New Jersey Turnpike

[roadman]

No the red flag has not caught on like the green stamp for  the NJ Turnpike (the name used on the CB radio in the 80's) and the yellow and green Parkway icons.

"The green stamp" has been standard CB lingo for any toll road since the early 1970s, and is not unique to the NJ Turnpike.

[artmalk]

But it would seem that the term "Green Stamp" would have started with the NJ Turnpike, given the similarity of its logo to that of S&H Green Stamps.  Younger people may not remember but in the past people would clip "green stamps" to save money at the supermarket.

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[NJRoadfan]

There are also reassurance markers just past Exit 10 and Exit 11 going NB. Assuming that we'll soon see these beyond every entrance in the not too distant future.

They are at Exit 9 too. Didn't see any south of there down to Exit 1. The NJTP shields used look like kontractor specials though, like someone drew them in paint. Hopefully they get replaced with spec shields.

[storm2k]

There are also reassurance markers just past Exit 10 and Exit 11 going NB. Assuming that we'll soon see these beyond every entrance in the not too distant future.

They are at Exit 9 too. Didn't see any south of there down to Exit 1. The NJTP shields used look like kontractor specials though, like someone drew them in paint. Hopefully they get replaced with spec shields.

They all look basically the same and are popping up all along looking identical. dunno if they're contractor jobs or what, but the Turnpike shields are not well rendered.

[roadman65]

It would be great to see shields post interchange go up as only the I-95 and TO I-95 (south of Exit 10) were the only reassurance info you received.  Pretty much many toll roads do not post reassurance for their roadways, but since I see it in Florida, it seems like a good idea.

Though I grew up near the Parkway and it seemed normal for a unnumbered road to not have them, for some reason now on the NJ Turnpike it seems okay to add them.  I imagine being such an undertaking it will be done in phases as part of other projects rather than devote a whole entire project to just adding them alone.

[storm2k]

It would be great to see shields post interchange go up as only the I-95 and TO I-95 (south of Exit 10) were the only reassurance info you received.  Pretty much many toll roads do not post reassurance for their roadways, but since I see it in Florida, it seems like a good idea.

Though I grew up near the Parkway and it seemed normal for a unnumbered road to not have them, for some reason now on the NJ Turnpike it seems okay to add them.  I imagine being such an undertaking it will be done in phases as part of other projects rather than devote a whole entire project to just adding them alone.

I like that they include the NJTP shield as well. They already use the shield alone south of Exit 6 on some pullthrus, and most people know the Turnpike as such already. It helps, rather than hinders, motorists I believe.

[famartin]

It would be great to see shields post interchange go up as only the I-95 and TO I-95 (south of Exit 10) were the only reassurance info you received.  Pretty much many toll roads do not post reassurance for their roadways, but since I see it in Florida, it seems like a good idea.

Though I grew up near the Parkway and it seemed normal for a unnumbered road to not have them, for some reason now on the NJ Turnpike it seems okay to add them.  I imagine being such an undertaking it will be done in phases as part of other projects rather than devote a whole entire project to just adding them alone.

I like that they include the NJTP shield as well. They already use the shield alone south of Exit 6 on some pullthrus, and most people know the Turnpike as such already. It helps, rather than hinders, motorists I believe.

Overall I definitely like the signing changes that have come to the turnpike over the last few years.  In a way I'll miss their own special designs, but at the same time, its nice to see proper MUTCD (and Highway Gothic) in heavy use. 

[ixnay]

But it would seem that the term "Green Stamp" would have started with the NJ Turnpike, given the similarity of its logo to that of S&H Green Stamps.  Younger people may not remember but in the past people would clip "green stamps" to save money at the supermarket.

SM-G960U

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%26H_Green_Stamps

ixnay

[roadman65]

https://goo.gl/maps/JfdJ1LYyPio4R5zM6  What is up with double lights at the Exit 8A toll plaza?

[Alps]

https://goo.gl/maps/JfdJ1LYyPio4R5zM6  What is up with double lights at the Exit 8A toll plaza?

Never noticed that and could probably dig up an answer for you, but my initial thought is that it took two smaller bulbs to provide sufficiently uniform illumination of the entire plaza area vs. one larger bulb at each spot, and this helped minimize the number of light poles.

[roadman65]

Yeah it probably is that even though odd. But the new white lights soon will remedy that when the NJTA has that interchange lighting updated soon.

[Roadwarriors79]

I am also a fan of some of the signing changes over the years. I have seen in the past that NJTA had some signing plans that included a "North NJTP to I-95" pull through sign. Wonder if that would actually be in the field in the future (south of Exit 6).

[roadman]

But it would seem that the term "Green Stamp" would have started with the NJ Turnpike, given the similarity of its logo to that of S&H Green Stamps.  Younger people may not remember but in the past people would clip "green stamps" to save money at the supermarket.

