New Jersey

[74/171FAN]

What's going on with Truck US 1/9 around Jersey City?  I was to be done a while ago, and the latest street view from late last year shows it as complete but blocked off and the street blade covered but turned away from traffic.

Let's chat in Brattleboro.

I will not be at Brattleboro, but I have been wondering about this too.  You can PM me on this if you are allowed to.

[jeffandnicole]

NJDOT is considering a SPUI to replace the partial diamond/cloverleaf interchange at I-295 & NJ 168. The design image is 2 lanes on all ramps at the single point and 1 lane taking off or landing on 295 at each ramp.
 
This would be NJDOTs first full modern SPUI. The NJTA also built one at 33/133 near Interchange 8.

https://www.route168-i-295pic.com/ to view the presentation and slides, and to comment.  You have another week to do so (until July 31).

[NJRoadfan]

NJDOT is a little late to the innovation of a SPUI. Didn't they just refurb that overpass in the past 10 years?

[storm2k]

NJDOT is a little late to the innovation of a SPUI. Didn't they just refurb that overpass in the past 10 years?

The presentation says that the deck was replaced in 2013 but the bridge itself is 65 years old.

[artmalk]

So quite a few years back, NJDOT built a new ramp from 202 North to 80 East.  Supposedly this was to fix the problem of weaving between cars from 202 trying to stay on 80, and cars trying to get over to exit to 287.  It didn't fix the problem.  Is there any way the intergange could be modified to eliminate the problem?

[storm2k]

Here's something that's kinda hyper local, but interesting to me, because it's on a road I drive on basically anytime I leave the house. This sign went up recently:



This is Schley Mountain Rd in Bedminster (turns into Allen Rd when it crosses the border into Bernards Twp). This has been under Somerset County jurisdiction for years at this point, but for whatever reason, the county has never signposted it. There have never been reassurance shields or mileage markers (which always include mini reassurance shields--which, is something Hunterdon County also does). Nor do the street name blades at the intersection with Martinsville-Liberty Corner Rd at the route's eastern end include a county shield. So it's interesting to me that they suddenly put up at least one shield acknowledging that this is CR652. I now wonder if we'll eventually see mileage markers and some reassurance shields in the near future.

[storm2k]

Update! I had a chance to drive to the other end of Allen Rd where it meets Martinsville-Liberty Corner Rd (CR525), and I am pleased to see that not only is there a reassurance shield at the eastern end of Allen Rd heading west, but Somerset County has also put proper directional assemblies on CR525 and the street name blade on the traffic light now has the CR652 shield as well. We'll see if they add more reassurance shields and mile markers as time goes on. Still very surprised that Somerset County suddenly decided the world needed to know this road is a county road.

[roadman65]

I saw on the internet that NJDOT is finally taking measures to tear down the bridge on the West Milford - Kinnelon border that carries Route 23 over the Susquehanna Rail line and ramp to Hamburg Turnpike.


Is that true? Or is it AI snare?

The post shows a temporary structure being installed with music from the Doors playing while in fast motion the work being done.

[NJRoadfan]

NJDOT is replacing the Pequannock River bridge. You can see the temporary bridge on Streetview.

[Dough4872]

https://www.nj.com/news/2025/10/netflix-warns-it-will-be-closing-this-highway-daily-during-a-nj-based-production-shoot.html Netflix is closing Route 133 in East Windsor to film some type of production.

[NJRoadfan]

Engineering analysis behind the Smith St. roadway cracks in Woodbridge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QUn1Xk80vY

[roadman65]

I see NJDOT finally posted signs in Upper Township, Cape May County on US 9 North at Roosevelt Blvd before the dead end created by the closure and the removal of Beesly Point Bridge.  However, the signs say its a Truck Route using Roosevelt and the Parkway and the guide Northbound at Roosevelt says TO US 9 North and not US 9 North.

Also the guide on WB Roosevelt at US 9 now has the former Atlantic City  control city greened out with Beesly Point and still showing US 9 going both ways including North onto the dead end.

I'm also guessing NJ still hasn't gotten AASHTO to remove US 9 from Shore Road and the former Beesly Point Bridge.  The last application I saw was the realignment of US 206 near Netcong when I-80 got constructed over 60 years ago. Even US 322 in Mullica Hill was never applied to AASHTO for realignment to the bypass  nor the Bypass bannered route in Hillsborough for US 206.

