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Rothman

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 06:22:50 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:53:08 PMI mean, I'm not saying that Canada has no unique identity, it certainly does, especially Quebec, but they consume the same music and TV shows, watch the same sports, having tipping culture and car centric cities.

Tell me you have never met a Canadian royalist without saying you've never met a Canadian royalist.
I was under the impression that Canadians really don't care much about the British Royal Family- I'm sure some do, but many Americans care about it as well.

Perhaps you should gain more experience and exposure before coming to conclusions.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.


kphoger

Quote from: DTComposer on September 23, 2025, 06:44:05 PMSM-58s that reek of beer and cigarettes

I know what SM-58s are but, in this context, I think it should mean "Sado-masochists born in 1958".

A few years ago, I saw Leo Kottke in concert and, at one point, he launched into an amazing poetic description of his experience with SM-58s over the years at countless concert venues.  I really wish his description existed in writing, because it was a work of art.  Things I remember from it were his comparison of opening the case of them to scientists opening a case of uranium cores, and especially his vivid description of how hundreds of people have expectorated all over them year after year after year.  This was all by way of explaining to us concert-goers why he now chooses to bring his own mic to every concert he performs instead of using the house mic.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 07:34:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 06:22:50 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:53:08 PMI mean, I'm not saying that Canada has no unique identity, it certainly does, especially Quebec, but they consume the same music and TV shows, watch the same sports, having tipping culture and car centric cities.

Tell me you have never met a Canadian royalist without saying you've never met a Canadian royalist.
I was under the impression that Canadians really don't care much about the British Royal Family- I'm sure some do, but many Americans care about it as well.

Perhaps you should gain more experience and exposure before coming to conclusions.

https://angusreid.org/king-charles-throne-speech-canada/

From what I've seen from Canadians online, some like it but most don't care, and younger Canadians care less about it than older Canadians.
My username has been outdated since August 2023 but I'm too lazy to change it

TheHighwayMan3561

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:42:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 23, 2025, 03:21:42 PMInsecure Canadians whose national identity revolves around complaining about America.  :-P
When Canadians don't realize their nation is basically America with free Healthcare and half of the metric system and that they far more similar culturally to America than any other country on earth.

Familiarity breeds contempt.

Rothman

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 08:22:37 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 07:34:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 06:22:50 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:53:08 PMI mean, I'm not saying that Canada has no unique identity, it certainly does, especially Quebec, but they consume the same music and TV shows, watch the same sports, having tipping culture and car centric cities.

Tell me you have never met a Canadian royalist without saying you've never met a Canadian royalist.
I was under the impression that Canadians really don't care much about the British Royal Family- I'm sure some do, but many Americans care about it as well.

Perhaps you should gain more experience and exposure before coming to conclusions.

https://angusreid.org/king-charles-throne-speech-canada/

From what I've seen from Canadians online, some like it but most don't care, and younger Canadians care less about it than older Canadians.

Online =/= IRL
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 08:39:13 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 08:22:37 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 07:34:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 06:22:50 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:53:08 PMI mean, I'm not saying that Canada has no unique identity, it certainly does, especially Quebec, but they consume the same music and TV shows, watch the same sports, having tipping culture and car centric cities.

Tell me you have never met a Canadian royalist without saying you've never met a Canadian royalist.
I was under the impression that Canadians really don't care much about the British Royal Family- I'm sure some do, but many Americans care about it as well.

Perhaps you should gain more experience and exposure before coming to conclusions.

https://angusreid.org/king-charles-throne-speech-canada/

From what I've seen from Canadians online, some like it but most don't care, and younger Canadians care less about it than older Canadians.

Online =/= IRL
Quote from: TheHighwayMan3561 on September 23, 2025, 08:30:54 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:42:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 23, 2025, 03:21:42 PMInsecure Canadians whose national identity revolves around complaining about America.  :-P
When Canadians don't realize their nation is basically America with free Healthcare and half of the metric system and that they far more similar culturally to America than any other country on earth.

