Minor things that bother you

[CtrlAltDel]

That place wouldn't even have to ask me to do this - I'd drive right by it. Smokers pay a LOT in taxes, fees, and whatever else they call them. I'll spend my money where I'm welcomed, or at least, not automatically turned away.

It seems like the sign works, then. You won't have to deal with them, and they won't have to deal with you. It's win-win.

[kkt]

That said, smoking didn't bother me much when I was running a BK drive thru (I could just close the drive thru window so it wouldn't get in the restaurant).

I have a funny feeling that there was an incident involving something more pungent than the tobacco in regular cigarettes. And, I don't want to know more.

Let's just say that the staff of our BK probably wouldn't have had the same issue with that that yours did....

No BK would have a problem with that. [that stuff] fuels the fast-food industry. I couldn't have handled my job at McD's were it not so. Fast food work is depressing, degrading, dehumanizing work, unless you're the manager doing the degrading and dehumanizing. It was the only way I could deal.

I think it's a fairly degrading job, even for the manager.  Sure they get paid a few more pennies for their time, but they seem to be pretty eager to get out of there even if it's just to work at a sitdown restaurant.

[Billy F 1988]

It bothers me when I pull up to the drive-up window and see this sign.

Attention:

PLEASE SHOW SOME COMMON COURTESY AND SMOKE AND AIR OUT BEFORE PULLING UP TO ORDER.

IF YOU ARE SMOKING IN THE DRIVE THRU YOU WILL NOT BE SERVED.

THANK YOU MANAGEMENT

I'm not a smoker, and I fully understand the sentiment of management. Some of the stuff being smoked.... wow, just wow! It's just sad that we have to post signs like this to remind certain groups of their manners.

I recall a recent uptick in customers with large backpacks or carrier bags while working at Missoula Fresh Market (now known as Yoke's Fresh Market). It annoyed a few employees having to somewhat politely remind them to take them to the customer service counter and leave them there until they're done shopping. It got to a point where I made two signs about the backpacks and stuck them at both the deli and floral entrances before management took my signs and made official ones with a little more clarity.  We even had the entryways rearranged at one point due to an uptick of thieves from the Poverello Center coming to snag, and don't ask how I know the brand beer, Ritas! Yes. Ritas! Mang-o-Rita, Melon-Rita, yeah. That. They're the most common alcoholic drink to be stolen. For what rhyme or reason, I have no clue, but a handful seemed to have come along and snag those buggers. Some went as far as bruising the shoulder of my current manager while in a bit of a tussle with a thief. I even played part escort 86ing a trespasser with a fellow cashier with a military background in Army tank mechanics. I've heard of baskets gone missing, carts going missing, some as far as being spotted at my apartment! Yes! Two in fact.

[hotdogPi]

I recall a recent uptick in customers with large backpacks or carrier bags while working at Missoula Fresh Market (now known as Yoke's Fresh Market). It annoyed a few employees having to somewhat politely remind them to take them to the customer service counter and leave them there until they're done shopping. It got to a point where I made two signs about the backpacks and stuck them at both the deli and floral entrances before management took my signs and made official ones with a little more clarity.  We even had the entryways rearranged at one point due to an uptick of thieves from the Poverello Center coming to snag, and don't ask how I know the brand beer, Ritas! Yes. Ritas! Mang-o-Rita, Melon-Rita, yeah. That. They're the most common alcoholic drink to be stolen. For what rhyme or reason, I have no clue, but a handful seemed to have come along and snag those buggers. Some went as far as bruising the shoulder of my current manager while in a bit of a tussle with a thief. I even played part escort 86ing a trespasser with a fellow cashier with a military background in Army tank mechanics. I've heard of baskets gone missing, carts going missing, some as far as being spotted at my apartment! Yes! Two in fact.

I was once at a grocery store that had a sign saying that large bags weren't allowed inside the store. I had my typical reusable grocery bags with me. I didn't buy anything there, and on the way out, they told me that I wasn't supposed to bring my reusable bags with me and that I needed to leave them at the front. I'm confused now. Are reusable bags considered to be large bags or not?