[roadman65]

I noticed that on the part of US 322 between the Delaware River and Route 42 at Williamstown has an unsigned concurrency with Gloucester CR 536.  Am I to assume that the county maintains all of the US route between those two points?

Also does Route 536 bypass Mullica Hill on the 322 bypass or  still use the old alignment ( along with the former overlap with Route 45)? 

[storm2k]

I noticed that on the part of US 322 between the Delaware River and Route 42 at Williamstown has an unsigned concurrency with Gloucester CR 536.  Am I to assume that the county maintains all of the US route between those two points?

Also does Route 536 bypass Mullica Hill on the 322 bypass or  still use the old alignment ( along with the former overlap with Route 45)? 

Yes, per the SLD, from MP 8.46 thru 15.91, that's roadway maintained by the county. Didn't realize they had that, last I knew, only 202 north of Morristown was mostly under county control but still signed with the US route.

[roadman65]

I noticed that on the part of US 322 between the Delaware River and Route 42 at Williamstown has an unsigned concurrency with Gloucester CR 536.  Am I to assume that the county maintains all of the US route between those two points?

Also does Route 536 bypass Mullica Hill on the 322 bypass or  still use the old alignment ( along with the former overlap with Route 45)? 

Yes, per the SLD, from MP 8.46 thru 15.91, that's roadway maintained by the county. Didn't realize they had that, last I knew, only 202 north of Morristown was mostly under county control but still signed with the US route.

That explains the un NJDOT mileage sign west of NJ 45.  Plus the poor signage at the Route 45 and US 322 intersection.  On NB Route 45 they dont acknowledge US 322 eastbound and still have the previous US 322 West to NJ Turnpike and Commodore Barry Bridge guide. In addition another 2 guide signs in both directions on NJ 45 that does list NJ 55 and Glassboro is also not a state guide either.

[storm2k]

The other giveaway is that the traffic lights at the 322-45 intersection are not NJDOT standard at all. Also they don't have the NJDOT standard enhanced mile markers along that stretch.

[Dough4872]

I noticed that on the part of US 322 between the Delaware River and Route 42 at Williamstown has an unsigned concurrency with Gloucester CR 536.  Am I to assume that the county maintains all of the US route between those two points?

Also does Route 536 bypass Mullica Hill on the 322 bypass or  still use the old alignment ( along with the former overlap with Route 45)? 

Most of US 322 between the Commodore Barry Bridge and NJ 42 is unsigned CR 536. However, in Mullica Hill CR 536 follows the old alignment of US 322 (now unsigned US 322 Business) while US 322 on the bypass is unsigned CR 536A.

[jeffandnicole]

I believe at one point - pre-GSV - 536 was cosigned with 322 on some signage. Indeed to that point, there is now what's basically a rogue 536 sign on 45 NB at where 322 *used* to be. It appears to have been installed around 2011/2012.  https://maps.app.goo.gl/YQ3UmdMqoq6fNn5XA . And not only is 322 not here anymore, that mast blade sign in the GSV is a recent replacement in-kind.  It should've indicated this as Business 322 (or just left the route number off completely), but they still signed it as regular 322. The small green sign was never updated as well.  This sign showing 45 & 322 as one and the same is incorrect also: https://maps.app.goo.gl/343sgRgGqeEWqMzv5

NJDOT, in my opinion, has gotten sloppy with signage in its southern region, and doesn't take the time to properly reflect updates.

The other giveaway is that the traffic lights at the 322-45 intersection are not NJDOT standard at all. Also they don't have the NJDOT standard enhanced mile markers along that stretch.

The lights there aren't Gloucester County standard either. It's a special design that the township wanted. They also have a similar traffic light setup at 45 and Mullica Hill Road by the Old Mill, along with 45 and Woodland Ave, which I believe are both state installs.

I noticed that on the part of US 322 between the Delaware River and Route 42 at Williamstown has an unsigned concurrency with Gloucester CR 536.  Am I to assume that the county maintains all of the US route between those two points?

Also does Route 536 bypass Mullica Hill on the 322 bypass or  still use the old alignment ( along with the former overlap with Route 45)? 

Yes, per the SLD, from MP 8.46 thru 15.91, that's roadway maintained by the county.

Within that stretch, where 322 intersects with NJ 55, the state still maintains that portion.