Familiarity breeds contempt.
Some of the countries that are the biggest enemies on earth have many cultural similarities. Just look at India and Pakistan.
My username has been outdated since August 2023 but I'm too lazy to change it

Max Rockatansky

#12831
Quote from: TheHighwayMan3561 on September 23, 2025, 08:30:54 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:42:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 23, 2025, 03:21:42 PMInsecure Canadians whose national identity revolves around complaining about America.  :-P
When Canadians don't realize their nation is basically America with free Healthcare and half of the metric system and that they far more similar culturally to America than any other country on earth.

Familiarity breeds contempt.

It is pretty refreshing going south one country and actually feeling like you are somewhere foreign.  I've never gotten that feeling while visiting Canada. 

A decade an ago dated a native born Canadian for four years.  Two of the things she complained about most were American politics and those in Quebec.  I mostly just tuned her out when she got on about something like Republicans, Trump or PQ.  Strangely she also absolutely despised the Canadian health care system.  I found that to be something of an odd contradiction.

I guess the takeaway was that I found to be virtually no real distinction between Americans and Canadians.

JayhawkCO

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 08:48:25 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 08:39:13 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 08:22:37 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 07:34:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 06:22:50 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:53:08 PMI mean, I'm not saying that Canada has no unique identity, it certainly does, especially Quebec, but they consume the same music and TV shows, watch the same sports, having tipping culture and car centric cities.

Tell me you have never met a Canadian royalist without saying you've never met a Canadian royalist.
I was under the impression that Canadians really don't care much about the British Royal Family- I'm sure some do, but many Americans care about it as well.

Perhaps you should gain more experience and exposure before coming to conclusions.

https://angusreid.org/king-charles-throne-speech-canada/

From what I've seen from Canadians online, some like it but most don't care, and younger Canadians care less about it than older Canadians.

Online =/= IRL
Quote from: TheHighwayMan3561 on September 23, 2025, 08:30:54 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:42:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 23, 2025, 03:21:42 PMInsecure Canadians whose national identity revolves around complaining about America.  :-P
When Canadians don't realize their nation is basically America with free Healthcare and half of the metric system and that they far more similar culturally to America than any other country on earth.

Familiarity breeds contempt.
Some of the countries that are the biggest enemies on earth have many cultural similarities. Just look at India and Pakistan.

I have no dog in this fight, but that's not a fair comparison. Religious differences are the main difference between India and Pakistan and the source of 98% of their problems. The US and Canada have no such distinctions.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 09:41:17 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 08:48:25 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 08:39:13 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 08:22:37 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 07:34:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 06:22:50 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:53:08 PMI mean, I'm not saying that Canada has no unique identity, it certainly does, especially Quebec, but they consume the same music and TV shows, watch the same sports, having tipping culture and car centric cities.

Tell me you have never met a Canadian royalist without saying you've never met a Canadian royalist.
I was under the impression that Canadians really don't care much about the British Royal Family- I'm sure some do, but many Americans care about it as well.

Perhaps you should gain more experience and exposure before coming to conclusions.

https://angusreid.org/king-charles-throne-speech-canada/

From what I've seen from Canadians online, some like it but most don't care, and younger Canadians care less about it than older Canadians.

Online =/= IRL
Quote from: TheHighwayMan3561 on September 23, 2025, 08:30:54 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:42:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 23, 2025, 03:21:42 PMInsecure Canadians whose national identity revolves around complaining about America.  :-P
When Canadians don't realize their nation is basically America with free Healthcare and half of the metric system and that they far more similar culturally to America than any other country on earth.

Familiarity breeds contempt.
Some of the countries that are the biggest enemies on earth have many cultural similarities. Just look at India and Pakistan.

