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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1000 on: January 15, 2019, 01:31:50 PM »

Kansas has shifted from an embossed plate to a decal plate (the design has not changed, however).

Decal?  They are screen-printed.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1001 on: January 18, 2019, 09:06:37 AM »

Michigan has fully approved the use of digital plates. The creator of Rplate will work with the Secretary of State on the rollout.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1002 on: January 18, 2019, 10:25:46 AM »

Michigan has fully approved the use of digital plates. The creator of Rplate will work with the Secretary of State on the rollout.

And then the car gets fender-bendered, requiring an expensive replacement.

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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1003 on: January 18, 2019, 01:58:57 PM »

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Sadly, digital license plates still look like license plates, which means Michiganders aren’t liberated from the ugly rectangular blemishes on their vehicles.

I disagree with the author on that one.  I've always thought a car with no (rear) license plate looks exceedingly strange.  Maybe if there weren't even a spot for one, it would look better.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1004 on: January 28, 2019, 12:04:54 PM »

Kansas has shifted from an embossed plate to a decal plate (the design has not changed, however).

Decal?  They are screen-printed.

Either way, they suck. Not only do they look like something you could make yourself, but they're illegible when hit by glare at a certain angle.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1005 on: January 28, 2019, 01:24:33 PM »

A friend of mine sent me photos of the new Wichita flag plates. The numbers are black on the red background now instead of white, which he said had to be changed because of the screen printing. I don't why they couldn't screen print white numbers.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1006 on: January 29, 2019, 10:03:33 AM »

Kansas has shifted from an embossed plate to a decal plate (the design has not changed, however).

Decal?  They are screen-printed.

Here's the new screen-printed version of the Kansas plate:


For comparison, here's the embossed version:


The numbers are similar in both versions (except for the horizontal stroke added to the "1"), whereas the lettering on the new plates looks like the 1920s sign typeface instead of the 2010s

I've always thought a car with no (rear) license plate looks exceedingly strange.

You haven't seen F-350 in Missouri, have you?

A friend of mine sent me photos of the new Wichita flag plates. The numbers are black on the red background now instead of white, which he said had to be changed because of the screen printing. I don't why they couldn't screen print white numbers.

I suspect that the printing process is more akin to that found in a laser printer, meaning no "white" ink is available.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1007 on: January 29, 2019, 12:20:41 PM »

Sure, you show the straight on view of the new vs. old plates (the old plate is more visually appealing, btw).  But try looking at these from certain angles - especially at night - and you'll see that the embossed plates vastly outperform the flat ones.  Which also look incredibly cheap, become useless when dirty and which do not hold up as well. 
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1008 on: January 29, 2019, 02:02:10 PM »

Sure, you show the straight on view of the new vs. old plates (the old plate is more visually appealing, btw).  But try looking at these from certain angles - especially at night - and you'll see that the embossed plates vastly outperform the flat ones.  Which also look incredibly cheap, become useless when dirty and which do not hold up as well. 

I don't like flat plates as much as embossed ones either, but I hadn't heard before that they don't hold up as well.  Where have you read that?
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1009 on: January 29, 2019, 02:34:44 PM »

Sure, you show the straight on view of the new vs. old plates (the old plate is more visually appealing, btw).  But try looking at these from certain angles - especially at night - and you'll see that the embossed plates vastly outperform the flat ones.  Which also look incredibly cheap, become useless when dirty and which do not hold up as well. 

I don't like flat plates as much as embossed ones either, but I hadn't heard before that they don't hold up as well.  Where have you read that?

Embossing the sheet metal actually adds tensile strength to it.  Furthermore, a flat piece of metal with print on it is easier to deface or damage than an embossed one.  Given the wear and tear that many plates endure over the years, the embossed ones would remain legible for a longer period. 

And this is without getting into the overall suckiness of that ghastly 3M font (seemingly always with ugly black letters/numbers).  Too bad for Kansas, now their one plate is a cheap POS. 
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1010 on: January 29, 2019, 02:39:15 PM »

that ghastle 3M font (seemingly always with ugly black letters/numbers).

3M offers multiple fonts and even accommodates custom fonts.  When license plates end up with that ghastly font, it's their own fault for not specifying something else.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1011 on: January 29, 2019, 03:13:39 PM »

WV is getting a new state owned plate series:
Looks a little bit like older NJ plates.
Except for the lack of a blue border, my thoughts immediately turned to the late ’70s/early ’80s PA plates that were still lingering around in my early childhood.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1012 on: February 28, 2019, 10:48:06 PM »

Remember when a license plate was just to hold the number for your car, not carry tourism advertising for your state or an artistic scene?

I do. On a related note, I think we should do away with all special-interest license plates.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1013 on: March 02, 2019, 03:42:04 PM »

Remember when a license plate was just to hold the number for your car, not carry tourism advertising for your state or an artistic scene?

I do. On a related note, I think we should do away with all special-interest license plates.

Yes! Let's go back to the good ol' days with the state, plate number, county (number, abbreviation, or spelled out) and the date the plate was adopted. Also, two colors ONLY and put the tags on straight.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1014 on: March 04, 2019, 01:25:33 PM »

Remember when a license plate was just to hold the number for your car, not carry tourism advertising for your state or an artistic scene?

I do. On a related note, I think we should do away with all special-interest license plates.

Yes! Let's go back to the good ol' days with the state, plate number, county (number, abbreviation, or spelled out) and the date the plate was adopted. Also, two colors ONLY and put the tags on straight.

