I-99: What would you number it?

[Michael]

I would make US 220 between I-80 and Williamsport as I-x80 or I-x83. Similarly, I-99 from Bedford and I-80 could be I-x70, I-x76, or I-x80. By the way, I would not truncate US 15, i would extend it to Rochester since I like US Highways.

US 15 went to Rochester until 1974.  It's now NY 15.

The page for the US 11/15 Selinsgrove extension is http://www.csvt.com

[mightyace]

The page for the US 11/15 Selinsgrove extension is http://www.csvt.com

Thanks, that is exactly the site that I had stumbled upon.

[Michael]

The page for the US 11/15 Selinsgrove extension is http://www.csvt.com

Thanks, that is exactly the site that I had stumbled upon.

I keep track of the US 15 corridor because I travel to Selinsgrove on US 15 (and I-180) from New York.

[un1]

Who said it was out of place...?

Looks like there is a Interstate 101 is planned...
Wikipedia
AARoads (Interstate Guide)

[vdeane]

I sure hope not.  I-101 should be a spur of I-1 (should one ever be built).  Just because there is a US 101 doesn't mean that there should be an I-101.  I would like to think that the interstate numbering system is more orderly than the US route numbers, which has spurs that are just as long as the parent route, "spurs" with no parent, and violations of the even-odd number practice (like US 62).  I would hate to see the interstates go down the same path, but I fear it has already begun.

[Sykotyk]

I'd call it, the I-BUD, aka the Big Useless Detour.

Sykotyk

[Michael]

I'd call it, the I-BUD, aka the Big Useless Detour.

Sykotyk

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

[Hellfighter]

How about moving all the interstates over? So, I-99 would become I-81, I-83 would take I-81's place, and turn I-83 into a northern I-85 and keeping the number system with I-87.

[Darkchylde]

Honestly, I'd renumber I-99 as I-73. Reasons include that both utilize the US 220 corridor, and also the fact that Ohio and Michigan will likely never build their segments.

[mightyace]

Honestly, I'd renumber I-99 as I-73. Reasons include that both utilize the US 220 corridor, and also the fact that Ohio and Michigan will likely never build their segments.

Sounds as good as anything, I've heard.  Plus, it's not as far "out of sequence" as I-99 is.

[DrZoidberg]

I'm for keeping it US 220.  And I-101?  Geez! No!

[exit322]

There is precedent for a "major" I-101, in that of US 101 in California.  So though it'd look funky (at least there's a US 1 on the other side of the country), I wouldn't have a big problem with it.

[mightyace]

There is precedent for a "major" I-101, in that of US 101 in California.  So though it'd look funky (at least there's a US 1 on the other side of the country), I wouldn't have a big problem with it.

OK, if we renumbered it as I-101, what would a spur interstate be numbered?  (I know that that's unlikely on the current/proposed/speculated I-99 alignment and that enough other I-xx's exist to use one of them.)

[Michael]

There is precedent for a "major" I-101, in that of US 101 in California.  So though it'd look funky (at least there's a US 1 on the other side of the country), I wouldn't have a big problem with it.

OK, if we renumbered it as I-101, what would a spur interstate be numbered?  (I know that that's unlikely on the current/proposed/speculated I-99 alignment and that enough other I-xx's exist to use one of them.)

I-1101 through I-9101?

[Darkchylde]

Honestly, I'd renumber I-99 as I-73. Reasons include that both utilize the US 220 corridor, and also the fact that Ohio and Michigan will likely never build their segments.

Sounds as good as anything, I've heard.  Plus, it's not as far "out of sequence" as I-99 is.

It'd also free up I-99 for a coastal Interstate, eliminating the concern about what to call I-101 loops/spurs.

[AZDude]

What should have happened in the first place was to have the current I-95 numbered I-99 since it rides mainly along the Atlantic coast.  Then the current I-99 could have gotten the 95 designation.

[74/171FAN]

from AZDude: What should have happened in the first place was to have the current I-95 numbered I-99 since it rides mainly along the Atlantic coast.  Then the current I-99 could have gotten the 95 designation.

Then we'd be debating on why I-95 isn't east of I-81 and we'd be back to square one   I go for it just staying US 220 myself.

[Crazy Volvo Guy]

I-776 or I-580.

Or how 'bout US 220?  What's soooooooo wrong with that?  Oh, wait, right; Bud wanted an INTERSTATE to service Altoona.  What he forgets is the US routes *ARE* Interstates.

[vdeane]

US Highways are a completely different highway system which was made mostly obsolete when the Interstates were put in (though today some areas are served by US highways but not an interstate, or may have very little access to the interstate).  Personally I think most should be made into state highways.

[leifvanderwall]

I would renumber the current I-99 to I-199 and move I-99 onto the US 219 corridor for a route to Buffalo. And I would extend I-99 southernly onto the US 522 corridor (via I-70 Breezewood stub) to terminate at I-81 in Winchester, VA.

[J N Winkler]

Just a few observations:

*  I think I-99 is the least bad Interstate numbering for the corridor in question.  The other options all involve (1) disruptive renumberings of the existing network, (2) out-of-sequence numbering, (3) large discontinuities in signing which have to be "wished away" by theorizing hidden concurrencies, and (4) simply not installing I-99 signs.

*  Option (4) in my view is legally supported and is the option least likely to offend numbering purists.  It is, however, politically unpalatable.  There is nothing in either ISTEA 1991 or NHSDA 1995 which requires that I-99 must be signed, or even that the HPC must be developed to full Interstate standard, but by applying the I-99 label to the corridor, Bud Shuster cemented an expectation among the communities along the route that it would be built as an Interstate and signed as an Interstate, and that they would get all the economic-development benefits associated with a blue line on the map.  Anyone who steps out in front of that gravy train, whether road enthusiast or FHWA official, will get crushed.

[njunderground]

Anything would be better than I-99 IMO. Makes me think, "I-99? So that must go to where...Bermuda?" lol

[hbelkins]

Anyone who steps out in front of that gravy train, whether road enthusiast or FHWA official, will get crushed.

Honestly, I have no problems with the I-99 designation, although I wish Pennsylvania had not decided to cancel improving US 220 south to the Maryland state line so it would connect with I-68. It's not *that* out of sequence, and ideally once the improvements to US 220 and US 15 in PA and NY are done, it should replace I-390 at least to the Thruway if not all the way to I-490. It will be longer than I-68, and no one that I can recall argued for that route to stay US 48 instead of getting an interstate designation.

No one gets bent out of shape over I-24 or I-26 or I-85 being out of sequence, or I-69 once it is extended.

[Brandon]

There was nothing wrong with US-220.  If Grand Rapids, MI can have US-131 as a major freeway, Altoona, PA can have US-220 as a freeway.

[vtk]

Declare that an error of ±50 is acceptable to ease number shortages.  I-99 can then become I-31, and northern California gets nine more numbers (the x30s) to use.