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Completely redundant routes
« on: May 09, 2019, 07:57:30 AM »

Completely overlapped, excluding Interstates over lower-ranked routes.

The two that I can think of are I-894 and the southern portion of ME 4A.
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2019, 08:18:26 AM »

I saw the title and I was about to say I-894, but you already said it.

Now for other examples I can think:
All the secret numbers hidden along US routes in some states
I-80 across Indiana (just a ramp when not overlapping another Interstate)

And a couple historical examples:
Either US 6 or US 50 across Utah, before the latter was moved to the San Rafael swell after I-70 was built
Either US 60 or US 70 West of Globe AZ
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2019, 08:28:37 AM »

US-220 over I-99.

Revert US-220 back to its original roadways.
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2019, 08:32:12 AM »

May as well get the inevitable Georgia state routes under US routes out of the way:

GA 1 (US 27)
GA 3 (US 19, US 41)
GA 7 (US 41, US 341)
GA 8 (US 78, US 29)
GA 12 (US 278)
GA 35 (US 319)
GA 38 (US 84)
GA 58 (US 11)
GA 365 (US 23, US 123)

Probably a few more that I missed.
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2019, 09:27:39 AM »

Alabama:
• AL 210 around Dothan is always part of a few US Routes

Interstates:
• I-565 is US 72 Alternate throughout all 20 miles
• I-359 is entirely overlapped by US 11 / AL 69 
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2019, 09:29:09 AM »

US 192. Suck it, haters of state numbers for state highways.
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2019, 11:19:19 AM »

I saw the title and I was about to say I-894, but you already said it.

Now for other examples I can think:
All the secret numbers hidden along US routes in some states
I-80 across Indiana (just a ramp when not overlapping another Interstate)

And a couple historical examples:
Either US 6 or US 50 across Utah, before the latter was moved to the San Rafael swell after I-70 was built
Either US 60 or US 70 West of Globe AZ
What a waste of money four laning I-70 across the swell.
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2019, 01:04:20 PM »

MSR 110 (the CKC corridor)
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2019, 01:51:16 PM »

MSR 110 (the CKC corridor)

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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2019, 01:52:26 PM »

Amen and amen!

A very fitting touch of redundancy.  :-P
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2019, 01:56:48 PM »


Probably a few more that I missed.
The secret state routes coinciding with all Georgia Interstate highways.
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2019, 01:58:34 PM »

US 192. Suck it, haters of state numbers for state highways.

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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2019, 02:29:18 PM »

Completely overlapped, excluding Interstates over lower-ranked routes.

The two that I can think of are I-894 and the southern portion of ME 4A.
I don't get why everyone thinks that one is redundant and not I-41 south of the zoo interchange. There is no need for I-41 south of the zoo it's a stupid duplex down to the state line that is never ever going to be extended south. It amazes me who came up with that idea in the first place.
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2019, 04:00:51 PM »

I-105 overlapping OR 126

I-182 overlapping US 12

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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2019, 04:08:51 PM »

I-105 overlapping OR 126

I-182 overlapping US 12

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I excluded Interstates overlapping lower-ranked routes because often it is useful to do this, giving an Interstate designation to a road that wouldn't otherwise have it. (Also, I-25 isn't redundant by any stretch of the imagination.) On the other hand, Georgia's not-so-secret state routes and the two I mentioned in the OP could just be deleted. AL 210 is an interesting example; it is still useful despite being redundant.
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2019, 04:28:25 PM »

In Missouri, I-64. US 40 is just fine, to the point the freeway is still commonly known as Highway 40

I saw the “rule” excluding Interstates over lower designations, but for 64/40 in STL, its an exception to prove the rule
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2019, 04:42:02 PM »

I saw the title and I was about to say I-894, but you already said it.

Now for other examples I can think:
All the secret numbers hidden along US routes in some states
I-80 across Indiana (just a ramp when not overlapping another Interstate)


I was going to say I-90 in Indiana, as it really should be in Michigan.


I-94 from I-90 at Tomah to Madison.  It would be much more logical to run it to Green Bay, and let I-90 take over its route in Michigan.  Then use another number from Cleveland to Buffalo.


I-39 from Portage to Rockford.


US 30 from Pocatello to Portland.





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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2019, 04:45:43 PM »

KY 841. Also, US 25 north of the US 42/127 intersection.

Haven't we discussed needless concurrencies before?
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2019, 04:49:57 PM »

I think this is a subset of those:  routes that are completely redundant, not just a portion.
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2019, 05:16:26 PM »

I-39 from Portage to Rockford.
I know US-51 was designated first, but I-39 is an Interstate, and the OP excludes lower routes over Interstates.
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2019, 05:28:02 PM »

US 30 from Pocatello to Portland.

Except for the 93-mile stretch from Bliss to Heyburn, plus other independent segments near Ontario, Baker City, Pendleton...
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2019, 05:40:04 PM »

US 192. Suck it, haters of state numbers for state highways.
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Where is FL-192?
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2019, 05:41:14 PM »

US 62 Truck overlaps US 127 Bypass and KY 44 for it’s entirety in Lawrenceburg, KY.

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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2019, 07:35:59 PM »

I-105 overlapping OR 126

I-182 overlapping US 12

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I excluded Interstates overlapping lower-ranked routes because often it is useful to do this, giving an Interstate designation to a road that wouldn't otherwise have it. (Also, I-25 isn't redundant by any stretch of the imagination.) On the other hand, Georgia's not-so-secret state routes and the two I mentioned in the OP could just be deleted. AL 210 is an interesting example; it is still useful despite being redundant.


I think that spurs like this being overlaid by routes entirely can still be considered useful for a few more reasons. An Interstate spur implies a direct route to an area. It's also more simple in terms of navigation. "Follow 182 into Pasco to SR 397" is more simple than "Get off 82 to 12 then follow 12 to SR 397." I'm sure you could come up with more, this is just an incredibly basic one I thought of.
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Re: Completely redundant routes
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2019, 07:39:20 PM »

FL 24A in Gainesville which is completely overlapped by two other routes.
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