Routes That Intersect out of Configuration

[sprjus4]

Here's an oddity.

At the Bowers Hill Interchange (I-64 / I-264 / I-664) at the eastern terminus of I-64 in Chesapeake, VA, both I-64 and I-264 head eastward out of the interchange both towards Virginia Beach, with I-264 taking a central direct path through Downtown Norfolk and Portsmouth, with I-64 bypassing the area to the south, though I-64 is signed as "West" whereas I-264 is signed as "East" heading towards Va Beach despite both heading east.

The reason for this is ultimately because I-64 turns back westward in Virginia Beach towards the HRBT, the Peninsula, and onto Richmond and west, whereas I-264 is heading due east without any 180s.

[jmacswimmer]

There are many examples of this in Upstate South Carolina:

I-85 and I-26
I-26 and US 29
I-85 and SC 14
I-85 and SC 20
I-26 and SC 11

And no doubt many more...

Two others I can think of involving I-26:

I-26 & I-77
I-26 & US 17

(Makes sense there'd be a lot of I-26 examples, being the diagonal route it is)

[Henry]

I-17 and I-10 do this east of downtown Phoenix, where I-17 north runs west from the interchange, and I-10 west continues north towards the airport. At least when they meet again a few miles later, they are in their correct positions.

I-40 in eastern NC has three examples of this, given its north-south positioning: at I-85, Future I-87 and I-95. In all three cases, their northbound directions actually run eastbound, and southbound actually goes westbound.

If future and cancelled routes count, then in addition to I-40/I-87, I also cite two once-planned I-95 junctions in Baltimore. From the southern I-695 junction until it reaches the Fort McHenry toll plaza, I-95 runs in an east-west fashion; where I-70 was to meet I-95, it would've gone north-south, with westbound actually heading north. At another cancelled I-95 exit, I-83 would've ended there while running east-west, with northbound actually going west; I-95 northbound turns east almost immediately after passing through it. In New Orleans, I-10/Future I-49 is another example, where I-10 eastbound turns north and I-49 will start out going east before quickly turning south and then west, all while carrying the northbound direction, similar to the I-64 situation.

[ethanhopkin14]

I-17 and I-10 do this east of downtown Phoenix, where I-17 north runs west from the interchange, and I-10 west continues north towards the airport. At least when they meet again a few miles later, they are in their correct positions.

I-40 in eastern NC has three examples of this, given its north-south positioning: at I-85, Future I-87 and I-95. In all three cases, their northbound directions actually run eastbound, and southbound actually goes westbound.

If future and cancelled routes count, then in addition to I-40/I-87, I also cite two once-planned I-95 junctions in Baltimore. From the southern I-695 junction until it reaches the Fort McHenry toll plaza, I-95 runs in an east-west fashion; where I-70 was to meet I-95, it would've gone north-south, with westbound actually heading north. At another cancelled I-95 exit, I-83 would've ended there while running east-west, with northbound actually going west; I-95 northbound turns east almost immediately after passing through it. In New Orleans, I-10/Future I-49 is another example, where I-10 eastbound turns north and I-49 will start out going east before quickly turning south and then west, all while carrying the northbound direction, similar to the I-64 situation.

Hahaha!  I have thought about that one a lot.  I-49 will start at its "southern" terminus actually heading southeast, while the intent of that leg is to head west/northwest, but the cardinal direction will read NORTH!  Not confusing.  You head on eastbound I-10, while actually heading south to merge onto northbound I-49 while sill heading south!!

[amroad17]

Another Hampton Roads example: VA 337 (Hampton Blvd)/VA 165 (Little Creek Road).  VA 337 (E-W) goes N-S through the intersection while VA 165 (N-S) heads east from the intersection.

[I-55]

I-65 and I-24's southern split, I-65 heads west and I-24 exits to the south.

[sprjus4]

Another Hampton Roads example: VA 337 (Hampton Blvd)/VA 165 (Little Creek Road).  VA 337 (E-W) goes N-S through the intersection while VA 165 (N-S) heads east from the intersection.

VA-165 is just a convoluted route in general.

[DandyDan]

The one I found in Minnesota is the east end of MN 19 in Red Wing. MN 19 is going north into US 61, which is basically an east-west route there.

[amroad17]

Another Hampton Roads example: VA 337 (Hampton Blvd)/VA 165 (Little Creek Road).  VA 337 (E-W) goes N-S through the intersection while VA 165 (N-S) heads east from the intersection.

VA-165 is just a convoluted route in general.

