Coronavirus pandemic

[Max Rockatansky]

I think we should be able to use some common sense. [...] People who are at risk should minimize their risk. Those who are in contact with them should use common sense and their own good judgment about public interactions. But don't restrict the rest of us who aren't in those positions.

The problem is that the American public is full of selfish assholes who will do whatever they want without thinking about the consequences for anyone else. You would know better than to visit your elderly father and risk giving him the virus. There are people who would be like "This whole coronavirus thing is overblown, there's no way I could have it, I'm gonna go see Dad!" and end up murdering him with their own stupidity.

Hit the nail right on the head. Comment sections all over the internet are full of these specimens.

Murder is a tad strong sentiment. That's the extremism I'm starting to see out of the general populace and that has real potential to be an incredibly dangerous mindset.  . 

[stormwatch7721]

I think we should be able to use some common sense. [...] People who are at risk should minimize their risk. Those who are in contact with them should use common sense and their own good judgment about public interactions. But don't restrict the rest of us who aren't in those positions.

The problem is that the American public is full of selfish assholes who will do whatever they want without thinking about the consequences for anyone else. You would know better than to visit your elderly father and risk giving him the virus. There are people who would be like "This whole coronavirus thing is overblown, there's no way I could have it, I'm gonna go see Dad!" and end up murdering him with their own stupidity.

Hit the nail right on the head. Comment sections all over the internet are full of these specimens.

Murder is a tad strong sentiment. That's the extremism I'm starting to see out of the general populace and that has real potential to be an incredibly dangerous mindset.  .

That's horrible

LGL322DL

[TheGrassGuy]

I think we should be able to use some common sense. [...] People who are at risk should minimize their risk. Those who are in contact with them should use common sense and their own good judgment about public interactions. But don't restrict the rest of us who aren't in those positions.

The problem is that the American public is full of selfish assholes who will do whatever they want without thinking about the consequences for anyone else. You would know better than to visit your elderly father and risk giving him the virus. There are people who would be like "This whole coronavirus thing is overblown, there's no way I could have it, I'm gonna go see Dad!" and end up murdering him with their own stupidity.

Hit the nail right on the head. Comment sections all over the internet are full of these specimens.

Murder is a tad strong sentiment. That's the extremism I'm starting to see out of the general populace and that has real potential to be an incredibly dangerous mindset.  .

That's horrible

LGL322DL

What, the "
murder" or the fact that many consider it murder?

[Scott5114]

What's extreme about it? You're told by someone "Hey, if you do this to someone else, they could die," you do it anyway, someone dies. How can you possibly say you didn't kill that person?

[kalvado]

I think we should be able to use some common sense. [...] People who are at risk should minimize their risk. Those who are in contact with them should use common sense and their own good judgment about public interactions. But don't restrict the rest of us who aren't in those positions.

The problem is that the American public is full of selfish assholes who will do whatever they want without thinking about the consequences for anyone else. You would know better than to visit your elderly father and risk giving him the virus. There are people who would be like "This whole coronavirus thing is overblown, there's no way I could have it, I'm gonna go see Dad!" and end up murdering him with their own stupidity.

Hit the nail right on the head. Comment sections all over the internet are full of these specimens.

Murder is a tad strong sentiment. That's the extremism I'm starting to see out of the general populace and that has real potential to be an incredibly dangerous mindset.  .

That's horrible

LGL322DL

What, the "
murder" or the fact that many consider it murder?

murder is a wrong term here. Murder is committed with "malice aforethought."  Manslaughter is the proper word to use.

[Max Rockatansky]

What's extreme about it? You're told by someone "Hey, if you do this to someone else, they could die," you do it anyway, someone dies. How can you possibly say you didn't kill that person?

Where is the premeditation or malice in that?  Some of us (like me) had to bring food and supplies to elderly family members because they can't care for themselves.  In those cases are there serious people on here that willing to call others "murderers?"   It sure sounds like it by some of the comments some of you are making. 

[stormwatch7721]

We are never getting back to normal if this keeps up

LGL322DL

[kalvado]

What's extreme about it? You're told by someone "Hey, if you do this to someone else, they could die," you do it anyway, someone dies. How can you possibly say you didn't kill that person?

Where is the premeditation or malice in that?  Some of us (like me) had to bring food and supplies to elderly family members because they can't care for themselves.  In those cases are there serious people on here that willing to call others "murderers?"   It sure sounds like it by some of the comments some of you are making.

Honestly speaking, leaving bags on doorsteps, waving through the window and leaving is the safer option in the current situation

[fwydriver405]

Illinois did as well.

Yes, even though it has coin baskets.  The buzz phrase in the email was something like "reduce person-to-person and person-to-surface contact."

One of my friends is a toll taker for the Maine Turnpike. From what I heard from him, he says he is "confident that the Maine Turnpike will continue to collect cash unless a country shutdown is mandated". Not sure how either Maine or New Hampshire will handle their cash collection in the near future...

[kalvado]

We are never getting back to normal if this keeps up

LGL322DL

Best case scenario, things are more or less to normal by fall (health-wise), worst case - 2022.
Economy... anyone's guess.

[bandit957]

I'd like to see junk mail stopped.

[Max Rockatansky]

What's extreme about it? You're told by someone "Hey, if you do this to someone else, they could die," you do it anyway, someone dies. How can you possibly say you didn't kill that person?

