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Re: Delaware
« Reply #1300 on: March 17, 2019, 06:57:57 AM »

Would this prove the fact that they will continue the 404 Eastward ?
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378


It proves they studied it and proposed improvements.   Until they've put it out to bid and a bid has been approved, it doesn't prove that they will actually build and/or continue it.
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« Reply #1301 on: March 17, 2019, 11:40:25 AM »

Would this prove the fact that they will continue the 404 Eastward ?
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378

Also this has some more information regarding U.S. 113
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1365700&iProjectObjectID=48378

It's an intersection improvements project that was part of the US 113 Study, it isn't related to any potential corridor-wide improvements for DE 404.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #1302 on: March 17, 2019, 12:45:06 PM »

Would this prove the fact that they will continue the 404 Eastward ?
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378

Also this has some more information regarding U.S. 113
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1365700&iProjectObjectID=48378

It's an intersection improvements project that was part of the US 113 Study, it isn't related to any potential corridor-wide improvements for DE 404.
Yes I know, but if they are making it grade separated, then it has a chance to be built out later on


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Re: Delaware
« Reply #1303 on: March 17, 2019, 12:45:48 PM »

Would this prove the fact that they will continue the 404 Eastward ?
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378


It proves they studied it and proposed improvements.   Until they've put it out to bid and a bid has been approved, it doesn't prove that they will actually build and/or continue it.
Ok, it looks pretty detailed like they are gonna do it.


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Re: Delaware
« Reply #1304 on: March 17, 2019, 01:25:05 PM »

Would this prove the fact that they will continue the 404 Eastward ?
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378

Also this has some more information regarding U.S. 113
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1365700&iProjectObjectID=48378

It's an intersection improvements project that was part of the US 113 Study, it isn't related to any potential corridor-wide improvements for DE 404.
Yes I know, but if they are making it grade separated, then it has a chance to be built out later on


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Not really, the grade separation proposed favors US 113 traffic over DE 404 traffic and does not address the fact that DE 404 immediately enters downtown Georgetown and narrows down. If DE 404 were to be dualized there would likely have to be significant new construction to get around the core of Georgetown which is not being studied, let alone being proposed. This project is not a step towards a dualized DE 404.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #1305 on: March 17, 2019, 01:32:08 PM »

Not really, the grade separation proposed favors US 113 traffic over DE 404 traffic and does not address the fact that DE 404 immediately enters downtown Georgetown and narrows down. If DE 404 were to be dualized there would likely have to be significant new construction to get around the core of Georgetown which is not being studied, let alone being proposed. This project is not a step towards a dualized DE 404.

DE-404 would have a northern bypass of Georgetown in a 4-lane DE-404 corridor, that would be my prediction.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #1306 on: March 17, 2019, 01:38:02 PM »

Would this prove the fact that they will continue the 404 Eastward ?
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378

Also this has some more information regarding U.S. 113
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1365700&iProjectObjectID=48378

It's an intersection improvements project that was part of the US 113 Study, it isn't related to any potential corridor-wide improvements for DE 404.
Yes I know, but if they are making it grade separated, then it has a chance to be built out later on


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Not really, the grade separation proposed favors US 113 traffic over DE 404 traffic and does not address the fact that DE 404 immediately enters downtown Georgetown and narrows down. If DE 404 were to be dualized there would likely have to be significant new construction to get around the core of Georgetown which is not being studied, let alone being proposed. This project is not a step towards a dualized DE 404.
Not really, the grade separation proposed favors US 113 traffic over DE 404 traffic and does not address the fact that DE 404 immediately enters downtown Georgetown and narrows down. If DE 404 were to be dualized there would likely have to be significant new construction to get around the core of Georgetown which is not being studied, let alone being proposed. This project is not a step towards a dualized DE 404.