I have no dog in this fight, but that's not a fair comparison. Religious differences are the main difference between India and Pakistan and the source of 98% of their problems. The US and Canada have no such distinctions.
I'd say the border disputes have to do more in it. Religion plays a role, but India gets along good with other Islamic Countries like Iran.
My username has been outdated since August 2023 but I'm too lazy to change it

Rothman

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:05:40 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 09:41:17 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 08:48:25 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 08:39:13 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 08:22:37 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 07:34:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 06:22:50 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:53:08 PMI mean, I'm not saying that Canada has no unique identity, it certainly does, especially Quebec, but they consume the same music and TV shows, watch the same sports, having tipping culture and car centric cities.

Tell me you have never met a Canadian royalist without saying you've never met a Canadian royalist.
I was under the impression that Canadians really don't care much about the British Royal Family- I'm sure some do, but many Americans care about it as well.

Perhaps you should gain more experience and exposure before coming to conclusions.

https://angusreid.org/king-charles-throne-speech-canada/

From what I've seen from Canadians online, some like it but most don't care, and younger Canadians care less about it than older Canadians.

Online =/= IRL
Quote from: TheHighwayMan3561 on September 23, 2025, 08:30:54 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:42:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 23, 2025, 03:21:42 PMInsecure Canadians whose national identity revolves around complaining about America.  :-P
When Canadians don't realize their nation is basically America with free Healthcare and half of the metric system and that they far more similar culturally to America than any other country on earth.

Familiarity breeds contempt.
Some of the countries that are the biggest enemies on earth have many cultural similarities. Just look at India and Pakistan.

I have no dog in this fight, but that's not a fair comparison. Religious differences are the main difference between India and Pakistan and the source of 98% of their problems. The US and Canada have no such distinctions.
I'd say the border disputes have to do more in it. Religion plays a role, but India gets along good with other Islamic Countries like Iran.

O.o

There's also this matter of the history between the two countries...
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 10:33:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:05:40 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 09:41:17 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 08:48:25 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 08:39:13 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 08:22:37 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 07:34:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 06:22:50 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:53:08 PMI mean, I'm not saying that Canada has no unique identity, it certainly does, especially Quebec, but they consume the same music and TV shows, watch the same sports, having tipping culture and car centric cities.

Tell me you have never met a Canadian royalist without saying you've never met a Canadian royalist.
I was under the impression that Canadians really don't care much about the British Royal Family- I'm sure some do, but many Americans care about it as well.

Perhaps you should gain more experience and exposure before coming to conclusions.

https://angusreid.org/king-charles-throne-speech-canada/

From what I've seen from Canadians online, some like it but most don't care, and younger Canadians care less about it than older Canadians.

Online =/= IRL
Quote from: TheHighwayMan3561 on September 23, 2025, 08:30:54 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:42:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 23, 2025, 03:21:42 PMInsecure Canadians whose national identity revolves around complaining about America.  :-P
When Canadians don't realize their nation is basically America with free Healthcare and half of the metric system and that they far more similar culturally to America than any other country on earth.

Familiarity breeds contempt.
Some of the countries that are the biggest enemies on earth have many cultural similarities. Just look at India and Pakistan.

I have no dog in this fight, but that's not a fair comparison. Religious differences are the main difference between India and Pakistan and the source of 98% of their problems. The US and Canada have no such distinctions.
I'd say the border disputes have to do more in it. Religion plays a role, but India gets along good with other Islamic Countries like Iran.

O.o

There's also this matter of the history between the two countries...
I'd say that religion definitely played a role, but I actually would say most wars and conflicts stopped being mainly about religion in about the 1600s.
My username has been outdated since August 2023 but I'm too lazy to change it

JayhawkCO

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:41:51 PMI'd say that religion definitely played a role, but I actually would say most wars and conflicts stopped being mainly about religion in about the 1600s.

I've never disagreed with a statement more on this site.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:41:51 PMI'd say that religion definitely played a role, but I actually would say most wars and conflicts stopped being mainly about religion in about the 1600s.