Where is the premeditation or malice in that?  Some of us (like me) had to bring food and supplies to elderly family members because they can't care for themselves.  In those cases are there serious people on here that willing to call others "murderers?"   It sure sounds like it by some of the comments some of you are making.

Honestly speaking, leaving bags on doorsteps, waving through the window and leaving is the safer option in the current situation

In my case she can barely walk, total avoidance isn't something that was on the table.  I suspect that there is a countless number of like stories out there.  I can't and I won't just abandoned family members who can't care for themselves in areas that are far removed from essential services.  Not everyone lives in some mass urban area where they can get help within minutes of making a phone call.

[TheGrassGuy]

What's extreme about it? You're told by someone "Hey, if you do this to someone else, they could die," you do it anyway, someone dies. How can you possibly say you didn't kill that person?

Where is the premeditation or malice in that?  Some of us (like me) had to bring food and supplies to elderly family members because they can't care for themselves.  In those cases are there serious people on here that willing to call others "murderers?"   It sure sounds like it by some of the comments some of you are making.

Well, I have to say, it must be hard for police departments all over the nation (and the world, for that matter) to keep their tabs on every single case of that happening. Duh. They're WAY too occupied with making sure that everyone doesn't go out to begin with to even bother dealing with issues of murder and so on.

[roadman65]

Right now we must remain calm as panic creates skeptism and conspiricies.  Plus create anger and rage.

[Scott5114]

I'd like to see junk mail stopped.

I'd like to see it stopped too, but not for anything having to do with the coronavirus: it's a huge waste of resources, and annoying to have to throw away/recycle.

[bandit957]

I'd like to see junk mail stopped.

I'd like to see it stopped too, but not for anything having to do with the coronavirus: it's a huge waste of resources, and annoying to have to throw away/recycle.

It's also a fire hazard.

[Max Rockatansky]

On a side I am keeping the two appointments I have presently for tomorrow and the one Friday given I'm not in an area declared under emergency.  Two of the three are critical needs things that really should be something I'm putting off.  My Wife had to get some emergency dental work done yesterday since they closed their office for two weeks as of today.  I ended up getting confirmation notices that everything is still a go, for the moment at least. 

[kalvado]

On a side I am keeping the two appointments I have presently for tomorrow and the one Friday given I'm not in an area declared under emergency.  Two of the three are critical needs things that really should be something I'm putting off.  My Wife had to get some emergency dental work done yesterday since they closed their office for two weeks as of today.  I ended up getting confirmation notices that everything is still a go, for the moment at least.

It really suck to be stuck in the middle of things.
I have a friend undergoing chemo... Which is a harsh thing even in better times.

[Max Rockatansky]

On a side I am keeping the two appointments I have presently for tomorrow and the one Friday given I'm not in an area declared under emergency.  Two of the three are critical needs things that really should be something I'm putting off.  My Wife had to get some emergency dental work done yesterday since they closed their office for two weeks as of today.  I ended up getting confirmation notices that everything is still a go, for the moment at least.

It really suck to be stuck in the middle of things.
I have a friend undergoing chemo... Which is a harsh thing even in better times.

Indeed, fortunately nothing quite to that extent is going on family wise right now.  I shudder to think what would have had happen to my Mom when she was going through cancer treatment now as opposed to 2014-2015.  Back then I checked on her from Orlando every couple days which was a 90 minute drive in good traffic. 

[TheGrassGuy]

How many pages will we get for this topic by the time it all peaks? We're at 30 now; I'm guessing 150.

[Bruce]

Washington has now passed 1,000 confirmed positive cases and 52 dead out of 14,000 tested.

https://twitter.com/ChrisDaniels5/status/1240044488627814402

Traffic is light, many busy areas are quiet going by the traffic cameras, and transit ridership has cratered (down 42% for Metro and 25% for Sound Transit).

[kalvado]

How many pages will we get for this topic by the time it all peaks? We're at 30 now; I'm guessing 150.

Depends on whether second wave would get its own thread.

[Duke87]

This one will make some of your heads explode: Maryland has gone to all-cashless tolling at all facilities until further notice.

I find it amazing how many agencies which were previously supposedly not ready to go cashless, now suddenly seem to be able to basically flip a switch and make it happen.

Then there's the Harris County Toll Road Authority (Houston, TX), which while most of its roads are now cashless, requires people to have a transponder/account to use any of those cashless roads - they won't do billing by plate, if you use of of these roads without an account, they will mail you a violation notice. They've long insisted that they legally can't let people just use the roads and mail them a bill after the fact because their charter prohibits them from extending lines of credit to customers (which apparently not billing them until after they've used the road is considered to count as).
Well, they've suspended cash toll collection at all locations where they still had it, and guess what they're now doing instead?


Sometimes there really is nothing quite like an emergency to get the bullshit cut through and make sensible things which should not be as difficult to accomplish as they normally are happen.

[Bruce]

What is and isn't closed in Washington per the Governor's order (took effect today statewide):

https://twitter.com/WADeptHealth/status/1239979010496630785

[bandit957]

What is and isn't closed in Washington per the Governor's order (took effect today statewide):

https://twitter.com/WADeptHealth/status/1239979010496630785

Those are Allowed Clouds!