[skluth]

That said, smoking didn't bother me much when I was running a BK drive thru (I could just close the drive thru window so it wouldn't get in the restaurant).

I have a funny feeling that there was an incident involving something more pungent than the tobacco in regular cigarettes. And, I don't want to know more.

Let's just say that the staff of our BK probably wouldn't have had the same issue with that that yours did....

No BK would have a problem with that. [that stuff] fuels the fast-food industry. I couldn't have handled my job at McD's were it not so. Fast food work is depressing, degrading, dehumanizing work, unless you're the manager doing the degrading and dehumanizing. It was the only way I could deal.

I think it's a fairly degrading job, even for the manager.  Sure they get paid a few more pennies for their time, but they seem to be pretty eager to get out of there even if it's just to work at a sitdown restaurant.

It would depend on the pay. McD's and most other local fast food places are paying $15/hour or more these day. The local sitdown restaurants are still paying what little they can and figure the wait staff makes it up on tips while the cooks and dishwashers are making minimum wage and being as abused as they are at fast food places. It's probably better at the casinos and some of the bigger chain restaurants, but the family restaurants haven't adjusted to the change and complain to the local media that nobody wants to work.

[kkt]

How minimum wage is applied depends on the place.  Here at the sitdown restaurants the servers make minimum wage, $15 something, AND keep their tips on top of it.

[CtrlAltDel]

I finally figured out that you can get rid of the pesky leading 0 in dates as they are displayed on this web forum. So, there's a thing that used to annoy me that doesn't any more.

[Scott5114]

That said, smoking didn't bother me much when I was running a BK drive thru (I could just close the drive thru window so it wouldn't get in the restaurant).

I have a funny feeling that there was an incident involving something more pungent than the tobacco in regular cigarettes. And, I don't want to know more.

Let's just say that the staff of our BK probably wouldn't have had the same issue with that that yours did....

No BK would have a problem with that. [that stuff] fuels the fast-food industry. I couldn't have handled my job at McD's were it not so. Fast food work is depressing, degrading, dehumanizing work, unless you're the manager doing the degrading and dehumanizing. It was the only way I could deal.

I think it's a fairly degrading job, even for the manager.  Sure they get paid a few more pennies for their time, but they seem to be pretty eager to get out of there even if it's just to work at a sitdown restaurant.

When I was a manager, I made the same six dollars an hour everyone did. (I also didn't do any degrading because we got plenty of that from the customers, so I saw no reason to make it any worse.)

[thspfc]

Minimum wage should be at least $10 an hour, after taxes, regardless of the nature of the job, and tips should not deduct from that via "tip tax". All commercial drivers should make 6 figures minimum. What bothers me the most is how a stupid tik tok influencer can make 6x the salary of a neurosurgeon.

Basic economics out the window?

[hotdogPi]

Minimum wage should be at least $10 an hour, after taxes, regardless of the nature of the job, and tips should not deduct from that via "tip tax". All commercial drivers should make 6 figures minimum. What bothers me the most is how a stupid tik tok influencer can make 6x the salary of a neurosurgeon.

Basic economics out the window?

I agree on everything here except truck driver salaries. There should be an official cost of living index. Minimum wage should be a formula based on cost of living. There's nothing magic about the amount $10, but the formula would give numbers slightly above $10 post-tax for the cheapest areas. (States and cities can still set it higher.) Lower tipped minimum wages should not exist.

Don't influencers mainly make money from their fans giving it to them? That can't be controlled by the platforms, whether it's TikTok, Instagram, or something else.

[Max Rockatansky]

^^^

I find it odd to begrudge what somewhat makes on social media just because I don't understand or care for presentation at hand.  I sure wish people who would pay me for the things I presently do in a hobby capacity.

Minimum wage should be at least $10 an hour, after taxes, regardless of the nature of the job, and tips should not deduct from that via "tip tax". All commercial drivers should make 6 figures minimum. What bothers me the most is how a stupid tik tok influencer can make 6x the salary of a neurosurgeon.

Economic policy from the guy who from all evidence put forth is jobless.