I've never disagreed with a statement more on this site.
Wars are mostly about power. Religion is sometimes part of it, but following the 30 years war most major wars were not really about pure religion devotion, especially post enlightenment in the 1700s. WW1 and WW2 were certainly not religious wars, neither was the 7 years war, neither was the American revolution or the Civil War. Obviously there are some exceptions like the Israel Palestine conflict. That's obviously not to say that religion didn't play a part in many of then.
My username has been outdated since August 2023 but I'm too lazy to change it

JayhawkCO

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:53:58 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:41:51 PMI'd say that religion definitely played a role, but I actually would say most wars and conflicts stopped being mainly about religion in about the 1600s.

I've never disagreed with a statement more on this site.
Wars are mostly about power. Religion is sometimes part of it, but following the 30 years war most major wars were not really about pure religion devotion, especially post enlightenment in the 1700s. WW1 and WW2 were certainly not religious wars, neither was the 7 years war, neither was the American revolution or the Civil War. Obviously there are some exceptions like the Israel Palestine conflict. That's obviously not to say that religion didn't play a part in many of then.

Not talking shit just to be a jerk. Do you know about the history of India and Pakistan/Bangladesh and how they separated from the British Empire?

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 10:59:24 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:53:58 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:41:51 PMI'd say that religion definitely played a role, but I actually would say most wars and conflicts stopped being mainly about religion in about the 1600s.

I've never disagreed with a statement more on this site.
Wars are mostly about power. Religion is sometimes part of it, but following the 30 years war most major wars were not really about pure religion devotion, especially post enlightenment in the 1700s. WW1 and WW2 were certainly not religious wars, neither was the 7 years war, neither was the American revolution or the Civil War. Obviously there are some exceptions like the Israel Palestine conflict. That's obviously not to say that religion didn't play a part in many of then.

Not talking shit just to be a jerk. Do you know about the history of India and Pakistan/Bangladesh and how they separated from the British Empire?
Yes, I am very aware that it was split up into a Muslim and Hindu state, so religion played a big role in the conflict. However, Bangledash had their own brutal war of independence from Pakistan, both being Muslim. My point is that major wars for the most part started being less and less about religion during the age of enlightenment, at least in Europe.
My username has been outdated since August 2023 but I'm too lazy to change it

JayhawkCO

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 11:02:24 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 10:59:24 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:53:58 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:41:51 PMI'd say that religion definitely played a role, but I actually would say most wars and conflicts stopped being mainly about religion in about the 1600s.

I've never disagreed with a statement more on this site.
Wars are mostly about power. Religion is sometimes part of it, but following the 30 years war most major wars were not really about pure religion devotion, especially post enlightenment in the 1700s. WW1 and WW2 were certainly not religious wars, neither was the 7 years war, neither was the American revolution or the Civil War. Obviously there are some exceptions like the Israel Palestine conflict. That's obviously not to say that religion didn't play a part in many of then.

Not talking shit just to be a jerk. Do you know about the history of India and Pakistan/Bangladesh and how they separated from the British Empire?
Yes, I am very aware that it was split up into a Muslim and Hindu state, so religion played a big role in the conflict. However, Bangledash had their own brutal war of independence from Pakistan, both being Muslim. My point is that major wars for the most part started being less and less about religion during the age of enlightenment, at least in Europe.

How's Yugoslavia doing?

kphoger

Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 23, 2025, 06:06:41 PMIf it weren't for Québec, Canada would have no culture.

Close.  You're so close.

If it weren't for Québec, Canada would basically be the United States.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 11:04:04 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 11:02:24 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 10:59:24 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:53:58 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:41:51 PMI'd say that religion definitely played a role, but I actually would say most wars and conflicts stopped being mainly about religion in about the 1600s.

