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Started by Voyager, January 24, 2009, 08:58:39 PM

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Quote from: PAHighways on November 07, 2010, 12:01:37 AM
Stubs on both sides of the southern approach to the Birmingham Bridge in Pittsburgh for the cancelled Oakland Crosstown Freeway.
Ugh, can't believe I was there and had no idea.  There was construction blocking off that side of the road - I hope they didn't remove the stub!


Bickendan

Hard to tell from the satellite image, but there are a couple unbuilt ramps at the OR99E/224 interchange in Milwaukie: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.448864,-122.641346&spn=0.002326,0.005643&t=k&z=18

PAHighways

Stub ramp on PA 380/Bigelow Boulevard in Pittsburgh, which was to have been a ramp from I-579 southbound to PA 380 eastbound.

SidS1045

The stubs that would have connected the elevated portion of I-93 in Charlestown (Boston) to the now-dead Inner Belt (I-695) are still there, closed off with Jersey barriers.
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LeftyJR

Quote from: PAHighways on November 07, 2010, 12:01:37 AM
Stubs on both sides of the southern approach to the Birmingham Bridge in Pittsburgh for the cancelled Oakland Crosstown Freeway.

Just think how much better the traffic flow of Pittsburgh would be if the Oakland Crosstown Freeway were built.  If you ask me, it is the missing link of Pittsburgh's system...more than the Southern Beltway.

Stephane Dumas

the intechange of US-10 and MI-47 seems to be a incomplete cloverleaf, did they have bigger plans for MI-47?
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.597844,-84.139373&spn=0.010676,0.027466&t=k&z=16

NE2

Standard incomplete cloverleaf - whatever. This is where it's at in Michigan: http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=42.077712,-84.013674&spn=0.013347,0.041199&z=16
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jdb1234

On I-65 near the 47th Avenue overpass in Birmingham, if you look to the west, you will see the current stub end of Corridor X just west of I-65.

thenetwork

Originally, US-250 (and possibly SR-13 -- that might have remained the N-S route through town) was to completely bypass downtown Norwalk, OH along the current stretch of US-20/SR-18 to the north & east of town.  However, the bypass was never completed and the "scars" remain:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=norwalk,+oh&sll=41.459999,-81.695023&sspn=0.018075,0.043774&g=richfield,+oh&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Norwalk,+Huron,+Ohio&ll=41.249467,-82.5735&spn=0.009067,0.021887&t=k&z=16

triplemultiplex

Not sure if this was mentioned upthread, but WisDOT appears to have r/w set aside for a 4 lane expansion of WI 11 between Monroe and Brodhead.  This spot is just east of Juda:
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=42.59047,-89.44867&z=15&t=S&marker0=42.60112%2C-89.63845%2Cmonroe\%2C%20wi
This stretch of extra r/w immediately north of WI 11 extends from Juda to the eastern WI 11/81 junction.  The first mile east of the current end of the WI 11 4 lane also has this extra r/w, but to the south of the existing alignment.
Seems likely that this r/w will sit idle for the foreseeable future.
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tchafe1978

Driving that stretch, it's pretty obvious that extra ROW has been set aside. But there is absolutely no need for more four-laning in the stretch, traffic is pretty light. The concrete on the Monroe bypass sure cold use a repaving, though!

RustyK

Speaking of Monroe (Washington, anyway :)), this section of WA-522 between the Snohomish River Bridge and the interchange at Fales road has what looks like almost complete grading and such on the eastbound side of the highway:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=monroe,+wa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.176833,98.085938&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Monroe,+Snohomish,+Washington&ll=47.830876,-122.052355&spn=0,0.023947&z=16&layer=c&cbll=47.830863,-122.052483&panoid=qfdvT126huBMEUgnOHBeeA&cbp=12,242,,0,19.92

Right now, there is money allocated to upgrade 522 from the 2-lane mess it currently is to 4 between the Snohomish River bridge (including new bridge) and US-2 in Monroe.  This section, where it looks like a chunk of the work is already completed, has no funding and therefore won't see upgrades any time soon.  As someone that regularly sits in traffic on 522 as part of my workday commute, it's maddening. 

myosh_tino

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Quote from: RustyK on December 12, 2010, 01:01:20 PM
Speaking of Monroe (Washington, anyway :)), this section of WA-522 between the Snohomish River Bridge and the interchange at Fales road has what looks like almost complete grading and such on the eastbound side of the highway:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=monroe,+wa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.176833,98.085938&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Monroe,+Snohomish,+Washington&ll=47.830876,-122.052355&spn=0,0.023947&z=16&layer=c&cbll=47.830863,-122.052483&panoid=qfdvT126huBMEUgnOHBeeA&cbp=12,242,,0,19.92

Right now, there is money allocated to upgrade 522 from the 2-lane mess it currently is to 4 between the Snohomish River bridge (including new bridge) and US-2 in Monroe.  This section, where it looks like a chunk of the work is already completed, has no funding and therefore won't see upgrades any time soon.  As someone that regularly sits in traffic on 522 as part of my workday commute, it's maddening.
On a related note, I started to pan west when I saw this interesting view from Google Maps...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=monroe,+wa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.176833,98.085938&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Monroe,+Snohomish,+Washington&ll=47.814437,-122.093468&spn=0.006628,0.013797&t=k&z=16

This is located in between the current end of the WA-522 freeway and the Echo Lakes Road interchange.  It looks like there was a planned half-stack interchange here for a future north-south freeway.  Look at the way Downes Road and the rail line curve up from WA-522.  Maybe this is just a coincidence.

