Most iconic feature of each state

Started by Flint1979, April 11, 2020, 09:48:56 PM

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Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 13, 2020, 02:10:42 PM
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Lambeau Field for Wisconsin?

Mike
Nah it's a football stadium nothing unique about it. I would say either House on the Rock or the rock formations in the dells are far more iconic.
Yeah, but it's a very special football stadium.


I'm not going with House on the Rock, but Lambeau Field I'm not sure is a great one either.  (I live in GB and am a Packer fan too.)

I would say Wisconsin Dells in general is the most iconic feature.  (Though I prefer the Apostle Islands.)

Oh yeah, I forgot that the House on the Rock existed.
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Quote from: 1995hoo on April 14, 2020, 08:21:30 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 13, 2020, 08:30:08 PM
That's about the most East Coast thing ever to say; "Wyoming has absolutely nothing."   Even western Wyoming has part of the Black Hills. 

I read something once, I believe in a National Geographic publication, about someone from Wyoming proposing it be nicknamed the "Leftover State." The idea was something along the lines of it being an area the farmers on the Great Plains couldn't till, the skiers in Colorado couldn't ski, the Mormons in Utah didn't want, etc., and you had this "leftover" rectangle that became Wyoming.
Is the soil not as good to farm on in Wyoming?
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SEWIGuy

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 14, 2020, 09:24:55 AM
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 13, 2020, 08:30:08 PM
That's about the most East Coast thing ever to say; "Wyoming has absolutely nothing."   Even western Wyoming has part of the Black Hills. 

I read something once, I believe in a National Geographic publication, about someone from Wyoming proposing it be nicknamed the "Leftover State." The idea was something along the lines of it being an area the farmers on the Great Plains couldn't till, the skiers in Colorado couldn't ski, the Mormons in Utah didn't want, etc., and you had this "leftover" rectangle that became Wyoming.
Is the soil not as good to farm on in Wyoming?


It's the high plains.  Very dry.

mgk920

Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 14, 2020, 11:49:52 AM
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That's about the most East Coast thing ever to say; "Wyoming has absolutely nothing."   Even western Wyoming has part of the Black Hills. 

I read something once, I believe in a National Geographic publication, about someone from Wyoming proposing it be nicknamed the "Leftover State." The idea was something along the lines of it being an area the farmers on the Great Plains couldn't till, the skiers in Colorado couldn't ski, the Mormons in Utah didn't want, etc., and you had this "leftover" rectangle that became Wyoming.
Is the soil not as good to farm on in Wyoming?


It's the high plains.  Very dry.

And much of what is useful for farming, mainly open range style cattle ranching, is marginal for that at best.

Coal mining was pretty big in Wyoming in the post WWII era to the early 21st century, too.

Mike

Max Rockatansky

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That's about the most East Coast thing ever to say; "Wyoming has absolutely nothing."   Even western Wyoming has part of the Black Hills. 

I read something once, I believe in a National Geographic publication, about someone from Wyoming proposing it be nicknamed the "Leftover State." The idea was something along the lines of it being an area the farmers on the Great Plains couldn't till, the skiers in Colorado couldn't ski, the Mormons in Utah didn't want, etc., and you had this "leftover" rectangle that became Wyoming.
Is the soil not as good to farm on in Wyoming?


It's the high plains.  Very dry.

And much of what is useful for farming, mainly open range style cattle ranching, is marginal for that at best.

Coal mining was pretty big in Wyoming in the post WWII era to the early 21st century, too.

Mike

I've always found that ranchers and farmers don't exactly like to be confused with each other.  Basically Wyoming is pretty devoid of natural resources aside from scenery.   I don't even recall many precious metal claims or much of anything of note that many would consider a worthwhile ghost town visit.  Montana at least had a fairly substantial mining boom in it's mountain regions. 

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Quote from: Rothman on April 14, 2020, 07:15:18 AM
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Nebraska: ?
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The only major and recognizable icon in that list is Chimney Rock.  Scotts Bluff is a distant second (people have heard of it, but don't know what it looks like).
The Strategic Air Command (SAC) is pretty important and is well known around the world.

It was established in 1946, its headquarters was at Offutt Air Force Base, near Omaha, Nebraska; and was disestablished in 1992.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Air_Command

In 1992, as part of an overall post-Cold War reorganization of the U.S. Air Force, SAC was disestablished as both a Specified Command and as a MAJCOM, and its personnel and equipment redistributed among the Air Combat Command (ACC), Air Mobility Command (AMC), Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), United States Air Forces in Europe (USAFE), and Air Education and Training Command (AETC), while SAC's central headquarters complex at Offutt AFB, Nebraska was concurrently transferred to the newly created United States Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM), which was established as a joint Unified Combatant Command to replace SAC's Specified Command role.
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 14, 2020, 12:20:37 PM
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 13, 2020, 08:30:08 PM
That’s about the most East Coast thing ever to say; “Wyoming has absolutely nothing.”  Even western Wyoming has part of the Black Hills. 

