New Jersey Turnpike

[Ned Weasel]

I wonder if when the Turnpike goes all AET they will build proper freeway to freeway interchanges with I-195, I-287, the Parkway, etc. The exit 10 almost circle is probably the most embarrassing, especially since it was going to be the thru movement for I-95 had the Somerset Freeway not been cancelled. 

Nope, as none of the above was included in the overall capital plan. And especially at 287 & the GSP, there's no real room to do it anyway.

I hope they at least stripe the lanes where the toll plazas used to be, instead of doing this: https://goo.gl/maps/rz49xtkWtqRd5NmRA

[dgolub]

Judging by today's roadwaywiz live drive, it looks like I-95 is now pervasively signed on the northbound pull-through signs.  Finally - it's about time!

Also southbound, except at 8A.

Yep, looks like "THRU TRAFFIC" is gone.  I'll need to find an excuse to take a trip down in that direction some time in the spring when the pandemic situation is (hopefully) better and get some new pictures.

The pandemic hasn't stopped me all year.  I visited NJ in April, and I roamed NJ and MD like a mad man starting in May. Kept up til mid November, mainly stopping because I prefer my road pictures to have more colors than just gray and brown in the background. But I'll be visiting NJ monthly just like always all winter, pandemic and travel restrictions be damned.

For the most part, I've kept my roadgeeking within a 50-75 miles radius of where I live so that I don't need to use public bathrooms.  I made a couple of exceptions during the summer and fall, but now that the case numbers are spiraling out of control, I'm keeping my trips short enough that I can be back home in 3-4 hours.

[famartin]

I'm not sure if this is an NJDOT or NJTA install, but its possibly the only sign with both PATP and NJTP trailblazers. Now if only they'd put a sign like this on the mainline instead of just here on 130...

[jeffandnicole]

I'm not sure if this is an NJDOT or NJTA install, but its possibly the only sign with both PATP and NJTP trailblazers. Now if only they'd put a sign like this on the mainline instead of just here on 130...

I believe that's a NJ Tpk install.

Penn Turnpike is written out instead on the Turnpike.  https://goo.gl/maps/Tq6nRoSf814Jsdgv9  I imagine this was done here just for brevity's sake.  It's not really a recognizable shield for the PA Turnpike.

[famartin]

I'm not sure if this is an NJDOT or NJTA install, but its possibly the only sign with both PATP and NJTP trailblazers. Now if only they'd put a sign like this on the mainline instead of just here on 130...

I believe that's a NJ Tpk install.

Penn Turnpike is written out instead on the Turnpike.  https://goo.gl/maps/Tq6nRoSf814Jsdgv9  I imagine this was done here just for brevity's sake.  It's not really a recognizable shield for the PA Turnpike.

I know that. I've taken several pictures of those. These are mine from last summer, though they weren't the first I took:





However, I'll make the argument that if you are not a frequent traveler of either road, neither trailblazer is "recognizable". That said, you can read the PATP trailblazer more easily (at least it says "Turnpike" at a font you might be able to read while driving). If you are not familiar with the area and don't get close enough to see the word "turnpike" (which is VERY small), you might think the NJ Turnpike trailblazer was some sort of advertisement for NJ Toilet Paper...

And, lets not forget, PA has been nice enough to post the NJ Turnpike blazer on its roads...



Considering the photo below shows how the road is signed just after crossing into PA, I think NJTA could easily (and should, for consistency) do similar signage at Exit 6.

[NJRoadfan]

NJ's road agencies seem very conservative in using a neighboring state's trailblazers. Witness the GSP and I-287 not having any NY Thurway shields posted.

[famartin]

NJ's road agencies seem very conservative in using a neighboring state's trailblazers. Witness the GSP and I-287 not having any NY Thurway shields posted.

Except for these, but I'm guessing these were NYSTA installs...




Interestingly, at least as of September when I took these two photos, they had not replaced them with "Governor Mario Cuomo Bridge" as they did with the final one...
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1150893,-74.1613275,3a,75y,12.68h,88.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK4xhAGZHFV8itAJt42-tlg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

[NJRoadfan]

Yes, those signs are from NYTA. Note the NY-17 shield.

[NoGoodNamesAvailable]

Yes, those signs are from NYTA. Note the NY-17 shield.

You can also tell they're from the Thruway authority because you can't read them for shit at night

[Alps]

NJ's road agencies seem very conservative in using a neighboring state's trailblazers. Witness the GSP and I-287 not having any NY Thurway shields posted.

Except for these, but I'm guessing these were NYSTA installs...




