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Are you happy with the state/province/country you live in?

Started by Roadgeekteen, September 12, 2025, 12:13:58 AM

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Rothman

Quote from: TheHighwayMan3561 on September 12, 2025, 11:49:48 PMMN: I've had the privilege to visit some cool stuff, but to move away where I couldn't go to the North Shore would devastate me. I've never found anywhere else I like better.

North Shore has been "discovered" and therefore overcrowded.  Very disappointing to me nowadays compared to when I lived up there 20-some years ago, when it was more enjoyable (still had summer crowds, but not the swarms that affect it now).

QuoteUS: No. I realize I have no place here. But because I would never be accepted anywhere else either either culturally or economically, I'm stuck. Realizing I have no place in this life has been a tough realization lately.

Our country's a pretty big, diverse place.  Not sure what aspects of your culture or economics means you're stuck in...Minnesota?  I mean, you need money to live anywhere in the world...
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.


Max Rockatansky

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I can only speak for myself but most of my problems with "places" largely dissipated once I had a significant enough income.  Seems the misgivings I had in the Midwest growing up weren't so much the environment around me but rather the fact I was too young to have actual independence.  I don't really ever recall caring all that much about finding community attachment to anywhere I've lived. 

As an example I tend to look upon Michigan much more favorably as an adult now that I can go and do what I want.  When I was younger it was way easier to point fingers at external sources I believed to be the problem rather than myself.  I guess that I got a good dose or reality once I moved to Arizona with my savings and discovered that I still had to make something for myself.  I thought that I had a vested interest in localized politics when I was younger, but long term I found it to be largely a non-factor.

vdeane

Quote from: Rothman on September 13, 2025, 02:17:49 PM
QuoteUS: No. I realize I have no place here. But because I would never be accepted anywhere else either either culturally or economically, I'm stuck. Realizing I have no place in this life has been a tough realization lately.

Our country's a pretty big, diverse place.  Not sure what aspects of your culture or economics means you're stuck in...Minnesota?  I mean, you need money to live anywhere in the world...
I imagine it has something to do with being a combination of somewhere he'd want to live and getting a visa for immigrating there.  For instance, my favorite city is Montréal, but I doubt I'll ever actually live there because Québec doesn't want anyone other than native francophones, and that's on top of the Canada-wide issue of needing to have specialized experience in certain jobs and hoping that you managed to be one of the few who get one of a limited number of visas given out each year (and honestly, this issue exists to varying extents across the entire developed world, especially in Western countries).  Plus the cost of taking language tests and the like.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Rothman

Quote from: vdeane on September 13, 2025, 05:09:30 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 13, 2025, 02:17:49 PM
QuoteUS: No. I realize I have no place here. But because I would never be accepted anywhere else either either culturally or economically, I'm stuck. Realizing I have no place in this life has been a tough realization lately.

Our country's a pretty big, diverse place.  Not sure what aspects of your culture or economics means you're stuck in...Minnesota?  I mean, you need money to live anywhere in the world...
I imagine it has something to do with being a combination of somewhere he'd want to live and getting a visa for immigrating there.  For instance, my favorite city is Montréal, but I doubt I'll ever actually live there because Québec doesn't want anyone other than native francophones, and that's on top of the Canada-wide issue of needing to have specialized experience in certain jobs and hoping that you managed to be one of the few who get one of a limited number of visas given out each year (and honestly, this issue exists to varying extents across the entire developed world, especially in Western countries).  Plus the cost of taking language tests and the like.

I was just surprised there's no where in the U.S. where they'd be "accepted."
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

kphoger

Quote from: Rothman on September 13, 2025, 06:12:33 PMI was just surprised there's no where in the U.S. where they'd be "accepted."

Unless you can prove that you won't be a financial burden on society, then most countries won't "accept" you "economically".

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
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Male pronouns, please.

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webny99

Quote from: Rothman on September 12, 2025, 07:14:37 AMThe Great State of New York lives up to its name.  The economic engine of the world in the south, Niagara Falls in the west, Adirondacks to the north, ocean beaches and barrier islands in the southeast ...

I'm glad you went first so we don't have to argue about silly stuff.  :D

Honestly, high taxes and lack of DOT funding are my two biggest issues with living in NY. While I do feel that Upstate NY would be a better off as its own state, the lack of other major issues speaks well for the state overall.

