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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #550 on: January 04, 2019, 05:18:12 PM »

Will someone drive through the tunnel when it opens, and report back on whether they consider the driving experience better/worse than the existing viaduct? It would be much appreciated.
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #551 on: January 04, 2019, 06:12:01 PM »

Will someone drive through the tunnel when it opens, and report back on whether they consider the driving experience better/worse than the existing viaduct? It would be much appreciated.

I guarantee you that will happen almost immediately.

If I had to guess, the tunnel will be a far more enjoyable experience, though less visually stimulating.
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #552 on: January 04, 2019, 08:33:53 PM »

Will someone drive through the tunnel when it opens, and report back on whether they consider the driving experience better/worse than the existing viaduct? It would be much appreciated.

I guarantee you that will happen almost immediately.

Yep, I plan on driving thru the new tunnel and filming the drive shortly after it opens.

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #553 on: January 04, 2019, 08:57:14 PM »

Will someone drive through the tunnel when it opens, and report back on whether they consider the driving experience better/worse than the existing viaduct? It would be much appreciated.

It's not hard to think of what the new tunnel will be like and how it will affect things:

It'll be a safer drive, given that there's a shoulder and you're not stranded on top of a collapse-ready freeway that could pancake and crush the lower decks. It won't relive downtown congestion, not by a long shot, and there will still be jams near the portals due to merges with downtown traffic; the Republican ramp is going to be a decent mess and help contribute to the Mercer Mess.

You'll lose the iconic skyline and waterfront view, but the waterfront area should be a lot quieter (at least once demolition is completed and the work on Colman Dock winds down). It will be a much more pleasant place to visit and probably crawling with tourists spilling over from Pike Place.

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #554 on: January 05, 2019, 02:28:38 PM »

I was listening to a King 5 story this morning, and they pronounced Brougham as "bro-um"; two syllables. Are you guys above saying it should be one syllable? For example, "braum" ("braun" with an "m")?

I also listened to those Youtube videos a bit more closely. The narrator seems to say it correctly? qguy noticed this too.
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #555 on: January 05, 2019, 11:35:54 PM »

I was listening to a King 5 story this morning, and they pronounced Brougham as "bro-um"; two syllables. Are you guys above saying it should be one syllable? For example, "braum" ("braun" with an "m")?

I also listened to those Youtube videos a bit more closely. The narrator seems to say it correctly? qguy noticed this too.

I pronounce it as "Braum". That's a closer approximation to what I've always heard.

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #556 on: January 06, 2019, 12:52:19 AM »

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #557 on: January 06, 2019, 09:21:48 PM »

I was listening to a King 5 story this morning, and they pronounced Brougham as "bro-um"; two syllables. Are you guys above saying it should be one syllable? For example, "braum" ("braun" with an "m")?

I also listened to those Youtube videos a bit more closely. The narrator seems to say it correctly? qguy noticed this too.
I pronounce it as "Braum". That's a closer approximation to what I've always heard.

As far as I'm concerned, it's "supposed to be" pronounced however the locals choose to pronounce it.

Even in VER-sales.   :biggrin:
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #558 on: January 07, 2019, 12:06:19 PM »

I was listening to a King 5 story this morning, and they pronounced Brougham as "bro-um"; two syllables. Are you guys above saying it should be one syllable? For example, "braum" ("braun" with an "m")?

I also listened to those Youtube videos a bit more closely. The narrator seems to say it correctly? qguy noticed this too.
I pronounce it as "Braum". That's a closer approximation to what I've always heard.

As far as I'm concerned, it's "supposed to be" pronounced however the locals choose to pronounce it.

Even in VER-sales.   :biggrin:

in indiana we have a town called Russiaville. it's pronounced ROOsiaville
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #559 on: January 07, 2019, 02:55:29 PM »

As far as I'm concerned, it's "supposed to be" pronounced however the locals choose to pronounce it.

It would be great if I could find even one snippet of Royal Brougham actually saying his own name, but I've not found such a thing. Until such a thing is found, no one will be sure.

The Merriam Webster pronunciation suggests two syllables, but there's still a ton of people suggesting it's one syllable on other websites.
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #560 on: January 09, 2019, 02:16:59 PM »

Braum
Mmm, ice cream... :sombrero:

+1. Could use some chocolate chip cookie dough in chocolate ice cream right now. Theirs is tasty!
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #561 on: January 11, 2019, 10:54:57 PM »

Last day of this view for me...