Yes, not a route one would drive from "end to end" (Froggie/Mapmikey said that in the comments section of the VA 165 description).  VA 165 should be routed from Princess Anne CH to Hampton Blvd and VA 149 should cover VA 165's routing from Princess Anne CH to Deep Creek.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

The one I found in Minnesota is the east end of MN 19 in Red Wing. MN 19 is going north into US 61, which is basically an east-west route there.

Yeah, that's about it. I had found that one but got too busy to post it.

One that might possibly pop up in some local parlance is MN 1/MN 61. MN 1 more or less travels N-S from Ely to 61 while signed E-W, and 61 travels WSW-ENE. I read one source saying locals along the North Shore refer to 61 as east/west even though it's not signed that way, but I have never once heard that used in practice in any of my considerable time spent here.

[Flint1979]

If I am properly understanding the question...

Dan Ryan (I-90/94) at Stevenson (I-55) Expressways in Chicago

I-55 is much more E-W and I-90/94 is much more N-S at their junction

Much more?  I-90/I-94 in that area is the most north-south highway in the system.

Lake Shore Drive/US 41 is at least signed North-South. Granted, it is not Freeway the whole way and also has Truck Restrictions, and its only direct connection to the Interstate system is I-55

I figured this out as a kid years ago, but it makes perfect sense why Traffic Reports refer to the Chicago Radial Expressway route directions as "Inbound"  and "Outbound"  due to the mental gymnastics one has to do, with E-W signed routes going N-S and N-S signed routes going E-W

At least I-55's immediate predecessor, US 66, was signed E-W.

I will not call for a fictional renumbering in this thread

I don't think it should be renumbered just because Lake Michigan is in the way and that is part of the route that is being routed around the lake. If it went straight east from Milwaukee it would, A) Miss Chicago completely and B) Probably use I-96's routing in Michigan. I-94 at least corrects itself in both directions.

[webny99]

The one I found in Minnesota is the east end of MN 19 in Red Wing. MN 19 is going north into US 61, which is basically an east-west route there.

Yeah, that's about it. I had found that one but got too busy to post it.

What about the US 61/US 63 situation in Red Wing? That always struck me as odd the way US 63 does a U-turn off the bridge to meet US 61.  (I'm not sure if that technically qualifies for this thread, but it was the very first thing that came to mind when I saw the title.)

[US 89]

The one I found in Minnesota is the east end of MN 19 in Red Wing. MN 19 is going north into US 61, which is basically an east-west route there.

Yeah, that’s about it. I had found that one but got too busy to post it.

What about the US 61/US 63 situation in Red Wing? That always struck me as odd the way US 63 does a U-turn off the bridge to meet US 61.  (I'm not sure if that technically qualifies for this thread, but it was the very first thing that came to mind when I saw the title.)

That's pretty common at locations immediately adjacent to a rail line - in this case there isn't room for US 63 to get down from the river/rail bridge and intersect US 61 at grade (and that big hill to the east probably doesn't help matters, either). Here's a similar example with BL-80 and WYO 530 in Green River, WY.

[debragga]

US 175 and FM-1895 in Kemp TX. US-175 is signed as east-west while facing nearly north-south, and FM-1895 is north-south but is facing nearly east-west.

Overhead view:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.4460954,-96.2218262,17.25z

Signage facing FM-1895 "north":
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.4456055,-96.2224312,3a,45.2y,74.52h,95.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sP-xkM5OS7RZkaVNioEN7mg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[Dirt Roads]

I-40 in eastern NC has three examples of this, given its north-south positioning: at I-85, Future I-87 and I-95. In all three cases, their northbound directions actually run eastbound, and southbound actually goes westbound.

Even stranger is the fact that both I-85 and I-40 are approaching from the southeast (and south-southeast, respectively).  I-85 was originally routed around the north side of Hillsborough (hence the remaining portion of the old section I-85 connecting to US-70 eastbound).  I believe that this topic was also discussed in both MTR and AARoads in the past.  It is now ironic that some 70-odd years after preventing the construction of four-lane bridges over the Eno River, the recent emergency closure of the eastern bridge for US-70 has allowed NCDOT to open up a right-of-way of sufficient width to support a new multilane route to Durham sometime in the future.

[usends]

How many instances can you think of that any numbered highway with a cardinal direction posted with it turns, veers or loops back around to where the traffic is now not facing that cardinal direction and then intersects another highway with the same situation happening.  Confused?  (etc.)

I started another thread on this topic about 10 years ago.  It's funny how we both had to use an abundance of words to introduce the topic and describe the type of configuration we had in mind.  Not an easily-searchable topic.