How much of a stickler are you going to be, and how far back are you wanting to go?  Kansas license plates have featured either the state outline or a graphic element for the last 50 years.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1015 on: March 04, 2019, 01:42:01 PM »

Remember when a license plate was just to hold the number for your car, not carry tourism advertising for your state or an artistic scene?

I do. On a related note, I think we should do away with all special-interest license plates.

Yes! Let's go back to the good ol' days with the state, plate number, county (number, abbreviation, or spelled out) and the date the plate was adopted. Also, two colors ONLY and put the tags on straight.

Coming from a state who, to the best of my knowledge, has never included the county on its plates, what purpose does including the county name on the plate serve? Realistically, I could see plates be stripped down to state, plate number, and expiration.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1016 on: March 04, 2019, 02:02:09 PM »

Remember when a license plate was just to hold the number for your car, not carry tourism advertising for your state or an artistic scene?

I do. On a related note, I think we should do away with all special-interest license plates.

Yes! Let's go back to the good ol' days with the state, plate number, county (number, abbreviation, or spelled out) and the date the plate was adopted. Also, two colors ONLY and put the tags on straight.

Coming from a state who, to the best of my knowledge, has never included the county on its plates, what purpose does including the county name on the plate serve? Realistically, I could see plates be stripped down to state, plate number, and expiration.

Heck, all NJ has is:
'New Jersey'
tag number
'Garden State'

Our plates don't expire; the registration for the car does, but there's nothing on the car detailing that. 
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1017 on: March 04, 2019, 07:45:16 PM »

'New Jersey'
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'Garden State'

Our plates don't expire; the registration for the car does, but there's nothing on the car detailing that. 
The windshield sticker aka inspection sticker may be the same as registration month, but not necessarily.  I bought my current car in Aug 2014 and transferred my plates from my previous car to it.  It just so happened that my registration month was the same as month that I purchased the car.  It was merely coincidental, I didn't try to get it to fall into place.  My old car's inspection month was June,  so the registration on it didn't coincide with the inspection.  If one gets new plates with the new car (which many seem to opt for) then the registration month will indeed be the same as the inspection month.

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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1018 on: March 04, 2019, 09:09:54 PM »

Heck, all NJ has is:
'New Jersey'
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'Garden State'

Our plates don't expire; the registration for the car does, but there's nothing on the car detailing that. 

If I have my fact straight, this is also true of Pennsylvania:  no county name, no registration sticker, no windshield sticker.  And they are the only two states that have completed ditched stickers.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1019 on: March 04, 2019, 09:14:40 PM »



How much of a stickler are you going to be, and how far back are you wanting to go?  Kansas license plates have featured either the state outline or a graphic element for the last 50 years.
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I had forgotten about the Kansas outline plates. Those would be acceptable.
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« Reply #1020 on: March 05, 2019, 06:55:00 AM »

If I have my fact straight, this is also true of Pennsylvania:  no county name, no registration sticker, no windshield sticker.  And they are the only two states that have completed ditched stickers.
Pennsylvania uses windshield stickers to validate the inspection (safety checked statewide and some counties check emissions as well--they use a second sticker to validate it).  But you are correct that they've done away with plate stickers.  And to my knowledge, they've never put the county on their plates or on a sticker that goes on the plate.

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« Reply #1021 on: March 05, 2019, 06:57:18 AM »

Coming from a state who, to the best of my knowledge, has never included the county on its plates, what purpose does including the county name on the plate serve? Realistically, I could see plates be stripped down to state, plate number, and expiration.
Some states collect a tax on vehicles and it may vary by county.  Others handle vehicle registrations on a county level, so they too include the county or in some cases, just a numeric code.

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« Reply #1022 on: March 05, 2019, 11:36:31 AM »

If I have my fact straight, this is also true of Pennsylvania:  no county name, no registration sticker, no windshield sticker.  And they are the only two states that have completed ditched stickers.
Pennsylvania uses windshield stickers to validate the inspection (safety checked statewide and some counties check emissions as well--they use a second sticker to validate it).  But you are correct that they've done away with plate stickers.  And to my knowledge, they've never put the county on their plates or on a sticker that goes on the plate.
Correct, the plate stickers were discontinued a year ago.  Side bar: it's also worth noting that PA only requires one plate mounted on the rear of a vehicle; same goes for DE.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1023 on: March 05, 2019, 02:05:46 PM »


If I have my fact straight, this is also true of Pennsylvania:  no county name, no registration sticker, no windshield sticker.  And they are the only two states that have completed ditched stickers.

Pennsylvania uses windshield stickers to validate the inspection (safety checked statewide and some counties check emissions as well--they use a second sticker to validate it).  But you are correct that they've done away with plate stickers.  And to my knowledge, they've never put the county on their plates or on a sticker that goes on the plate.

So I guess the inspection sticker acts as a stand-in for the registration sticker.  Makes sense.  I'm assuming you can't renew your registration without having your car inspected (?) .
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1024 on: March 05, 2019, 02:43:01 PM »

So I guess the inspection sticker acts as a stand-in for the registration sticker.  Makes sense.  I'm assuming you can't renew your registration without having your car inspected (?) .
No. The inspection stickers in the windshield were in use when PA was still issuing plate stickers.  They just stopped issuing plate stickers.  As far as whether one renews the registration or has it inspected first, I'm not sure.

 


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