[roadman65]

I believe at one point - pre-GSV - 536 was cosigned with 322 on some signage. Indeed to that point, there is now what's basically a rogue 536 sign on 45 NB at where 322 *used* to be. It appears to have been installed around 2011/2012.  https://maps.app.goo.gl/YQ3UmdMqoq6fNn5XA . And not only is 322 not here anymore, that mast blade sign in the GSV is a recent replacement in-kind.  It should've indicated this as Business 322 (or just left the route number off completely), but they still signed it as regular 322. The small green sign was never updated as well.  This sign showing 45 & 322 as one and the same is incorrect also: https://maps.app.goo.gl/343sgRgGqeEWqMzv5

NJDOT, in my opinion, has gotten sloppy with signage in its southern region, and doesn't take the time to properly reflect updates.

The other giveaway is that the traffic lights at the 322-45 intersection are not NJDOT standard at all. Also they don't have the NJDOT standard enhanced mile markers along that stretch.

The lights there aren't Gloucester County standard either. It's a special design that the township wanted. They also have a similar traffic light setup at 45 and Mullica Hill Road by the Old Mill, along with 45 and Woodland Ave, which I believe are both state installs.

I noticed that on the part of US 322 between the Delaware River and Route 42 at Williamstown has an unsigned concurrency with Gloucester CR 536.  Am I to assume that the county maintains all of the US route between those two points?

Also does Route 536 bypass Mullica Hill on the 322 bypass or  still use the old alignment ( along with the former overlap with Route 45)? 

Yes, per the SLD, from MP 8.46 thru 15.91, that's roadway maintained by the county.

Within that stretch, where 322 intersects with NJ 55, the state still maintains that portion.

I believe at one point - pre-GSV - 536 was cosigned with 322 on some signage. Indeed to that point, there is now what's basically a rogue 536 sign on 45 NB at where 322 *used* to be. It appears to have been installed around 2011/2012.  https://maps.app.goo.gl/YQ3UmdMqoq6fNn5XA . And not only is 322 not here anymore, that mast blade sign in the GSV is a recent replacement in-kind.  It should've indicated this as Business 322 (or just left the route number off completely), but they still signed it as regular 322. The small green sign was never updated as well.  This sign showing 45 & 322 as one and the same is incorrect also: https://maps.app.goo.gl/343sgRgGqeEWqMzv5

NJDOT, in my opinion, has gotten sloppy with signage in its southern region, and doesn't take the time to properly reflect updates.

The other giveaway is that the traffic lights at the 322-45 intersection are not NJDOT standard at all. Also they don't have the NJDOT standard enhanced mile markers along that stretch.

The lights there aren't Gloucester County standard either. It's a special design that the township wanted. They also have a similar traffic light setup at 45 and Mullica Hill Road by the Old Mill, along with 45 and Woodland Ave, which I believe are both state installs.

I noticed that on the part of US 322 between the Delaware River and Route 42 at Williamstown has an unsigned concurrency with Gloucester CR 536.  Am I to assume that the county maintains all of the US route between those two points?

Also does Route 536 bypass Mullica Hill on the 322 bypass or  still use the old alignment ( along with the former overlap with Route 45)? 

Yes, per the SLD, from MP 8.46 thru 15.91, that's roadway maintained by the county.

Within that stretch, where 322 intersects with NJ 55, the state still maintains that portion.

The small green sign on NB Route 45 at Mullica Hill Road should be changed to "TO" US 322 as it is a shortcut to EB 322 from 45 NB.

I have to check my January photos I took, when there, to see if that lone CR 536 shield was there then.

As far as those traffic lights in Mullica Hill go, I think they are very cool. Glad the township voted to use them.  Florida has those mast arms around Orlando and the former Reedy Creek Improvement District chose them for Disney.

As far as South Jersey and sign replacements go, they need shields for US 40 on Route 45 NB as driving it in January I didnt realize it was the junction for US 40 until I crossed into the intersection.  Also the 45/130 split in Westville lacks signage for both 45 and 130 and if you're traveling US 130 SB you will be confused as to which way to go to continue.

As I mentioned previously the state finally gotten around to installing a " TO US 9 NORTH " shield on US 9 in Upper Township at Roosevelt Blvd to inform motorists that Beesly Point Bridge is closed and to turn there after over two decades of the bridge being closed.