I read something once, I believe in a National Geographic publication, about someone from Wyoming proposing it be nicknamed the "Leftover State." The idea was something along the lines of it being an area the farmers on the Great Plains couldn't till, the skiers in Colorado couldn't ski, the Mormons in Utah didn't want, etc., and you had this "leftover" rectangle that became Wyoming.
Is the soil not as good to farm on in Wyoming?


It's the high plains.  Very dry.

And much of what is useful for farming, mainly open range style cattle ranching, is marginal for that at best.

Coal mining was pretty big in Wyoming in the post WWII era to the early 21st century, too.

Mike

I’ve always found that ranchers and farmers don’t exactly like to be confused with each other.  Basically Wyoming is pretty devoid of natural resources aside from scenery.   I don’t even recall many precious metal claims or much of anything of note that many would consider a worthwhile ghost town visit.  Montana at least had a fairly substantial mining boom in it’s mountain regions.

There's a hell of a lot of coal mining going on even today in northeastern Wyoming. Here's a map of freight movements across the US:



Note the very high volumes being moved from northeastern Wyoming by rail - that's all coal.

Max Rockatansky

What I always found interesting about the Black Hills Gold Rush that it pretty much was bound to the South Dakota side...or at least the major parts.  If I remember correctly coal deposits on the Wyoming side of the Black Hills was what prospectors largely discovered as an outgrowth of what was going on in South Dakota. 

sbeaver44

Quote from: J3ebrules on April 13, 2020, 11:47:24 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 13, 2020, 08:30:08 PM
That's about the most East Coast thing ever to say; "Wyoming has absolutely nothing."   Even western Wyoming has part of the Black Hills.

Hahaha I knowwww. I was being stereotypical, and inspired by the movie "Cannibal! The Musical"  (Look up "cannibal musical Wyoming"  on youtube if you've never seen it). And to be fair, it IS the least populous US state.

I'd actually love to go - I have a ton of pictures of Yellowstone, Grand Teton, Old Faithful, etc from my grandparents' trip in the 70's, and I would love to recreate their path through the state. Realized I even started sorting them, so here's a shot of Devil's Tower in WY, apropos of nothing:



Devil's Tower was the only reason we dipped into WY from our Rushmore trip

Thank you Close Encounters of The Third Kind!

jakeroot

I would absolutely nominate Devils Tower for Wyoming. Seems incredibly obvious, now that I remember which state it's in. I've been through the area once but got a little confused about where I was :-D. Part of me was damn sure it was in South Dakota. Yes I'm an idiot.

webny99

Quote from: jakeroot on April 14, 2020, 07:19:45 PM
I would absolutely nominate Devils Tower for Wyoming. Seems incredibly obvious, now that I remember which state it's in. I've been through the area once but got a little confused about where I was :-D. Part of me was damn sure it was in South Dakota. Yes I'm an idiot.

It's just 45 minutes from the South Dakota border, and, I assume, often visited in conjunction with SD attractions such as Mount Rushmore and the Black Hills. In our case, we didn't have time to make it out to Devils Tower, which I will always remember quite clearly, as that would have given me my first visit to Wyoming (which I'm still awaiting...).

But I totally get that if it was part of a larger trip, it's easy to forget exactly what's where and the sequence of what was visited when.

Rothman

Quote from: Beltway on April 14, 2020, 12:32:24 PM
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Nebraska: ?
https://sacmuseum.org/
33 aircraft
The only major and recognizable icon in that list is Chimney Rock.  Scotts Bluff is a distant second (people have heard of it, but don't know what it looks like).
The Strategic Air Command (SAC) is pretty important and is well known around the world.

It was established in 1946, its headquarters was at Offutt Air Force Base, near Omaha, Nebraska; and was disestablished in 1992.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Air_Command

In 1992, as part of an overall post-Cold War reorganization of the U.S. Air Force, SAC was disestablished as both a Specified Command and as a MAJCOM, and its personnel and equipment redistributed among the Air Combat Command (ACC), Air Mobility Command (AMC), Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), United States Air Forces in Europe (USAFE), and Air Education and Training Command (AETC), while SAC's central headquarters complex at Offutt AFB, Nebraska was concurrently transferred to the newly created United States Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM), which was established as a joint Unified Combatant Command to replace SAC's Specified Command role.
Known, but not iconic.
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jakeroot

Quote from: webny99 on April 14, 2020, 11:28:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 14, 2020, 07:19:45 PM
I would absolutely nominate Devils Tower for Wyoming. Seems incredibly obvious, now that I remember which state it's in. I've been through the area once but got a little confused about where I was :-D. Part of me was damn sure it was in South Dakota. Yes I'm an idiot.

It's just 45 minutes from the South Dakota border, and, I assume, often visited in conjunction with SD attractions such as Mount Rushmore and the Black Hills. In our case, we didn't have time to make it out to Devils Tower, which I will always remember quite clearly, as that would have given me my first visit to Wyoming (which I'm still awaiting...).

But I totally get that if it was part of a larger trip, it's easy to forget exactly what's where and the sequence of what was visited when.

