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vdeane

Quote from: webny99 on April 13, 2026, 10:59:06 AMThe good:
-Addition of Buffalo Rd to most* Exit 7 signage in both directions.
-Removal of the EB I-490 pull-through at Exit 7B.
-Addition of Airport/Greece to the second advance signs for Exit 9.
-The replacement of this disaster being included in the project.
I'm also excited for the inclusion of exit tabs for exit 8 on the WB APLs.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.


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vdeane

What is it with Region 4 and exit gore signs getting bad replacements?  First we had the one with the missing suffix and bad font, then the one with no number at all, and now we have another with no number at all on I-590 north at I-490 (should say exit 5; honestly, at this point fully half the signs for that exit have no number and the APL has the tab positioned in an odd enough way that it feels like an afterthought, as if Region 4 isn't always aware that this exit has a number).  Between this, the weird leftover signage from when the Irondequoit Bay Bridge was weight restricted, and the gradual disappearance of not just tenth mile markers, but mile markers period (and inconsistent way they've been addressed in projects), I'm starting to think Region 4 might be in the same league as Regions 7 and 9 in terms of signage quality.  Maybe even worse.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

webny99

Quote from: vdeane on May 15, 2026, 10:55:10 PMnow we have another with no number at all on I-590 north at I-490 (should say exit 5;

Which one is that? The new APL at the gore point has an Exit 5 tab, and I wasn't aware of any others being replaced.

vdeane

Quote from: webny99 on May 16, 2026, 05:50:30 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 15, 2026, 10:55:10 PMnow we have another with no number at all on I-590 north at I-490 (should say exit 5;

Which one is that? The new APL at the gore point has an Exit 5 tab, and I wasn't aware of any others being replaced.
The exit gore sign itself.  This beautiful sign is gone.  It now looks like this one.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

webny99

Quote from: vdeane on May 16, 2026, 09:08:32 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 16, 2026, 05:50:30 PMWhich one is that? The new APL at the gore point has an Exit 5 tab, and I wasn't aware of any others being replaced.
The exit gore sign itself.  This beautiful sign is gone.  It now looks like this one.

Ah, got it. Hadn't noticed that yet but that is unfortunate.

baugh17

Replace in kind, perhaps, until R4 gets into the exit renumbering game?

Quote from: vdeane on May 16, 2026, 09:08:32 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 16, 2026, 05:50:30 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 15, 2026, 10:55:10 PMnow we have another with no number at all on I-590 north at I-490 (should say exit 5;

Which one is that? The new APL at the gore point has an Exit 5 tab, and I wasn't aware of any others being replaced.
The exit gore sign itself.  This beautiful sign is gone.  It now looks like this one.

vdeane

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Quote from: baugh17 on May 17, 2026, 08:40:03 AMReplace in kind, perhaps, until R4 gets into the exit renumbering game?
What's odd is that these gore signs have no place for a number.  It looks like they just decided to save money by buying a bunch of numberless blanks for the maintenance residencies to put up as spot replacements and not worry about exit numbers.  They'd likely continue appearing even after a hypothetical conversion.

Such also doesn't explain the inconsistencies with mile markers.  One of the I-390 projects and the I-490 Gateway project are the last instances I can think of the traditional tenth mile markers being installed.  Since then, it's been unpredictable.  The I-390/I-490 interchange has enhanced tenths the whole way, but those are the only new tenth mile markers that have been installed at all.  A couple of the I-390 projects have used enhanced full markers but no tenths, and every other project seems to include nothing at all, not even markers for the full miles.  I-590/NY 590 is the only road left with consistent tenths, and any kind of distance marker has gotten scarce on the eastern part of I-490 (and is also absent on a part of I-390).

It's also worth noting that the exit gore sign for I-490 exit 28 has been missing for close to 20 years!
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

roadman65

Are there any plans to redo the current US 9W and NY 32 junction in Kingston?

Considering there is a stub on the south side of Route 32 and green space north of NY 32, they could at least realign US 9W to be one continuous route instead of the wrong way concurrency with Route 32 making a full diamond or flatten out the stubs and make an at grade four way intersection.
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cockroachking

Quote from: roadman65 on Today at 09:40:50 AMAre there any plans to redo the current US 9W and NY 32 junction in Kingston?

Considering there is a stub on the south side of Route 32 and green space north of NY 32, they could at least realign US 9W to be one continuous route instead of the wrong way concurrency with Route 32 making a full diamond or flatten out the stubs and make an at grade four way intersection.
Region 8 has more important things to deal with rather than tearing down houses to fix a non-issue.

(personal opinion)

roadman65

#7610
Quote from: cockroachking on Today at 10:10:52 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on Today at 09:40:50 AMAre there any plans to redo the current US 9W and NY 32 junction in Kingston?

Considering there is a stub on the south side of Route 32 and green space north of NY 32, they could at least realign US 9W to be one continuous route instead of the wrong way concurrency with Route 32 making a full diamond or flatten out the stubs and make an at grade four way intersection.
Region 8 has more important things to deal with rather than tearing down houses to fix a non-issue.

(personal opinion)

Actually to realign the US 9W and Rt 32 intersection won't require any houses to be torn as there is a green space for a new road between Koening Blvd and Chester Street.

However the city is exploring options to reconnect both sides of US 9W in the Downtown area.  One is to reduce the four lane highway to two lanes and add bike lanes and a sidewalk to make it easier to cross US 9W on foot at grade.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

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cockroachking

Quote from: roadman65 on Today at 10:41:49 AM
Quote from: cockroachking on Today at 10:10:52 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on Today at 09:40:50 AMAre there any plans to redo the current US 9W and NY 32 junction in Kingston?

Considering there is a stub on the south side of Route 32 and green space north of NY 32, they could at least realign US 9W to be one continuous route instead of the wrong way concurrency with Route 32 making a full diamond or flatten out the stubs and make an at grade four way intersection.
Region 8 has more important things to deal with rather than tearing down houses to fix a non-issue.

(personal opinion)

Actually to realign the US 9W and Rt 32 intersection won't require any houses to be torn as there is a green space for a new road between Koening Blvd and Chester Street.

However the city is exploring options to reconnect both sides of US 9W in the Downtown area.  One is to reduce the four lane highway to two lanes and add bike lanes and a sidewalk to make it easier to cross US 9W on foot at grade.

Okay fine, you can tie back into US-9W by only demolishing a business and a Ulster County DPW maintenance facility. Let me amend my statement.

Region 8 has more important things to deal with rather than tearing down houses, businesses, and public works facilities to fix a non-issue.

(personal opinion)