I also panned north to Monroe, WA and I noticed there is a strip of undeveloped land north of town.  Is that for a proposed US-2 bypass of Monroe?  It also looks like WA-522 would have extended north to the bypass.  I did a quick mock-up of where the bypass would be located...

Does anyone know if this bypass has been killed or are there still plans to build it.
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froggie

The regional plan approved in 1974 had a WA 9 freeway/expressway that would have been on new alignment at its southern end, possibly tying into WA 522 at that location.

Stephane Dumas

There some ROW for a unbuilt diamond interchange on US-127 (formely US-27) in Michigan
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.435844,-84.677081&spn=0.010642,0.027466&t=k&z=16

RustyK

Quote from: myosh_tino on December 12, 2010, 03:48:23 PM
On a related note, I started to pan west when I saw this interesting view from Google Maps...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=monroe,+wa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.176833,98.085938&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Monroe,+Snohomish,+Washington&ll=47.814437,-122.093468&spn=0.006628,0.013797&t=k&z=16

This is located in between the current end of the WA-522 freeway and the Echo Lakes Road interchange.  It looks like there was a planned half-stack interchange here for a future north-south freeway.  Look at the way Downes Road and the rail line curve up from WA-522.  Maybe this is just a coincidence.

I also panned north to Monroe, WA and I noticed there is a strip of undeveloped land north of town.  Is that for a proposed US-2 bypass of Monroe?  It also looks like WA-522 would have extended north to the bypass.  I did a quick mock-up of where the bypass would be located...

Does anyone know if this bypass has been killed or are there still plans to build it.

I think it's just a coincidence.  I don't know of anything that was planned through there, even the hypothetical I-605 would be further east.  As far as the Monroe bypass goes, yes - you're pretty much spot on with your rendering there.  See: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Projects/US2/RDP/monroebypass.htm (click on the pic to show a better map).  The north end of 522 has a small strip of pavement that extends beyond the current ramp, blocked by jersey barriers. 


mgk920

Quote from: RustyK on December 13, 2010, 05:21:52 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on December 12, 2010, 03:48:23 PM
On a related note, I started to pan west when I saw this interesting view from Google Maps...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=monroe,+wa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.176833,98.085938&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Monroe,+Snohomish,+Washington&ll=47.814437,-122.093468&spn=0.006628,0.013797&t=k&z=16

This is located in between the current end of the WA-522 freeway and the Echo Lakes Road interchange.  It looks like there was a planned half-stack interchange here for a future north-south freeway.  Look at the way Downes Road and the rail line curve up from WA-522.  Maybe this is just a coincidence.

I also panned north to Monroe, WA and I noticed there is a strip of undeveloped land north of town.  Is that for a proposed US-2 bypass of Monroe?  It also looks like WA-522 would have extended north to the bypass.  I did a quick mock-up of where the bypass would be located...

Does anyone know if this bypass has been killed or are there still plans to build it.

I think it's just a coincidence.  I don't know of anything that was planned through there, even the hypothetical I-605 would be further east.  As far as the Monroe bypass goes, yes - you're pretty much spot on with your rendering there.  See: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Projects/US2/RDP/monroebypass.htm (click on the pic to show a better map).  The north end of 522 has a small strip of pavement that extends beyond the current ramp, blocked by jersey barriers.

Interesting in that if you go to the closer-in aerial images of that area on Google Maps and then switch to 'map', it will show ROW property lines for such a highway bypass and connection, the only difference being that it connects back to existing US 2 farther to the northwest.

Mike

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Quote from: mgk920 on December 13, 2010, 06:37:03 PMInteresting in that if you go to the closer-in aerial images of that area on Google Maps and then switch to 'map', it will show ROW property lines for such a highway bypass and connection, the only difference being that it connects back to existing US 2 farther to the northwest.
That's about as undeniable as it gets. Even better, http://gis.snoco.org/maps/property/viewer.htm labels it as proposed SR 2.
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Quote from: jdb1234 on December 10, 2010, 10:17:38 PM
On I-65 near the 47th Avenue overpass in Birmingham, if you look to the west, you will see the current stub end of Corridor X just west of I-65.

I did not think it would show up on google maps but here it is:

http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=&ie=UTF8&ll=33.574502,-86.817999&spn=0.008492,0.012167&t=h&z=16

mightyace

^^^

And, if you go to the west to the open section, Google has already labeled the highway as I-22!  :confused:
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jdb1234

Quote from: mightyace on December 14, 2010, 11:55:07 PM
^^^

And, if you go to the west to the open section, Google has already labeled the highway as I-22!  :confused:

There are signs that refer to the freeway as I-22 only.  Like this:


D-Dey65

#172
Here's another stub from Setauket, New York, although this time it's not from an unbuilt road:


This is an old right-turn ramp from North Country Road to Ridgeway Avenue, back when both roads were part of New York State Route 25A. None of these roads have been part of Route 25A since about 1958.

Alex

I never noticed this unused partial "Y" interchange on New York 104 at Rochester before.

vdeane

Your link doesn't work.  Just get a blank grey rectangle with the bing interface on top of it.  I assume you're talking about the stub ramps to/from NY 590 north and NY 104 east?

EDIT: now it's finally started working.  Took a long time.
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