Interestingly, at least as of September when I took these two photos, they had not replaced them with "Governor Mario Cuomo Bridge" as they did with the final one...
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1150893,-74.1613275,3a,75y,12.68h,88.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK4xhAGZHFV8itAJt42-tlg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

Although they're NYSTA installs, they're on NJDOT property and that would be why they haven't been changed.

[SignBridge]

There is also an error on the sign for the bridge. Does anybody else see it?

[Roadsguy]

There is also an error on the sign for the bridge. Does anybody else see it?

I-287 South?

[plain]

Those I-87 & I-287 shields are looking mighty demountable there

[Alps]

There is also an error on the sign for the bridge. Does anybody else see it?

I-287 South?

Technically it just says "287", not centered under the "South". I think he's going for the lane stipples - this is no longer a split. Left two lanes go north, right lane adds a 4th lane and goes east.

[sturmde]

Oh?  I thought the error was that it says Tappan Zee Br, and not  Mario Cuomo Br

[Don'tKnowYet]

I'm not sure if this is an NJDOT or NJTA install, but its possibly the only sign with both PATP and NJTP trailblazers. Now if only they'd put a sign like this on the mainline instead of just here on 130...

I believe that's a NJ Tpk install.

Penn Turnpike is written out instead on the Turnpike.  https://goo.gl/maps/Tq6nRoSf814Jsdgv9  I imagine this was done here just for brevity's sake.  It's not really a recognizable shield for the PA Turnpike.

DOT...... U Channel posts

[storm2k]

I'm not sure if this is an NJDOT or NJTA install, but its possibly the only sign with both PATP and NJTP trailblazers. Now if only they'd put a sign like this on the mainline instead of just here on 130...

I believe that's a NJ Tpk install.

Penn Turnpike is written out instead on the Turnpike.  https://goo.gl/maps/Tq6nRoSf814Jsdgv9  I imagine this was done here just for brevity's sake.  It's not really a recognizable shield for the PA Turnpike.

DOT...... U Channel posts

The rounded corners suggest Turnpike Authority design standards, not NJDOT. NJDOT standards would have square corners with a rounded white border, a yellow toll banner, NJ Turnpike written out at the bottom, and I'm pretty sure omit the PA Turnpike shield completely.

[famartin]

This is almost certainly an NJDOT install, so not sure some of what is mentioned above applies...

[akotchi]

^^  These are NJDOT installations . . . they went in under the same contract as the signs changing I-95 to I-295 around Trenton.

[storm2k]

Interesting. NJDOT doesn't usually do roundrects.

[SignBridge]

The error on that Mario Cuomo Bridge sign above was that I-287 goes East from Suffern, not South as the sign says. Only I-87/T'way goes theoretically South. I-287 goes East all the way to Rye, NY where it ends at I-95. In fact years ago, route marker signs along the Thruway from Suffern to the I-87/287 split East of the TZ Bridge used to say 87-South/287-East. Don't remember if those markers are still posted along that stretch.

[famartin]

The error on that Mario Cuomo Bridge sign above was that I-287 goes East from Suffern, not South as the sign says. Only I-87/T'way goes theoretically South. I-287 goes East all the way to Rye, NY where it ends at I-95. In fact years ago, route marker signs along the Thruway from Suffern to the I-87/287 split East of the TZ Bridge used to say 87-South/287-East. Don't remember if those markers are still posted along that stretch.

I wasn't sure which sign you were referring to, but yeah I noticed that error with the "south". The old signs they haven't replaced in NJ are better, but they should have "East" above 287. Oh well. The sign at US 1 in Edison which directs traffic to
SOUTH
287 440
is on par, perhaps even worse.

[roadman65]

There is also an error on the sign for the bridge. Does anybody else see it?

The South is above the I-87/ Thruway shields.  The I-287 is direction less it seems as probably there to confuse the motorists less if they saw that then suddenly reading "East."

[vdeane]

Oddly enough, the old sign in NY had the same error, even though the reassurance shields are correct (although the Thruway reassurance shield isn't usually posted for some reason).

[SignBridge]

NJ's road agencies seem very conservative in using a neighboring state's trailblazers. Witness the GSP and I-287 not having any NY Thurway shields posted.

Except for these, but I'm guessing these were NYSTA installs...




Interestingly, at least as of September when I took these two photos, they had not replaced them with "Governor Mario Cuomo Bridge" as they did with the final one...
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1150893,-74.1613275,3a,75y,12.68h,88.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK4xhAGZHFV8itAJt42-tlg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

I think we're talking about two different photos.  I'm looking at the photo in the above link.  The NEW sign that says Mario Cuomo Bridge, not Tappan Zee Bridge. It says from left-to-right across the top line: 87/T'way/287/SOUTH.