemorrhaging population was the requirement for a professional team move, the Packers would have moved long ago...

Green Bay isn't "hemorrhaging population". The population of the city is down about 1,000 residents since the 2020 census, or a less than 1% drop, while Brown County is up 3.5% since the census. Otherwise, Green Bay's population has increased in every US census.

There, is that better?

Everyone knows they are the Milwaukee market team.  They even used to play a couple of their home games there for years. 

They still have a specific ticket package prioritizing Milwaukee-based fans a couple games a year as well. Beyond that, the state worships the team as a whole. There's not really any other team like it (even as much as I hate them).