[storm2k]

NJDOT posted a Virtual Public Information Center notice to their website about some big changes coming to Routes 22 and 202-206 in the area of the Bridgewater Commons Mall. Some of the work they want to do includes consolidation of driveways along the Somerville/Bridgewater stretch of 22, extending auxiliary lanes, improving sidewalks, adding a traffic light on North Bridge St at the Grove St overpass. On 202-206, there are some big changes planned, including reconfiguration of the Commons Way interchange, which is going to be needed, because the cornerstone of this project seems to be adding a ramp from 202-206 NB to 287 SB, so that traffic heading from the circle or the mall doesn't need to get onto 22 to reach 287 SB. My guess is that they will eliminate the ramp from Commons Way NB to 202-206 NB  (they mention reconfiguring the other ramp to allow left turns to get on 202-206 NB so that makes sense), and then they can also eliminate the old ramp to Woodlawn Ave that hasn't been used since the mall and Commons Way were built in '87, and curve this new ramp onto 287 right behind the Best Buy there.

There is a project website but it's not up yet. Looking forward to seeing some designs and specs.

All of this is in addition to the previously announced work to redo a bunch of overpasses and ramps at the 22/202-206 interchange, including widening the northbound 202-206 overpass over 22 and replacing the southbound one (which is from 1949 and showing its age badly). That project also likely means the end of these sign structures installed when the 202-206 NB overpass was built and the roadway reconfigured in that area, as well as this structure that was installed when the 202 overpass was built over the circle in 1994.

These are some big changes on the way to an area that I drive in several times a week, so I'm excited to see this all come to fruition in the next couple of years hopefully.

[roadman65]

Why is the connector from NJ 48 to US 40 closed until 2027?

It's not. This is bad data being fed into Google Maps. The intersection was redone to add a traffic light and jughandles. The access is still there between 48 and 40, but on a permanently different alignment.

Amazon opened a facility at that intersection.  I'm sure that was a big part of the reconfiguration.

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/mQXyLHkGsqcXdViw8

Is this the first phase of the proposed New Road that is to be a future truck route to reduce congestion on nearby Tonelle Avenue?

[chrisg69911]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/mQXyLHkGsqcXdViw8

Is this the first phase of the proposed New Road that is to be a future truck route to reduce congestion on nearby Tonelle Avenue?

Yup, here is where the most recent contract is working. Last time I checked it out a few months ago, they already had a new truss bridge for the single tracked part of the wye and more bridge pieces laying about everywhere. For some reason Maps took away the road between Van Buren and St Pauls when that still exists to serve the house and business on that street. I would also love to know how they're planning to go through the Norfolk Southern yard

[storm2k]

NJDOT posted a Virtual Public Information Center notice to their website about some big changes coming to Routes 22 and 202-206 in the area of the Bridgewater Commons Mall. Some of the work they want to do includes consolidation of driveways along the Somerville/Bridgewater stretch of 22, extending auxiliary lanes, improving sidewalks, adding a traffic light on North Bridge St at the Grove St overpass. On 202-206, there are some big changes planned, including reconfiguration of the Commons Way interchange, which is going to be needed, because the cornerstone of this project seems to be adding a ramp from 202-206 NB to 287 SB, so that traffic heading from the circle or the mall doesn't need to get onto 22 to reach 287 SB. My guess is that they will eliminate the ramp from Commons Way NB to 202-206 NB  (they mention reconfiguring the other ramp to allow left turns to get on 202-206 NB so that makes sense), and then they can also eliminate the old ramp to Woodlawn Ave that hasn't been used since the mall and Commons Way were built in '87, and curve this new ramp onto 287 right behind the Best Buy there.

There is a project website but it's not up yet. Looking forward to seeing some designs and specs.

All of this is in addition to the previously announced work to redo a bunch of overpasses and ramps at the 22/202-206 interchange, including widening the northbound 202-206 overpass over 22 and replacing the southbound one (which is from 1949 and showing its age badly). That project also likely means the end of these sign structures installed when the 202-206 NB overpass was built and the roadway reconfigured in that area, as well as this structure that was installed when the 202 overpass was built over the circle in 1994.

These are some big changes on the way to an area that I drive in several times a week, so I'm excited to see this all come to fruition in the next couple of years hopefully.

The project website is up. I was correct about the ramp from 202-206 to 287. Can't zoom in closely enough on some of the changes on 22 in terms of how they want to consolidate some of the driveways, but a lot of it seems to really be extending acceleration lanes. Not pictured on the plans is the work they want to do on the overpasses at the 22/202-206 interchange, which is under a completely different project for now.

[roadman65]

What are current cash rates for Port Authority Crossings between NJ and NY?

I ask cause a photo on social media says it went over $20. Don't want to a share article if it turns out AI and have moderator Rothman chastise me if it is.