Takumi

I'm happy in central Virginia. If there's something the Richmond area doesn't have, it's probably within a couple hours drive. (Mountains, beach, bigger cities, isolation, Nando's.) My wife and I have considered moving down the line, but we want to explore other parts of the state and country first to see if there's somewhere that calls more to us.
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Don't @ me. Seriously.

kphoger

Quote from: Takumi on September 13, 2025, 08:43:50 PMI'm happy in central Virginia. If there's something the Richmond area doesn't have, it's probably within a couple hours drive. (Mountains, beach, bigger cities, isolation, Nando's.) My wife and I have considered moving down the line, but we want to explore other parts of the state and country first to see if there's somewhere that calls more to us.

My eyes just kind of skimmed over that word, and at first I thought it was Nachos.  And I thought it was strange you can't find nachos in Richmond.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

vdeane

Quote from: Rothman on September 13, 2025, 06:12:33 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 13, 2025, 05:09:30 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 13, 2025, 02:17:49 PM
QuoteUS: No. I realize I have no place here. But because I would never be accepted anywhere else either either culturally or economically, I'm stuck. Realizing I have no place in this life has been a tough realization lately.

Our country's a pretty big, diverse place.  Not sure what aspects of your culture or economics means you're stuck in...Minnesota?  I mean, you need money to live anywhere in the world...
I imagine it has something to do with being a combination of somewhere he'd want to live and getting a visa for immigrating there.  For instance, my favorite city is Montréal, but I doubt I'll ever actually live there because Québec doesn't want anyone other than native francophones, and that's on top of the Canada-wide issue of needing to have specialized experience in certain jobs and hoping that you managed to be one of the few who get one of a limited number of visas given out each year (and honestly, this issue exists to varying extents across the entire developed world, especially in Western countries).  Plus the cost of taking language tests and the like.

I was just surprised there's no where in the U.S. where they'd be "accepted."
While individual communities are probably fine, I imagine this has something to do with the federal government.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

TheHighwayMan3561

It's social, political, economic, and personal. Because some people weren't meant to exist, and I was one of them. I don't think anyone here can comprehend being fully unloved at every stage of your life as I have.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: TheHighwayMan3561 on September 13, 2025, 10:23:55 PMIt's social, political, economic, and personal. Because some people weren't meant to exist, and I was one of them. I don't think anyone here can comprehend being fully unloved at every stage of your life as I have.
I just want to let you know that I care about you and I'm sure others on the forum do as well.
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Rothman

Quote from: TheHighwayMan3561 on September 13, 2025, 10:23:55 PMIt's social, political, economic, and personal. Because some people weren't meant to exist, and I was one of them. I don't think anyone here can comprehend being fully unloved at every stage of your life as I have.

O.o

Pretty sure we were all meant to exist.  I've appreciated your input on here and wouldn't have had that if you didn't.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Scott5114

Quote from: TheHighwayMan3561 on September 13, 2025, 10:23:55 PMIt's social, political, economic, and personal. Because some people weren't meant to exist, and I was one of them. I don't think anyone here can comprehend being fully unloved at every stage of your life as I have.

I have to admit, on bad days, I see myself in this post as well. The overall culture of the United States is just...well, these days it's fucking mean, for no good reason, and I hate it. Part of what I like about Nevada is that the "anything goes" mindset the state is built on partially cancels that out, but when I read the news from other parts of the country I can't help but shake my head, reminded of the Calvin Coolidge quote "I feel I no longer fit in with these times."
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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Scott5114 on September 13, 2025, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan3561 on September 13, 2025, 10:23:55 PMIt's social, political, economic, and personal. Because some people weren't meant to exist, and I was one of them. I don't think anyone here can comprehend being fully unloved at every stage of your life as I have.

I have to admit, on bad days, I see myself in this post as well. The overall culture of the United States is just...well, these days it's fucking mean, for no good reason, and I hate it. Part of what I like about Nevada is that the "anything goes" mindset the state is built on partially cancels that out, but when I read the news from other parts of the country I can't help but shake my head, reminded of the Calvin Coolidge quote "I feel I no longer fit in with these times."
blame social media for radicalizing people.
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Scott5114

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 13, 2025, 11:11:28 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 13, 2025, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan3561 on September 13, 2025, 10:23:55 PMIt's social, political, economic, and personal. Because some people weren't meant to exist, and I was one of them. I don't think anyone here can comprehend being fully unloved at every stage of your life as I have.