DE-404 would have a northern bypass of Georgetown in a 4-lane DE-404 corridor, that would be my prediction.
Agreed, this interchange improvement is mainly favors US-113 traffic as it's apart of the overall corridor improvements for the U.S. 113 corridor to eliminate a traffic signal. It does benefit DE-404 slightly, as it results in more green time not having to wait for US-113 cross traffic, but any large improvement to DE-404 would likely be either a northern bypass, or a southern bypass tying into the existing US-9 bypass. Whatever is chosen is dependent on how important DE-404 is. If the goal is to provide a 4-lane divided highway or freeway, then a northern bypass would be the best answer. If it's just simply a road to deter DE-404 traffic away from downtown, tying into the US 9 bypass could also work.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #1307 on: March 25, 2019, 06:47:16 AM »

Happy Spring, can y’all guess these locations

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5. (Easy Giveaway)

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« Reply #1308 on: March 25, 2019, 07:00:00 AM »

Happy Spring, can y’all guess these locations

St. Georges old highway lift bridge over C&D Canal, and US-13 high level bridge under construction.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #1309 on: March 28, 2019, 10:49:21 PM »

Newport had a train station!?


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Re: Delaware
« Reply #1310 on: March 29, 2019, 08:21:04 AM »

Newport had a train station!?


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What's even sadder...this is the Wikipedia webpage for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_Railroad_Station .  You would think *someone* would have enough interest in it to talk about it a bit more.
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« Reply #1311 on: March 31, 2019, 02:56:39 PM »

They have released the plans for the I-95 improvements, its good that they are trying to fix Wilmington, too bad they couldn’t add the roof over 95 in the plans.

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« Reply #1312 on: March 31, 2019, 07:02:01 PM »

At least they have I-495 as a viable detour route. Guess they won't close the whole highway like they did in the 90's rehab that section again.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #1313 on: April 03, 2019, 01:20:41 AM »

For those of you from Delaware, the Public Archives are having a presentation on the history of DelDOT this Saturday morning: https://archives.delaware.gov/2019/03/28/celebrating-the-history-of-the-delaware-department-of-transportation/

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« Reply #1314 on: April 13, 2019, 04:44:28 PM »

I moved the ipeters 61 post on renumbering Delaware State Routes to Fictional Highways.   -Mark

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=24850.0
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #1315 on: April 16, 2019, 08:55:57 PM »

Meanwhile, on the DE 1 approach to the Delaware beach zone...

https://www.capegazette.com/article/deldot-set-fast-track-cave-neck-overpass/177921

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Re: Delaware
« Reply #1316 on: April 16, 2019, 08:58:18 PM »

Meanwhile, on the DE 1 approach to the Delaware beach zone...

https://www.capegazette.com/article/deldot-set-fast-track-cave-neck-overpass/177921

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Amazing, would the increase in traffic & economy growth in Delaware & surrounding areas be the cause to finally fix these problems? Is Delaware finally realizing they need atleast 1 “Real Hwy” inorder to make the state run correctly. Hmm we will find out in the next episode of “AA FORUMS”.


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Re: Delaware
« Reply #1317 on: April 17, 2019, 05:30:12 PM »

Delaware has had several interchange and access consolidation projects planned along DE 1 for years...I believe they called it the "Route 1 Capacity Preservation Plan" or something along those lines 15 years ago.  They're building them as funding allows.

You need to learn to be a bit less dramatic and stop thinking that DelDOT is only now responding to recent trends.  They've been a lot more proactive on DE 1 than you're suggesting.
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« Reply #1318 on: April 17, 2019, 07:07:16 PM »

Delaware has had several interchange and access consolidation projects planned along DE 1 for years...I believe they called it the "Route 1 Capacity Preservation Plan" or something along those lines 15 years ago.  They're building them as funding allows.

You need to learn to be a bit less dramatic and stop thinking that DelDOT is only now responding to recent trends.  They've been a lot more proactive on DE 1 than you're suggesting.
Not dramatic, I just care. From looking at plans & researching Delaware things, they only do anything based on money, yes everyone does because the world runs on money, but why wait on handouts when you can possibly find a way to fund the things you need.


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« Reply #1319 on: April 17, 2019, 09:26:45 PM »

You need to learn to be a bit less dramatic
How about just ignoring his dramatic responses? It's not hurting you.
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« Reply #1320 on: April 17, 2019, 09:55:44 PM »

Delaware has had several interchange and access consolidation projects planned along DE 1 for years...I believe they called it the "Route 1 Capacity Preservation Plan" or something along those lines 15 years ago.  They're building them as funding allows.

You need to learn to be a bit less dramatic and stop thinking that DelDOT is only now responding to recent trends.  They've been a lot more proactive on DE 1 than you're suggesting.

Seconded, it's kinda frustrating checking this topic for interesting information only for it to be filled with replies acting like this state is stuck in the stone age because it hasn't built out its entire Capital Transportation Plan along with every project that WILMAPCO has proposed.