SM-G960U

The term "Green Stamp" is CB lingo for money.  "Green Stamp Road" was the original CB term for a toll road, but it was usually shortened to "Green Stamp" or "The Green Stamp".  However, IMO it's unlikely that either term was inspired by or related to the New Jersey Turnpike logo.

And I recall S&H Green Stamps very well, as my parents religiously collected them in my childhood years.

[bluecountry]

It was interesting on the NJTP to see yet another new sign, this time at MM 62 NB, it now says "˜New York City-90 miles.'

What's up with all these new signs, I think they're great.
I recall there used to be a sign in Cherry Hill saying "˜New York-90 miles' but that's long gone (anybody know the story on that)?

I find it interesting how the NJTP now references "˜New York City' instead of "˜New York.'
Anybody know if more mileage signs have or are coming?

[interstate73]

I find it interesting how the NJTP now references "˜New York City' instead of "˜New York.'
Anybody know if more mileage signs have or are coming?

I know I-80 and I-78 list NYC as "New York City" so I suppose that's bringing the NJTA in line with NJDOT control city standards.

Brief aside but I do find it interesting how each component state of the Tri-State refers to the central metropole differently. NJ uses "New York City", NY uses "New York*", and CT uses, pretty inexplicably imo, "N.Y. City" (people generally call it New York, New York City, NYC or the City, but never NY City). It does make sense in NJ and CT to explicitly reference the City of New York to avoid confusion since they both have roads that lead to the State of New York but away from the City (I-287, NJ-17, GSP, PIP in NJ, I-84 in CT). Meanwhile within New York since you're already in the State of New York there's no confusion over what's being referenced.

(*it would seem Rockland County generally uses New York City but being a west-of-Hudson suburb it is functionally grouped with NJ in many cases. Not sure why NYSTA would sign it differently here though)

[storm2k]

I find it interesting how the NJTP now references "˜New York City' instead of "˜New York.'
Anybody know if more mileage signs have or are coming?

MassDOT uses NY City for the exit for I-84, but that may be a holdover from when MassPike was its own agency.

Also, NJDOT's usage is all over the place. Newer signs (for the most part) will spell out the full New York City, but other signs still use just New York. Sadly, north of 9, the Turnpike Authority seems hesitant to use anything, even though I still think it should use New York City thru 14, then put up some signs to say something to the effect of

New York City via
--------------------
Holland Tunnel - 14C
Lincoln Tunnel - 16E
Geo Washington Br - 18W

And have all pullthrus north of there specify the crossing, as that is more useful guidance than the city name at that point. Sadly all the pullthrus when they replaced signage from 9 northward neither include a destination city, nor space for one.
I know I-80 and I-78 list NYC as "New York City" so I suppose that's bringing the NJTA in line with NJDOT control city standards.

Brief aside but I do find it interesting how each component state of the Tri-State refers to the central metropole differently. NJ uses "New York City", NY uses "New York*", and CT uses, pretty inexplicably imo, "N.Y. City" (people generally call it New York, New York City, NYC or the City, but never NY City). It does make sense in NJ and CT to explicitly reference the City of New York to avoid confusion since they both have roads that lead to the State of New York but away from the City (I-287, NJ-17, GSP, PIP in NJ, I-84 in CT). Meanwhile within New York since you're already in the State of New York there's no confusion over what's being referenced.

(*it would seem Rockland County generally uses New York City but being a west-of-Hudson suburb it is functionally grouped with NJ in many cases. Not sure why NYSTA would sign it differently here though)

[PHLBOS]

There are also reassurance markers just past Exit 10 and Exit 11 going NB. Assuming that we'll soon see these beyond every entrance in the not too distant future.

During my recent trip to/from MA; I noticed some additional I-95 & NJTP reassurance markers posted south of Exit 10.  A couple things I've noticed were:

1.  Wooden posts are used en lieu of steel; the now-missing northbound reassurance assembly just north of Exit 6 was also on a wooden post but the southbound one at MM 65 that's been there for a few months uses a steel 'box' channel post.

and

2.  Additional wooden diagonal bracing, what one used to see for temporary/construction signage, is also present on said-newer signs on wooden posts.

[vdeane]

I find it interesting how the NJTP now references "˜New York City' instead of "˜New York.'
Anybody know if more mileage signs have or are coming?

I know I-80 and I-78 list NYC as "New York City" so I suppose that's bringing the NJTA in line with NJDOT control city standards.

Brief aside but I do find it interesting how each component state of the Tri-State refers to the central metropole differently. NJ uses "New York City", NY uses "New York*", and CT uses, pretty inexplicably imo, "N.Y. City" (people generally call it New York, New York City, NYC or the City, but never NY City). It does make sense in NJ and CT to explicitly reference the City of New York to avoid confusion since they both have roads that lead to the State of New York but away from the City (I-287, NJ-17, GSP, PIP in NJ, I-84 in CT). Meanwhile within New York since you're already in the State of New York there's no confusion over what's being referenced.