[MultiMillionMiler]

Minimum wage should be at least $10 an hour, after taxes, regardless of the nature of the job, and tips should not deduct from that via "tip tax". All commercial drivers should make 6 figures minimum. What bothers me the most is how a stupid tik tok influencer can make 6x the salary of a neurosurgeon.

Economic policy from the guy who from all evidence put forth is jobless.

Ever consider that this is the reason? Given how extremely unfair it is I will wait as long as it takes to find the best possible job. Truck drivers should get paid a minimum of $50 an hour, with a bonus for bad weather, and the ability to choose their own hours each day so they don't have to drive while sleep deprived. Anyone with basic economic knowledge knows that without truck drivers, the economy slams on the brakes.

[Scott5114]

The unfair compensation that truck drivers receive (the pay structure is so bad that some of them even lose money doing it) is one of the reasons why there is a now-chronic shortage of truck drivers.

[MultiMillionMiler]

Minimum wage should be at least $10 an hour, after taxes, regardless of the nature of the job, and tips should not deduct from that via "tip tax". All commercial drivers should make 6 figures minimum. What bothers me the most is how a stupid tik tok influencer can make 6x the salary of a neurosurgeon.

Basic economics out the window?

I agree on everything here except truck driver salaries. There should be an official cost of living index. Minimum wage should be a formula based on cost of living. There's nothing magic about the amount $10, but the formula would give numbers slightly above $10 post-tax for the cheapest areas. (States and cities can still set it higher.) Lower tipped minimum wages should not exist.

Don't influencers mainly make money from their fans giving it to them? That can't be controlled by the platforms, whether it's TikTok, Instagram, or something else.

The platform can't control it, but people who make multi-millions from useless shit like that should be taxed enormously. Use those taxes to help increase pay for useful workers and the creation of universal Healthcare.

@Scott, yep and people whine when there's a shortage of them. I am considering on not wasting my time with commercial driving school as the crappy pay isn't worth the effort, compared to personal vehicle courriers, or certain unionized companies that don't require a CDL.

[Scott5114]

Perhaps if you have such strong opinions on tax policy and wage issues, you should vote for candidates for federal office that feel the same way you do.

[Max Rockatansky]

^^^

He doesn't vote remember?  Easier to armchair quarterback when you're opinion literally counts for nothing.

Minimum wage should be at least $10 an hour, after taxes, regardless of the nature of the job, and tips should not deduct from that via "tip tax". All commercial drivers should make 6 figures minimum. What bothers me the most is how a stupid tik tok influencer can make 6x the salary of a neurosurgeon.

Economic policy from the guy who from all evidence put forth is jobless.

Ever consider that this is the reason? Given how extremely unfair it is I will wait as long as it takes to find the best possible job. Truck drivers should get paid a minimum of $50 an hour, with a bonus for bad weather, and the ability to choose their own hours each day so they don't have to drive while sleep deprived. Anyone with basic economic knowledge knows that without truck drivers, the economy slams on the brakes.

I worked through high school and moved across the country a week after high school with my savings.  I struggled financially until I was 22 when I obtained my first management but I made things work by budgeting (which included paying for community college).  Basically I had to take what many would consider undesirable work and build a resume to parlay into something better.  Nobody felt sorry for me, so if you want sympathy you're barking up the wrong tree.  Come back in five years when you have actually taken some sort of effort into this commercial driving career you claim to want to pursue.

[LilianaUwU]

A minor thing that bothers me: when people who are not experts on a subject try to act as though they know everything on that subject.

[jeffandnicole]

Minimum wage should be at least $10 an hour, after taxes, regardless of the nature of the job, and tips should not deduct from that via "tip tax". All commercial drivers should make 6 figures minimum. What bothers me the most is how a stupid tik tok influencer can make 6x the salary of a neurosurgeon.

Economic policy from the guy who from all evidence put forth is jobless.

Ever consider that this is the reason? Given how extremely unfair it is I will wait as long as it takes to find the best possible job. Truck drivers should get paid a minimum of $50 an hour, with a bonus for bad weather, and the ability to choose their own hours each day so they don't have to drive while sleep deprived. Anyone with basic economic knowledge knows that without truck drivers, the economy slams on the brakes.