I've never disagreed with a statement more on this site.
Wars are mostly about power. Religion is sometimes part of it, but following the 30 years war most major wars were not really about pure religion devotion, especially post enlightenment in the 1700s. WW1 and WW2 were certainly not religious wars, neither was the 7 years war, neither was the American revolution or the Civil War. Obviously there are some exceptions like the Israel Palestine conflict. That's obviously not to say that religion didn't play a part in many of then.

Not talking shit just to be a jerk. Do you know about the history of India and Pakistan/Bangladesh and how they separated from the British Empire?
Yes, I am very aware that it was split up into a Muslim and Hindu state, so religion played a big role in the conflict. However, Bangledash had their own brutal war of independence from Pakistan, both being Muslim. My point is that major wars for the most part started being less and less about religion during the age of enlightenment, at least in Europe.

How's Yugoslavia doing?
Yugoslavia didn't break up because of religion, from doing a search to see what Balkan people think. Yugoslavia was a socialist state and the populous was not exactly devout. Especially the Muslim part- Kosovars/Albanians are very secular Muslims.
My username has been outdated since August 2023 but I'm too lazy to change it

kkt

Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 23, 2025, 06:06:41 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:53:08 PMI mean, I'm not saying that Canada has no unique identity, it certainly does, especially Quebec, but they consume the same music and TV shows, watch the same sports, having tipping culture and car centric cities.
If it weren't for Québec, Canada would have no culture.

Wow.  Just... wow.

Roadgeekteen

There is nowhere on earth with no culture. It's silly to pretend otherwise.
My username has been outdated since August 2023 but I'm too lazy to change it

Rothman

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 11:10:25 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 11:04:04 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 11:02:24 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 10:59:24 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:53:58 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:41:51 PMI'd say that religion definitely played a role, but I actually would say most wars and conflicts stopped being mainly about religion in about the 1600s.

I've never disagreed with a statement more on this site.
Wars are mostly about power. Religion is sometimes part of it, but following the 30 years war most major wars were not really about pure religion devotion, especially post enlightenment in the 1700s. WW1 and WW2 were certainly not religious wars, neither was the 7 years war, neither was the American revolution or the Civil War. Obviously there are some exceptions like the Israel Palestine conflict. That's obviously not to say that religion didn't play a part in many of then.

Not talking shit just to be a jerk. Do you know about the history of India and Pakistan/Bangladesh and how they separated from the British Empire?
Yes, I am very aware that it was split up into a Muslim and Hindu state, so religion played a big role in the conflict. However, Bangledash had their own brutal war of independence from Pakistan, both being Muslim. My point is that major wars for the most part started being less and less about religion during the age of enlightenment, at least in Europe.

How's Yugoslavia doing?
Yugoslavia didn't break up because of religion, from doing a search to see what Balkan people think. Yugoslavia was a socialist state and the populous was not exactly devout. Especially the Muslim part- Kosovars/Albanians are very secular Muslims.

I am tiring of RGT's insistent ignorance.

*checks clock*

That night explain my thinning patience.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Rothman on September 23, 2025, 11:18:06 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 11:10:25 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 11:04:04 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 11:02:24 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 10:59:24 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:53:58 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:41:51 PMI'd say that religion definitely played a role, but I actually would say most wars and conflicts stopped being mainly about religion in about the 1600s.

I've never disagreed with a statement more on this site.
Wars are mostly about power. Religion is sometimes part of it, but following the 30 years war most major wars were not really about pure religion devotion, especially post enlightenment in the 1700s. WW1 and WW2 were certainly not religious wars, neither was the 7 years war, neither was the American revolution or the Civil War. Obviously there are some exceptions like the Israel Palestine conflict. That's obviously not to say that religion didn't play a part in many of then.

Not talking shit just to be a jerk. Do you know about the history of India and Pakistan/Bangladesh and how they separated from the British Empire?
Yes, I am very aware that it was split up into a Muslim and Hindu state, so religion played a big role in the conflict. However, Bangledash had their own brutal war of independence from Pakistan, both being Muslim. My point is that major wars for the most part started being less and less about religion during the age of enlightenment, at least in Europe.