(Sadly, my camera doesn't take good night time pictures at all.)

Goodbye, Viaduct! Honestly, I won't really miss it... the next few weeks aren't going to be fun, however.
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #562 on: January 11, 2019, 11:37:03 PM »

Of all the time for my camera to die entirely...it was before the biggest traffic event in our region's history.

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #563 on: January 12, 2019, 12:41:18 AM »

Of all the time for my camera to die entirely...it was before the biggest traffic event in our region's history.

You figure anything out? That sucks.
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #564 on: January 12, 2019, 01:06:04 AM »

The viaduct is now officially closed, but there's still plenty of motorists still streaming on.

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« Reply #565 on: January 12, 2019, 01:06:59 AM »

Of all the time for my camera to die entirely...it was before the biggest traffic event in our region's history.

You figure anything out? That sucks.

I'm planning to buy a new camera set (T6, which is on sale at the moment), but given the sales tax situation I may just bus down to Portland to get it. Hopefully the traffic apocalypse stays bad long enough.

I'm planning to fall back on my old point and shoot for a little while.

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #566 on: January 12, 2019, 01:26:34 AM »

Of all the time for my camera to die entirely...it was before the biggest traffic event in our region's history.

You figure anything out? That sucks.

I'm planning to buy a new camera set (T6, which is on sale at the moment), but given the sales tax situation I may just bus down to Portland to get it. Hopefully the traffic apocalypse stays bad long enough.

I'm planning to fall back on my old point and shoot for a little while.

I'm saving up for a camera myself, but trying to find one that does 4K video. If I didn't have that requirement, I could have found a camera a long time ago. Nothing like a drive to PDX for some tax savings!



Total block party out on the viaduct...no way this thing will be empty anytime soon!

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #567 on: January 12, 2019, 02:57:47 AM »

The very last car on the viaduct was allegedly a beat-up Subaru, which rolled off at 11:40 p.m.


The viaduct is officially closed to all public car traffic. Any it didn't even spill over into Saturday!

EDIT: The county sheriff posted some helicopter footage. Really gives you a good idea of the chaos.

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #568 on: January 12, 2019, 11:03:04 AM »

I'm saving up for a camera myself, but trying to find one that does 4K video. If I didn't have that requirement, I could have found a camera a long time ago. Nothing like a drive to PDX for some tax savings!

I recently got the Canon EOS R.  I think it does 4k video, though cropped on the sensor (I rarely play with video, so I haven't even gotten around to seeing what all this new camera can do with that).  For still photography it's freaking amazing.  Now to pay it off over the coming year...
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #569 on: January 12, 2019, 06:21:44 PM »

Sad to see the viaduct go, but also excited for the next few weeks with this new toy we'll have.

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« Reply #570 on: January 12, 2019, 07:54:18 PM »

Demolition of the south end ramps has begun.


But there's still idiots trying to trespass for selfies.

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #571 on: January 15, 2019, 01:32:27 AM »

Day One without the Viaduct wasn't too bad, thanks to people making alternate plans. Traffic even seemed to be a bit lighter.

It is a shame that the West Seattle bus routes skip potential stops in SODO, but I understand the desire not to overcrowd Link with transfers. Maybe once they're on the permanent 1st Avenue alignment, they'll get the stop near Jackson Street.

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« Reply #572 on: January 15, 2019, 01:37:32 AM »

That’s so sad they’re going to fill in the battery st tunnel. That concept to build a trail with some stores along it would have been so cool and unique.
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« Reply #573 on: January 15, 2019, 02:04:04 AM »

Sadly the tunnel would require somewhere around $200 million in seismic repairs, let alone other modifications. It would be cheaper to recreate the concept as a surface street (including the daylit creek, which could work with careful planning).

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #574 on: January 15, 2019, 02:58:02 AM »

Yeah that 200 million would probably be better spent on other pressing needs for Seattle. But wouldn’t that be cool! East coast has the high line and the west coast has the low line. For some reason you think it’d be opposite. ;)

Good stuff happening up there anyways! Can’t wait to check it out in person.
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