(*it would seem Rockland County generally uses New York City but being a west-of-Hudson suburb it is functionally grouped with NJ in many cases. Not sure why NYSTA would sign it differently here though)

I'm pretty sure whether a sign says "New York" or "New York City" in NY is mainly a function of whether it's a recent install or not.  Newer signage says "New York City" in my experience while older signage simply says "New York".

[Alps]

It was interesting on the NJTP to see yet another new sign, this time at MM 62 NB, it now says "˜New York City-90 miles.'

What's up with all these new signs, I think they're great.
I recall there used to be a sign in Cherry Hill saying "˜New York-90 miles' but that's long gone (anybody know the story on that)?

I find it interesting how the NJTP now references "˜New York City' instead of "˜New York.'
Anybody know if more mileage signs have or are coming?

I hope you mean 60 miles since GWB is at MP 122 in the Turnpike system. The mileage signs kinda took me by surprise too so I couldn't tell you the plans. I don't like this one though, because you can get to New York City (Staten Island) much sooner than 60 miles, or even Manhattan via 78 (and look, staying on the Turnpike system).

[PHLBOS]

It was interesting on the NJTP to see yet another new sign, this time at MM 62 NB, it now says "˜New York City-90 miles.'

What's up with all these new signs, I think they're great.
I recall there used to be a sign in Cherry Hill saying "˜New York-90 miles' but that's long gone (anybody know the story on that)?

I find it interesting how the NJTP now references "˜New York City' instead of "˜New York.'
Anybody know if more mileage signs have or are coming?

I hope you mean 60 miles since GWB is at MP 122 in the Turnpike system. The mileage signs kinda took me by surprise too so I couldn't tell you the plans. I don't like this one though, because you can get to New York City (Staten Island) much sooner than 60 miles, or even Manhattan via 78 (and look, staying on the Turnpike system).

Maybe a better option for that location would be to display 3 mileage options to NYC via key routes.

Example:

             New York City
-----------------------------------------
VIA 440 Outerbridge Crossing      XX
VIA 78 Holland Tunnel                 YY
VIA 95 GW Bridge                       ZZ

[storm2k]

There are also reassurance markers just past Exit 10 and Exit 11 going NB. Assuming that we'll soon see these beyond every entrance in the not too distant future.

During my recent trip to/from MA; I noticed some additional I-95 & NJTP reassurance markers posted south of Exit 10.  A couple things I've noticed were:

1.  Wooden posts are used en lieu of steel; the now-missing northbound reassurance assembly just north of Exit 6 was also on a wooden post but the southbound one at MM 65 that's been there for a few months uses a steel 'box' channel post.

and

2.  Additional wooden diagonal bracing, what one used to see for temporary/construction signage, is also present on said-newer signs on wooden posts.

I was thinking that the bracing was while they waited for the concrete base pour to cure properly and then it will be removed.

[PHLBOS]

There are also reassurance markers just past Exit 10 and Exit 11 going NB. Assuming that we'll soon see these beyond every entrance in the not too distant future.

During my recent trip to/from MA; I noticed some additional I-95 & NJTP reassurance markers posted south of Exit 10.  A couple things I've noticed were:

1.  Wooden posts are used en lieu of steel; the now-missing northbound reassurance assembly just north of Exit 6 was also on a wooden post but the southbound one at MM 65 that's been there for a few months uses a steel 'box' channel post.

and

2.  Additional wooden diagonal bracing, what one used to see for temporary/construction signage, is also present on said-newer signs on wooden posts.

I was thinking that the bracing was while they waited for the concrete base pour to cure properly and then it will be removed.

We'll see if that's the case the next time I use that stretch.  The earliest of those wooden post installs w/the bracing was no later than the Wednesday before Thanksgiving... a little past the 28-day curing period.

[NJRoadfan]

The bracing was still there on Dec. 22nd.

[Don'tKnowYet]

It was interesting on the NJTP to see yet another new sign, this time at MM 62 NB, it now says "˜New York City-90 miles.'

What's up with all these new signs, I think they're great.
I recall there used to

I hope you mean 60 miles since GWB is at MP 122 in the Turnpike system. The mileage signs kinda took me by surprise too so I couldn't tell you the plans. I don't like this one though, because you can get to New York City (Staten Island) much sooner than 60 miles, or even Manhattan via 78 (and look, staying on the Turnpike system).

The sign is for the continuity of the Interstate.  95 takes one over the GW Bridge.  Its an AASHTO thing. 

[Roadwarriors79]

Saw a new mileage sign SB somwhere south of Exit 4. Cities listed were Wlmington, Baltimore, and Washington DC. At that sign, DC was 140 miles away.