Definitely a "gotta do this too" type of attraction. We spent the night in Hulett (northeast of Devils Tower) as part of the journey, and saw the actual tower, Deadwood, Mt Rushmore, and Crazy Horse the following day. We ended up back in Wyoming that night, staying in Casper before heading off to SLC. I think it was having most of the day spent in South Dakota that caused me to confuse the states.

We got wicked close to Nebraska on that trip, so I know the pain. Who the hell knows when I'll be back around there again.

CNGL-Leudimin

Quote from: jakeroot on April 14, 2020, 07:19:45 PM
I would absolutely nominate Devils Tower for Wyoming. Seems incredibly obvious, now that I remember which state it's in. I've been through the area once but got a little confused about where I was :-D. Part of me was damn sure it was in South Dakota. Yes I'm an idiot.

I thought that thing was in Montana instead :-D. But at least I was not sure, so I didn't include it in my list.
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Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on April 15, 2020, 04:04:50 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 14, 2020, 07:19:45 PM
I would absolutely nominate Devils Tower for Wyoming. Seems incredibly obvious, now that I remember which state it's in. I've been through the area once but got a little confused about where I was :-D. Part of me was damn sure it was in South Dakota. Yes I'm an idiot.

I thought that thing was in Montana instead :-D. But at least I was not sure, so I didn't include it in my list.

Montana does have Pompeys Pillae, which has a vague resemblance to Devil's Tower but isn't as impressive or famous. That might be why.

Beltway

Quote from: Rothman on April 15, 2020, 12:54:17 AM
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Nebraska: ?
https://sacmuseum.org/  33 aircraft
The only major and recognizable icon in that list is Chimney Rock.  Scotts Bluff is a distant second (people have heard of it, but don't know what it looks like).
The Strategic Air Command (SAC) is pretty important and is well known around the world.  It was established in 1946, its headquarters was at Offutt Air Force Base, near Omaha, Nebraska; and was disestablished in 1992.
Known, but not iconic.
Granted that SAC was a system and not just one object or site.  Plus it depends on the definition of "iconic."

Is the U.S. Air Force Museum at Dayton, Ohio iconic?
https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/

I have been there several times and it is incredible place.
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sprjus4

Quote from: Rothman on April 15, 2020, 11:11:35 PM
No.
I'd say it's quite iconic, it's well known to many people, including myself. I've never been there, but I'm familiar with the fact it's there in Dayton.

Rothman

Quote from: sprjus4 on April 16, 2020, 01:13:59 AM
Quote from: Rothman on April 15, 2020, 11:11:35 PM
No.
I'd say it's quite iconic, it's well known to many people, including myself. I've never been there, but I'm familiar with the fact it's there in Dayton.

I've been there.  I still say no.  I don't think it's a landmark on the level of iconic.  Icons are the Grand Canyon, the Mormon Temple in Utah, the Corn Palace, the Gateway Arch.

The U.S. Air Force Museum does not rise to that kind of level.

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webny99

Quote from: Rothman on April 16, 2020, 08:12:46 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on April 16, 2020, 01:13:59 AM
Quote from: Rothman on April 15, 2020, 11:11:35 PM
No.
I'd say it's quite iconic, it's well known to many people, including myself. I've never been there, but I'm familiar with the fact it's there in Dayton.
I've been there.  I still say no.  I don't think it's a landmark on the level of iconic.  Icons are the Grand Canyon, the Mormon Temple in Utah, the Corn Palace, the Gateway Arch.

The U.S. Air Force Museum does not rise to that kind of level.

That doesn't make the Air Force Museum less noteworthy than any of those places.
But you're right, it's not symbolic or representative of Dayton, or the state of Ohio as a whole. It's man-made (as opposed to part of creation, like the Grand Canyon) and it could be located anywhere else in the country and still have the exact same purpose and meaning. What it stands for is not specific to Dayton, Ohio by any stretch of the imagination, and IMO that is why it doesn't qualify as iconic.

1995hoo

I've been to the Air Force Museum in Dayton (my wife grew up in Dayton) and I don't think anyone regards it as iconic, even as a symbol of the city (much less the state as a whole). A major attraction in Dayton? Sure. Iconic? No. From what my wife and her brother have said, local residents there seem to regard Carillon Park as more "iconic" as to the city itself. Aside from the bell tower for which the park is named, the park has a lot of history exhibits about the Dayton area and the Wright Brothers (who were from Dayton), including their restored 1905 aircraft from two years after the first flight. But the park is not at all an iconic feature as to the state as a whole.
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There are military installations that are iconic. West Point Academy is iconic. Everyone knows about it; it's famous in its own right.
But these museums and such you guys are talking about? Not particularly.
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Rothman

Quote from: J3ebrules on April 16, 2020, 10:30:00 AM
There are military installations that are iconic. West Point Academy is iconic. Everyone knows about it; it's famous in its own right.
But these museums and such you guys are talking about? Not particularly.
But in NY, you have much more iconic locations than West Point (and even then, I don't know how many people could pick out the silhouette of the "castle").
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hbelkins

I think the Pro Football HOF in Canton is pretty iconic for Ohio.
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