How's Yugoslavia doing?
Yugoslavia didn't break up because of religion, from doing a search to see what Balkan people think. Yugoslavia was a socialist state and the populous was not exactly devout. Especially the Muslim part- Kosovars/Albanians are very secular Muslims.

I am tiring of RGT's insistent ignorance.

*checks clock*

That night explain my thinning patience.
And what do you know? Do you just always assume you are right? If you disagree with me, give me sources to back up your claims. I'm very willing to admit I'm wrong about something, but you have to actually give me a reason to believe you.
My username has been outdated since August 2023 but I'm too lazy to change it

JayhawkCO

#12847
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 11:10:25 PMYugoslavia didn't break up because of religion, from doing a search to see what Balkan people think. Yugoslavia was a socialist state and the populous was not exactly devout. Especially the Muslim part- Kosovars/Albanians are very secular Muslims.

Never said it was a "Christian jihad". But inform yourself about the mass rape of Bosnian Muslim women. It's also not just state sponsored warfare that is religion-based -- ask the Yazidi, the Rohingya, the Mindanoans, the Sinhalese/Tamils in Sri Lanka, the Copts, the victims of Boko Haram, the Shia in Syria, etc., etc., etc.

Rothman

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 11:20:42 PM
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 11:10:25 PM
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 11:02:24 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 10:59:24 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:53:58 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 23, 2025, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 10:41:51 PMI'd say that religion definitely played a role, but I actually would say most wars and conflicts stopped being mainly about religion in about the 1600s.

I've never disagreed with a statement more on this site.
Wars are mostly about power. Religion is sometimes part of it, but following the 30 years war most major wars were not really about pure religion devotion, especially post enlightenment in the 1700s. WW1 and WW2 were certainly not religious wars, neither was the 7 years war, neither was the American revolution or the Civil War. Obviously there are some exceptions like the Israel Palestine conflict. That's obviously not to say that religion didn't play a part in many of then.

Not talking shit just to be a jerk. Do you know about the history of India and Pakistan/Bangladesh and how they separated from the British Empire?
Yes, I am very aware that it was split up into a Muslim and Hindu state, so religion played a big role in the conflict. However, Bangledash had their own brutal war of independence from Pakistan, both being Muslim. My point is that major wars for the most part started being less and less about religion during the age of enlightenment, at least in Europe.

How's Yugoslavia doing?
Yugoslavia didn't break up because of religion, from doing a search to see what Balkan people think. Yugoslavia was a socialist state and the populous was not exactly devout. Especially the Muslim part- Kosovars/Albanians are very secular Muslims.

I am tiring of RGT's insistent ignorance.

*checks clock*

That night explain my thinning patience.
And what do you know? Do you just always assume you are right? If you disagree with me, give me sources to back up your claims. I'm very willing to admit I'm wrong about something, but you have to actually give me a reason to believe you.

Pfft.  You haven't provided sources for your blunt, inaccurate conclusions either.

As someone who was alive during the Yugoslavian dissolution and war, needless to say that your summary was patently naive.

As someone who lived in Russia shortly after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, just making broad assumptions like "X country was Socialist so it was secular" is simply evidence of being unwilling to comprehend the more nuanced complexities of such societies.

Again, you tend to arrive at your conclusions far too soon.
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Quote from: kkt on September 23, 2025, 11:11:04 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 23, 2025, 06:06:41 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 23, 2025, 03:53:08 PMI mean, I'm not saying that Canada has no unique identity, it certainly does, especially Quebec, but they consume the same music and TV shows, watch the same sports, having tipping culture and car centric cities.
If it weren't for Québec, Canada would have no culture.

Wow.  Just... wow.


I mean... I got the perfect example in poutine. Poutine was ridiculed in the rest of Canada until they actually tried it, now they claim it's theirs.
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