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but why wait on handouts when you can possibly find a way to fund the things you need.

Because there isn't a way to build these projects on your time frame in a financially responsible manner. If there were a way they would have done it by now, it's not like DelDOT is trying to delay projects intentionally just to spite the population.
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« Reply #1321 on: April 17, 2019, 10:27:22 PM »

My comments are always up to change, its common sense & debating. We all have opinions don’t we?

I believe it’s great when we all talk about a subject for a good amount of time. Its really proactive. Almost like reading a book whilst drinking a frosty cup of lemonade on a hot summer day, but your under a roofed porch so the wind blows a cool breeze. IMHO.

I’ll say it again I love this forum & everyone in/on it. The best thing since they built cars for roads.




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« Reply #1322 on: April 17, 2019, 10:32:15 PM »

Delaware has had several interchange and access consolidation projects planned along DE 1 for years...I believe they called it the "Route 1 Capacity Preservation Plan" or something along those lines 15 years ago.  They're building them as funding allows.

You need to learn to be a bit less dramatic and stop thinking that DelDOT is only now responding to recent trends.  They've been a lot more proactive on DE 1 than you're suggesting.

Seconded, it's kinda frustrating checking this topic for interesting information only for it to be filled with replies acting like this state is stuck in the stone age because it hasn't built out its entire Capital Transportation Plan along with every project that WILMAPCO has proposed.

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but why wait on handouts when you can possibly find a way to fund the things you need.

Because there isn't a way to build these projects on your time frame in a financially responsible manner. If there were a way they would have done it by now, it's not like DelDOT is trying to delay projects intentionally just to spite the population.
I guess you’re right. It’s not like building infrastructure brings growth to places. I guess I shouldn’t invest in my business. Investing is badddd.

No they do not delay projects to spite people, there are multiple reasons. Nimbys stopping or delaying projects, funds not allocated, other more important projects & many other reasons. But I thought everyone already knew that.

I just believe things should just be finished & over with so you’re not dragging it out for decades.


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Re: Delaware
« Reply #1323 on: April 18, 2019, 08:09:10 AM »

Does DE 1 need all those overpasses between the Lincoln exit and Nassau?  Did they need them 15 years ago?  Does shoulder season and winter time traffic on DE 1 warrant them?

And what about the safety of those attempting to access residences and businesses?

https://www.capegazette.com/article/letter-route-1-16-crossover-will-cause-big-problems/178114

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Without any break in traffic flowing south from Route 16, travelers, including cars, school buses, trucks and motorcycles, will have to make dangerous attempts to cross over in front of nonstop traffic heading south at any of the 12 crossovers that exist on Route 1 in this area. There are several businesses that depend on this access, and access to residential roads, existing on either side of Route 1 here in Milton, Nassau and Lewes.

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I've been caught at the light at DE 1 and 16 a few times and it's never bothered me as much as the megalight at 1 and 9/404.

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« Reply #1324 on: April 18, 2019, 10:43:43 AM »

Does DE 1 need all those overpasses between the Lincoln exit and Nassau?  Did they need them 15 years ago?  Does shoulder season and winter time traffic on DE 1 warrant them?

And what about the safety of those attempting to access residences and businesses?

https://www.capegazette.com/article/letter-route-1-16-crossover-will-cause-big-problems/178114

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Without any break in traffic flowing south from Route 16, travelers, including cars, school buses, trucks and motorcycles, will have to make dangerous attempts to cross over in front of nonstop traffic heading south at any of the 12 crossovers that exist on Route 1 in this area. There are several businesses that depend on this access, and access to residential roads, existing on either side of Route 1 here in Milton, Nassau and Lewes.

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I've been caught at the light at DE 1 and 16 a few times and it's never bothered me as much as the megalight at 1 and 9/404.

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Did I read that correctly? Im trying to understand how an overpass creates a dangerous situation for people to get to the other side.

When you make a overpass you have a safer way to cross because its taking you under 4 lanes of highway traffic & it safer for local traffic because they dont have to deal with highway traffic. I feel like people just dont wanna deal with highway construction or looking at it when its done IMHO.

12 cross overs are dangerous & as time goes on they should be eliminated. Also the comments on the post show residents are confused & 1 person sees the reason for it to be done.


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