There's certainly jobs like that, but there's also a such thing as seniority.  Everyone wants to work 7 to 4, or 8 to 5, so someone coming in off the street will have to fight with someone who's already employed at the business.  Someone putting in their dues with the crappy hours will eventually get the opportunity to work the better hours.

There's also a thing regarding a gap in job history.  There's plenty of jobs out there.  If people apply for a position, interviewers will question why a resume has an unexplained absence in their work history.

And, sure, the economy stops without trucks rolling.  We've all heard that as an excuse from truckers to get their way.  But the entire trucking industry isn't going to shut down.  A company here and there may experience a strike, or a shortage, but the line of thought that you can hold out for $50 a hour because the country needs truckers is akeen to a high school dropout wanting a 6 figure management position without prior experience.  There's going to be one or two examples where it worked.  There's going to be millions of examples where it didn't.

[Max Rockatansky]

A minor thing that bothers me: when people who are not experts on a subject try to act as though they know everything on that subject.

A label which would apply to every opinion expressed by MMM on this forum.

[kkt]

Minimum wage should be at least $10 an hour, after taxes, regardless of the nature of the job, and tips should not deduct from that via "tip tax". All commercial drivers should make 6 figures minimum. What bothers me the most is how a stupid tik tok influencer can make 6x the salary of a neurosurgeon.

So it doesn't matter whether they're working in Manhattan or Cheyenne, the minimum wage should be the same?

[LilianaUwU]

I'm 23 and still live at home.

I'm one year older than you and in the same situation, yet I know what you're saying is unrealistic.

[Bruce]

Things that actually bother me (and probably most other Americans): the ultra-wealthy paying next to nothing in taxes because they can utilize all sorts of loopholes and breaks.

Even worse in a state like mine without an income tax. Sales tax is our main revenue source for a lot of essential needs and it's regressive, so the poor pay a higher percentage than Bill and Jeff in Medina.

[jeffandnicole]

That lack of empathy for struggling Gen Z is part of the problem.

Lack of?

You're not struggling.  Struggling would mean you're trying to get a job and trying to make ends meet.  Sitting back until you get the best possible job is telling everyone you refuse to get experience. 

Interview with me and I'll have two questions:  Why the gap in your work experience, and what is your experience?  Maybe you're out of college for a few years.  Maybe you can explain the "struggle" of trying to find a job.  But most people conducting interviews knows what's out there.  There's plenty of people with the qualifications.  We aren't taking everyone we talk with.

If you're going for an entry level position, we're willing to overlook certain things based on your interview and how you conduct yourself.  But if you're going for a position that most people would need a few promotions to obtain, or need a few year's experience, you won't even make it on the long list of resumes to review if you don't show any relevant history for us.

If you have a CDL Class A but want $100,000, drive local and be home nightly after never driving a Class A truck, me and my insurance company are going to file your application in a folder that will never see the light of day again.   If we see you drove for Swift or JB Hunt to get your trucking career going, or even drove a Class B truck, then you'll be invited in to talk.

[Hunty2022]

When I take a picture of any sign while going 70+ mph on an interstate, just for the photo to delay when it gets taken, so I just get an image of grass and trees.

When the image converter I use to be able to post my images here doesn't work, so I have to wait or not post the image at all.

[Scott5114]

There's certainly jobs like that, but there's also a such thing as seniority.  Everyone wants to work 7 to 4, or 8 to 5, so someone coming in off the street will have to fight with someone who's already employed at the business.  Someone putting in their dues with the crappy hours will eventually get the opportunity to work the better hours.

My strategy was to always try to work the shittiest hours because then I would be assured at being able to at least exert some control over the situation. By the time I was at the top of the seniority stack I had organized my life around working 2:30p-11p with Tue/Wed/Thu off for so long that it was a no-brainer to keep picking that, which seemed to baffle management.

Honestly, I kind of liked working those hours. The weekends were far busier at work than during the week. If I would have done the obvious thing and taken Fri/Sat/Sun off, I would have died of boredom, both because work was dead during the week and I wouldn't have had anything to do on the weekends because everyone I knew would have been at work in my stead. (And since I worked a tipped position, probably made less money, too.)