I have to admit, on bad days, I see myself in this post as well. The overall culture of the United States is just...well, these days it's fucking mean, for no good reason, and I hate it. Part of what I like about Nevada is that the "anything goes" mindset the state is built on partially cancels that out, but when I read the news from other parts of the country I can't help but shake my head, reminded of the Calvin Coolidge quote "I feel I no longer fit in with these times."
blame social media for radicalizing people.

That's not all of it, though, since it extends to people who have never had a social media account in their lives. I would agree with the idea that social media made a subset of the population start to act awful, and then other people who were inclined to be awful saw that as giving them permission to be awful, and then it snowballed.

Or, put another way, my dad has always been an asshole who wants people who disagree with him to die. He used to be a weird outlier without many friends cause of it. Now he's just normal.
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Max Rockatansky

Social media just gives angry and angsty people a platform.  People have always acted this bad; it just wasn't until recently until your average Joe could show the entire world at a whim.

kkt

There's always been a pretty nasty undercurrent in the United States:  the John Birch Society, the Klan, the McCarthy red scares.  But social media makes it more visible.

achilles765



This tends to surprise and shock a lot of people when I say this, given that I'm very much a center-left gay man married to someone who is half Mexican and who thinks a Buttigieg/sanders or Buttigieg/AOC presidential administration would be one of the best things to happen to this country in decades, but yes I actually really like living in Texas. Maybe that's because I'm in relatively blue, incredibly diverse Houston—I may feel differently if I lived in one of those backwoods country towns but my experience over the last 17 years of living here has been nothing but positive.

We get a lot of bad press, become the butt of jokes and are portrayed as being a state full of insane ultra right wing nuts who all own twelve guns each and love executing mentally handicapped people, but the reality is much more grey and nuanced.

Sure, the gun thing is kind of true. Even most left leaning democrats here have guns. I have three. But even the most staunch republican Christian actually cares very little about whether the next door neighbors are gay or undocumented or Hindus. There is still a strong belief in personal freedom and letting people make their own decisions and staying out of peoples business. Unfortunately the people who are most likely to vote are not those people and they vote for people like our current leaders who are trying to turn us into a Christian nationalist utopia. But that's largely due to the efforts of exactly two billionaire oil barons from out in west Texas.

The reality of living somewhere like Houston is that it's still very affordable. Traffic is bad and  I do hate our summers. Like. I HATE summer. And I hate the giant cockroaches that are everywhere. But the people here are and always have been some of the kindest, most welcoming, most open and respectful people I've ever met in any of the places I've lived or visited. And I've been all up and down the east coast, been to LA and San Diego. I grew up in Mississippi/Louisiana in a rural area and I Hated that.

Houston is also an incredibly diverse city. And unlike many other "diverse" cities where there are many different groups, but they all segregate into their own neighborhoods and don't generally mingle, in Houston everyone kind of mixes together. You can see this very clearly if you got to eat in any restaurant in Houston. You'll see sitting at the same table, dining together, laughing and enjoying each other's company a group that may contain a Muslim woman and a hijab, a gay man, a black man and a white woman. You'll see many couples of mixed race/ethnicity. Every group also brings some aspect of their culture and traditions to the city in some way. We have a ton of halal food trucks and stores. Little Mexican grocery stores are all over the place. Especially in my neighborhood which is a predominantly Mexican American neighborhood. 

There's also a pretty high quality of life in general. I'm far from wealthy. I'm a professional bartender. I make probably about $50-$53,000 a year. My husband makes about $30,000. We are able to live quite comfortably. Part of that is that we got incredibly lucky with the house that we rent. Our rent is stupid, cheap even though we have a house with a pretty big backyard. But even friends and coworkers of mine who live in the more trendy expensive neighborhoods like Montrose and Midtown are able to comfortably afford their rent and other expenses while still having active social lives.

Would I ever move?  Yes probably. If the political situation becomes too far right or it starts to spread more into Houston—. And as much as I love it here it would be nice to have a change of scenery and experience a new place. I would love to live somewhere where it's not as hot. I'd love to live in a mountainous area. It's cliche but I think I'd like Denver or Salt Lake City. Or the Pacific Northwest if we could afford it.

But if that never happens I won't be unhappy for Houston to be my permanent home.
I love freeways and roads in any state but Texas will always be first in my heart